Death Penalty
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Right or Wrong? ( Except for n00bs , they shall all be put to death)
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RetardedPanda wrote:
That includes u then 👆. Bring it back! Extreme crimes should bear death, fcuk the human rights, animals don't deserve them!Right or Wrong? ( Except for n00bs , they shall all be put to death)
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Wrong. Karma will short itself out in the world. We do not need to alter it. Spiritual view out of the way. It has happened a couple of times in the past where they given some the death penalty, killed them, then discovered they were actually innocent. It still happens today but without the death of course. People still get called guilty then a year or so later they find out they were actually innocent
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Superyan wrote:
I disagree, for every innocent person wrongly accused of a crime there are definitely ten guilty people who get off to easily or don't even get persecuted. If there is too be "Karma" in this world it must be man-made.Wrong. Karma will short itself out in the world. We do not need to alter it. Spiritual view out of the way. It has happened a couple of times in the past where they given some the death penalty, killed them, then discovered they were actually innocent. It still happens today but without the death of course. People still get called guilty then a year or so later they find out they were actually innocent
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Superyan wrote:
I'm a believer of karma. But u know what, honestly speaking it doesn't always happen that way. U look at countries that still hold the death penalty and compare to lenient western countries. Over populated prisons, murderers n rapists walking free, the system is too far up it's own arse to see the shit it's causing on the outside.Wrong. Karma will short itself out in the world. We do not need to alter it. Spiritual view out of the way. It has happened a couple of times in the past where they given some the death penalty, killed them, then discovered they were actually innocent. It still happens today but without the death of course. People still get called guilty then a year or so later they find out they were actually innocent
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There needs to be a way to deal with too many people in jail and the cost... Hard to know if death is the answer but something needs to be done.
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Death penalty is an easy way out for real criminals.
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Superyan wrote:
People still get called guilty then a year or so later they find out they were actually innocent
Normally people stay on death row for a while. -
Right. If someone takes someone's life, there life should be taken too. It even says in the bible. Inb4lolurachristian
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They should all be publicly humiliated at the very least!
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Marky G wrote:
Why? U think serial killers, rapists and pedophiles have a conscience or humility? It makes no difference, if anything they'd fees off it with even more hate.They should all be publicly humiliated at the very least!
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Difficult question. Any time someone gets murdered the murderer doesn't just kill one person. They kill a part of every person that cared for the victim.
In tribal cultures reparations are made. It won't replace the lost lived one but perhaps that on top of a prison sentence may be the answer. Who knows.
I don't like the idea that 10% (using vadans figures here - not sure how accurate) of state sponsored deaths are innocent. That is too high. An innocent life should be protected at all costs.
But, should a person innocent of a murder they have been found guilty of be sentenced to death to 'right the wrong' of the other murders they committed but were not found guilty for? That I think is a true karma question.
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* lost loved one
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BlindLuck🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
Right. If someone takes someone's life, there life should be taken too. It even says in the bible. Inb4lolurachristian
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I didn't state any stats rb.
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CRIM⇪NAL wrote:
Exactly, let them suffer in prisonDeath penalty is an easy way out for real criminals.
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Superyan wrote:
Wrong. Karma will short itself out in the world. We do not need to alter it. Spiritual view out of the way. It has happened a couple of times in the past where they given some the death penalty, killed them, then discovered they were actually innocent. It still happens today but without the death of course. People still get called guilty then a year or so later they find out they were actually innocent
Some peoples children, let's let karma sort out the rapeists and killers of the world, you super yan should not be allowed to reproduce , it would help to stop the spread the lack of brains you suffer from.
Oh geeze is karma going to straighten me out for that? -
VADAN wrote:
Soz. You're right. I meant jackal. I stand corrected!!I didn't state any stats rb.
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A life sentence for murder should mean that. prison is not a deterrent, they get tele, play stations etc etc, they should be locked up and the key thrown away. Instead they get the tele etc and with good behaviour r out in 9 years or so, when the person they killed has gone and his or her families entire lives utterly ruined. There is absolutely no justice in that and it's one reason why this world is so messed up. Takes breath n finished
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Mr.Marbles wrote:
Luckily for you. Chemo has a high chance of making me infertile so you probably have your wish there. So don't insult me with that, Child. Moving on, we also need to consider the people who came out after murder and completely changed their lives around. Becoming good peopleSome peoples children, let's let karma sort out the rapeists and killers of the world, you super yan should not be allowed to reproduce , it would help to stop the spread the lack of brains you suffer from.
Oh geeze is karma going to straighten me out for that? -
GRANE wrote:
Sorry Grane, when it's a fact that many prisoners have free access cable and are gauranteed 3 squares a day while families are scraping by and paying higher and higher taxes to support these practices I disagree with giving these nice long sentences. When the gov't does what they should do and give them nice (maybe) painted cinderblock walls and a bucket to relieve themselves in that gets cleaned once a day then maybe I'll change my mind.CRIM⇪NAL wrote:
Exactly, let them suffer in prisonDeath penalty is an easy way out for real criminals.
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Superyan wrote:
If they committed a murder then they domt deserve the chance to become good citizens. I'm a strong believer in consequences. something our society seems to have lost.Mr.Marbles wrote:
Luckily for you. Chemo has a high chance of making me infertile so you probably have your wish there. So don't insult me with that, Child. Moving on, we also need to consider the people who came out after murder and completely changed their lives around. Becoming good peopleSome peoples children, let's let karma sort out the rapeists and killers of the world, you super yan should not be allowed to reproduce , it would help to stop the spread the lack of brains you suffer from.
Oh geeze is karma going to straighten me out for that? -
I know at least in America we've given life in prison for tax evasion. IMO something is horribly wrong when ripping off the government is worse an offense then rape
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Life for a life kill and be killed if you rape you should possibly be killed but the minimum you would have your balls removed
And fuk karma I make my own karma the problem is theres too many pussy doo-gooders in England to make it happen again we have the easiest prisons on earth there like a big youthclub easy as fuck
Back in the day they were tough but now prisoners have rights all of a sudden
I say fuck karma
Fuck human rights chanting anti war faggots
And fight violent offenders with violence (kick the shit out of them)And for doo-gooders who say violence sorts out nothing your wrong it fixes everything
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Dw the world will end sooner or later. Suns acting up, ppl are getting crazier, we'll all die eventually. Hopefully soon cuz I don't wanna be all old n moldy 😜
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randombloke wrote:
Yeah I was just making an uneducated guess. No real stats in my statement.VADAN wrote:
Soz. You're right. I meant jackal. I stand corrected!!I didn't state any stats rb.
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Primo Loco wrote:
Old and moody.. U can tick 1 off then primo 😜. It's all well n good we sitting here n saying death penalty is right, whilst I'd be fore this it's not as easy as it sounds. The implications of such action would create ripples that'd damage a country far greater than just criminality. U have to consider, peace treaties as an example. Human rights as much as I think is mostly political bullshit, there's consequences not just for criminals but for all of us. It's not something we can switch on n off. However, the UK system has failed many years ago. We ended up cleanig shit in others backyards n forgot about ours. Now we all suffer for the idiocy of our leaders.Dw the world will end sooner or later. Suns acting up, ppl are getting crazier, we'll all die eventually. Hopefully soon cuz I don't wanna be all old n moldy 😜
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"It's definitely a penalty; ain't no fuckin' gift; life's too damn short."
Prison serves up to 4 purposes. There is deterrance, punishment, separation from society, and rehabilitation.
The death penalty only provides separation. It's a poor punishment, (sleep peacefully into death, and therefore is also a poor deterrent), and has rehabilitated nobody.
So if your goal is only to separate from society, I think killing them costs more than keeping them locked up without so many appeals. So why not just give them hard labor, which can do all 4 functions pretty well?
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Actually brown I'd strongly disagree. Look at the middle east. Death is a penalty you can face for severe crimes. What are their crime rates for murders, rapes, peadophilia...? Hell, what are their rates for petty crimes? Fuck all compared to USA n UK, doesn't come close. Death penalty deters = most definitely.
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
I'm totally with you on that score Bellyal!I know at least in America we've given life in prison for tax evasion. IMO something is horribly wrong when ripping off the government is worse an offense then rape
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VADAN wrote:
In some cases, the death penalty is a deterrent.Actually brown I'd strongly disagree. Look at the middle east. Death is a penalty you can face for severe crimes. What are their crime rates for murders, rapes, peadophilia...? Hell, what are their rates for petty crimes? Fuck all compared to USA n UK, doesn't come close. Death penalty deters = most definitely.
But in these countries you speak of, do they sing you peacefully to sleep, or do they lop off your hands with a hot knife and rape your daughter in front of you as eye-for-an-eye punishment before you die painfully?
Deterrence by death penalty requires fear of death. Many people that are brought to commit violent crimes worthy of the death penalty don't give a crap, especially when pain is not allowed.
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