Death Penalty
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A man convicted under sharia law (probably Spelt wrong!) of blinding someone with acid has been sentenced to exactly the same punishment very recently. I for one used to believe strongly in the death penalty or chemical castration but tbh I don't think it is right to blind someone even If they carried out a similar crime. By executing or maiming people you are saying reform is impossible so there should be no prisons at all.
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THΞ JΛCK/\L wrote:
Here hereSuperyan wrote:
I disagree, for every innocent person wrongly accused of a crime there are definitely ten guilty people who get off to easily or don't even get persecuted. If there is too be "Karma" in this world it must be man-made.Wrong. Karma will short itself out in the world. We do not need to alter it. Spiritual view out of the way. It has happened a couple of times in the past where they given some the death penalty, killed them, then discovered they were actually innocent. It still happens today but without the death of course. People still get called guilty then a year or so later they find out they were actually innocent
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Wrong. But only because it's an easy way out. They can't pay for what they did if they're dead.
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Peepers wrote:
But we also aren't paying for them.Wrong. But only because it's an easy way out. They can't pay for what they did if they're dead.
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
Very expensive in most states to kill someone.Peepers wrote:
But we also aren't paying for them.Wrong. But only because it's an easy way out. They can't pay for what they did if they're dead.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
When it comes to housing and guarding prisoners you're always going to come out behind in funds when alls said and done. One $1 bullet to the the head no appeals. There problem solved."It's definitely a penalty; ain't no fuckin' gift; life's too damn short."
Prison serves up to 4 purposes. There is deterrance, punishment, separation from society, and rehabilitation.
The death penalty only provides separation. It's a poor punishment, (sleep peacefully into death, and therefore is also a poor deterrent), and has rehabilitated nobody.
So if your goal is only to separate from society, I think killing them costs more than keeping them locked up without so many appeals. So why not just give them hard labor, which can do all 4 functions pretty well?
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
Only because of appeals and methods. As I said above a chep bullet and no appeals would do the trick.GOD~of~WAR wrote:
Very expensive in most states to kill someone.Peepers wrote:
But we also aren't paying for them.Wrong. But only because it's an easy way out. They can't pay for what they did if they're dead.
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You'll always have criminals & no one person's sense of moral justice is sufficient since we have a different standards. Not sure the death penalty is right but it does bring some relieve to some of the victims &/or family.
To me, it's funny how we just lay blame to the 'criminal' or the severity of the crime but easily forget that so much lies with the family that they(all of us) come from. Mankind just loves dealing with the fruit & not the root of all issues and we wonder why we keep debating about the means.
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Do you not see the hypocrisy in killing people who kill people to show them that killing people is wrong?
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Primo wrote:
Do you not see the hypocrisy in killing people who kill people to show them that killing people is wrong?
It's show people that bad things happen to bad people
To all the people who have ever stole anything
Who would of still stolen if the punishment for being caught was to have a finger or hand cut off
Most people would be scared
These days there's no consequences
If I kill you I go to court claim insanity plead guilty to manslaughter get 5 yrs get out on tag in 2 people don't give a shit as nothing serious happens to you
It's why people dobt respect coppers because they don't get a slap of them like the old days -
Gladiators
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The death penalty is sometime good for society and if a criminal kills a ton of people then he shouldn't be able to kill more if he escapes prison or something.
If you kill someone period you can go burn in he'll for eternity -
For. I say line em up and make a day out of it.
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I think if we're going to kill killers, we need to bring back public executions and stoning. and the jurors and prosecutors and family members can be given a bunch of rocks and do their thing. at close spattering range. the blood and tissue should be on the hands (and also faces, dribbling) of those seeking justice and the peers that issue the sentence. otherwise i see it as "trading crime for crime." If I were looking at a life sentence, no parole, in a system where you're kept alive until you're killed, I would probably do the deed myself. as escapism is always a quick fix to endless imprisonment.
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There's obviously some strong opinions here, and I'm no expert on what's right and wrong, but a very close family friend was stabbed 15 times to his death by his crazy ex. 10 years later and she's now walking around my home town acting like she's done nothing wrong. In my opinion she should be six feet under, the same as my friend is. Everyone that knew him was affected by what she did!!! why should she still have a life!! Why should she be given a house by our government, while I have the memory of finding my friend laying in his own blood!!! There's no justice in this country!!!!
Sorry for ranting!
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🐱 mama tek wrote:
Pass me some rocks!!I think if we're going to kill killers, we need to bring back public executions and stoning. and the jurors and prosecutors and family members can be given a bunch of rocks and do their thing. at close spattering range. the blood and tissue should be on the hands (and also faces, dribbling) of those seeking justice and the peers that issue the sentence. otherwise i see it as "trading crime for crime." If I were looking at a life sentence, no parole, in a system where you're kept alive until you're killed, I would probably do the deed myself. as escapism is always a quick fix to endless imprisonment.
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🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
Your boy Hobbes had the right idea... A society requires us to give up the function of justice to the governors. Emotion should not be involved with justice. This is society's great agreement. Pain blinds us to true justice.There's obviously some strong opinions here, and I'm no expert on what's right and wrong, but a very close family friend was stabbed 15 times to his death by his crazy ex. 10 years later and she's now walking around my home town acting like she's done nothing wrong. In my opinion she should be six feet under, the same as my friend is. Everyone that knew him was affected by what she did!!! why should she still have a life!! Why should she be given a house by our government, while I have the memory of finding my friend laying in his own blood!!! There's no justice in this country!!!!
Sorry for ranting!
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There is no justice in a situation like that brown. Problem is our society view criminals as victims. There is no such thing as rehabilitation. And even if there were the benefit to society would be too small to justify it. Rewarding criminals as was described above is just purely disgusting
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If we switched the system to concentrate more on the victims and giving them justice the system would work a whole lot better
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Your boy Hobbes had the right idea... A society requires us to give up the function of justice to the governors. Emotion should not be involved with justice. This is society's great agreement. Pain blinds us to true justice.
10 years for a life, where's the true justice!! For that ten years she had a tv, games consoles, food, drink all paid for by us tax payers, and now she's out she's been given a house and claims more money from the tax payer. There is NO justice in this country!!
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🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
agreed. Society has basically provided an inventive for murderYour boy Hobbes had the right idea... A society requires us to give up the function of justice to the governors. Emotion should not be involved with justice. This is society's great agreement. Pain blinds us to true justice.
10 years for a life, where's the true justice!! For that ten years she had a tv, games consoles, food, drink all paid for by us tax payers, and now she's out she's been given a house and claims more money from the tax payer. There is NO justice in this country!!
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
Problem is, mob justice tends to convict the innocent, and this is intolerable to us as a people. We have to balance the risk/benefit. This means that evil will sometimes go unpunished, but we will minimize punishing the innocent. The system is not perfect, but I think it's the best we can do, given our own imperfection. I see no need to adjust anything, except maybe excessive legislation and too much incarceration for non-violent crimes.There is no justice in a situation like that brown. Problem is our society view criminals as victims. There is no such thing as rehabilitation. And even if there were the benefit to society would be too small to justify it. Rewarding criminals as was described above is just purely disgusting
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Exactly! Who pays for these criminals to be rehabilitated? Who suffers from their crimes? Who suffer from their reoffending? We will. We work hard, we struggle through life, we give half our salaries to government and for what? Create a nation with a broken justice system? Claiming to fight against terrorism is all well n good, going after the likes of Saddam n Gadaffi, great, mass murderers seeing justice, but what about the civil terrorism we face everyday? A life for a life.
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Agreed Vadan. Imo its actually worse to let a guilty person off than to punish an innocent person. Letting the guilty off shows a weal society
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Like I said more consideration should be given to victims and theory families. Criminals don't deserve consideration
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
👍Like I said more consideration should be given to victims and theory families. Criminals don't deserve consideration
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VADAN wrote:
👍Exactly! Who pays for these criminals to be rehabilitated? Who suffers from their crimes? Who suffer from their reoffending? We will. We work hard, we struggle through life, we give half our salaries to government and for what? Create a nation with a broken justice system? Claiming to fight against terrorism is all well n good, going after the likes of Saddam n Gadaffi, great, mass murderers seeing justice, but what about the civil terrorism we face everyday? A life for a life.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
Nailed it.GOD~of~WAR wrote:
Problem is, mob justice tends to convict the innocent, and this is intolerable to us as a people. We have to balance the risk/benefit. This means that evil will sometimes go unpunished, but we will minimize punishing the innocent. The system is not perfect, but I think it's the best we can do, given our own imperfection. I see no need to adjust anything, except maybe excessive legislation and too much incarceration for non-violent crimes.There is no justice in a situation like that brown. Problem is our society view criminals as victims. There is no such thing as rehabilitation. And even if there were the benefit to society would be too small to justify it. Rewarding criminals as was described above is just purely disgusting
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Maybe I should murder her, then I'll be looked after for ten years!!
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You may even get a free house and never have to work again
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