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🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
I didn't celebrate bin laden dying. I am sorry that your friend died, and there is no way to replace him. Never will be. But the cycle of violence should not continue on in the name of justice. Justice and revenge are not the same thing, and yes to a certain extent, you are never going to "feel" like justice has been done. So I understand the emotions behind your posts, but I feel like your time and energy would be better spent showing how you can overcome in spite of the loss instead of trying to right a wrong that can never fully be rightedWere more than willing to go to another country and kill saying it's for the greater good, people cheered when bin laden was killed!! But when it comes to murderers in their own country people feel too much compassion and think they have a right live and to change, when they've taken that right from someone else.
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It remains the fact that it is legal in places around the world, put in place by peers of that place, and it's there for a reason!!
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🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
Don't get me wrong... I'm not against the death penalty, or even how other societies deal with it.The opposing argument seems very circular!!
What about the countries/states where death penalty is in place?? Do they have it right?? It is their peers that have made death penalty legal afterall!!
But I strongly agree with how we do it here, and why we do not apply emotion to justice, as much as possible, anyway.
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Thank God and NOT God of War that we live in democracy and not an autocracy Bourne out of belials simple mind. B seriously u compare people to cars?? If you were a car I would park you on a box junction so u got towed and eventually crushed! If your head gasket goes you replace it in the same way you might a kidney with dialysis or a transplant. If however the engine isn't firing on all cylinders you get the timing sorted. Think about it you fucking arse!
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
Fair enough! 😺🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
Don't get me wrong... I'm not against the death penalty, or even how other societies deal with it.The opposing argument seems very circular!!
What about the countries/states where death penalty is in place?? Do they have it right?? It is their peers that have made death penalty legal afterall!!
But I strongly agree with how we do it here, and why we do not apply emotion to justice, as much as possible, anyway.
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Rehabilitation OS not justice. That person hast really paid for their crimes
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And lol brit you agreed with me yesterday and now attack me today. I have my own philosophy. I despise all forms of violent time
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
Because I'm sure it's easy for someone who truly has changed to live with the guilt of ruining someone else's lifeRehabilitation OS not justice. That person hast really paid for their crimes
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🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
And it's legal in some places to stone a woman for not covering her hair, put in place by peers, for a reason. The existence of a situation doesn't make the situation rightIt remains the fact that it is legal in places around the world, put in place by peers of that place, and it's there for a reason!!
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bee ryan wrote:
Living with guilt is not enough!! Justice is just a matter of opinion!! But I'll shut up now, I've had my say!! ✌GOD~of~WAR wrote:
Because I'm sure it's easy for someone who truly has changed to live with the guilt of ruining someone else's lifeRehabilitation OS not justice. That person hast really paid for their crimes
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bee ryan wrote:
not everyone feels remorseGOD~of~WAR wrote:
Because I'm sure it's easy for someone who truly has changed to live with the guilt of ruining someone else's lifeRehabilmitation OS not justice. That person hast really paid for their crimes
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bee ryan wrote:
Or wrong!! But seriously I'm done with this thread now!🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
And it's legal in some places to stone a woman for not covering her hair, put in place by peers, for a reason. The existence of a situation doesn't make the situation rightIt remains the fact that it is legal in places around the world, put in place by peers of that place, and it's there for a reason!!
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See you are assuming conscience is an innate instinct. It's more like learned behavior. Not everyone has one
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An eye for an eye if the criminal in question kills a person he/she should be given the noose
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I'm a big believer in the phrase: "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
We become as bad as the killer when we execute them. So you kill a man who's murdered another. What do you gain except revenge?
And revenge is NOT justice. So your neighbor hits your car with his pickup. Justice would be to file an insurance claim and have his rates raised or license revoked. You discourage that behavior.
Revenge is going and beating the shit out of his pickup. What does that solve? -
🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
Note: I'm not against the death of a mass murderer or someone like bin laden. That is defending the people. But my point is an impartial jury voting gives everybody equality and a chance to prove themselves.Brown🎵Note wrote:
Fair enough! 😺🇬🇧👊RAGINGBULL👊🇬🇧 wrote:
Don't get me wrong... I'm not against the death penalty, or even how other societies deal with it.The opposing argument seems very circular!!
What about the countries/states where death penalty is in place?? Do they have it right?? It is their peers that have made death penalty legal afterall!!
But I strongly agree with how we do it here, and why we do not apply emotion to justice, as much as possible, anyway.
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
That statement only works for the worst crimes if u truly believe in capital punishment. If u smack your child for stealing is that not enough? Should they be put in the stocks or sent to join a colony so the victim gets closure? Your attitude is one of a bitter victim in life, if u don't believe in reform then run for office but I'm pretty sure it would be an empty one in your case!Rehabilitation OS not justice. That person hast really paid for their crimes
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GOD~of~WAR wrote:
People have them but they need to be taught some basic life skills sometimes. When a person grows up in a world where killing is survival it's what they do, their basic animal instinct. There is no place for that in common society but should we kill these people or deal with the roots of the problem in a civilised way?See you are assuming conscience is an innate instinct. It's more like learned behavior. Not everyone has one
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BRITFURY™ wrote:
I said earlier murderGOD~of~WAR wrote:
That statement only works for the worst crimes if u truly believe in capital punishment. If u smack your child for stealing is that not enough? Should they be put in the stocks or sent to join a colony so the victim gets closure? Your attitude is one of a bitter victim in life, if u don't believe in reform then run for office but I'm pretty sure it would be an empty one in your case!Rehabilitation OS not justice. That person hast really paid for their crimes
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I don't believe in total punishment for all crimes. I have some perspective. And no never really been a victim
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If we executed a killer's family, or at least one random person, or issued a rape warrant on a random woman, THEN that would make us as bad as the killer. Take into consideration how that many criminals have been through the whole justice system several times, and are still as likely to commit horrible crimes that will either take lives or worse. Not all, but many.
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@ "We become as bad as the killer when we execute them. So you kill a man who's murdered another. What do you gain except revenge?"
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I think that the death penalty is great for a threat but is very barbaric in nature, it is also unsettling how easily an inesent man can be put to death.
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