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Starting a prayer group. Anyone who needs prayers, is looking for someone to pray for, or wants to talk about their problems, post here or PM me. Everyone is invited, even atheists if they don't have anything mean or unreasonable to say. You don't even need to talk about religion, only if you want to.
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At 13 religion is a tricky thing for me I haven't made up my mind, I do not want to say I am an atheist yet I feel odd talking to something that I can't see when I pray, life is fucked up at puberty stages!!!
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Сюмшдиdэя. Рщи wrote:
Amen to that. I'm fifteen, and it's even worse since I was thirteen. I've questioned my faith multiple times before. Faith is the only reason there are Christians. There is no real way to prove God is real.At 13 religion is a tricky thing for me I haven't made up my mind, I do not want to say I am an atheist yet I feel odd talking to something that I can't see when I pray, life is fucked up at puberty stages!!!
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YOU wrote:
I will always try to reply to comments. If I didn't comment, try again, or wait, I probably didn't see it yet.Starting a prayer group. Anyone who needs prayers, is looking for someone to pray for, or wants to talk about their problems, post here or PM me. Everyone is invited, even atheists if they don't have anything mean or unreasonable to say. You don't even need to talk about religion, only if you want to.
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frostbite135 wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa...How can you prove God is NOT real? Answer that question before you start saying "There is no real way to prove God is real".Сюмшдиdэя. Рщи wrote:
Amen to that. I'm fifteen, and it's even worse since I was thirteen. I've questioned my faith multiple times before. Faith is the only reason there are Christians. There is no real way to prove God is real.At 13 religion is a tricky thing for me I haven't made up my mind, I do not want to say I am an atheist yet I feel odd talking to something that I can't see when I pray, life is fucked up at puberty stages!!!
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If you're atheist that's fine but you shouldn't ridicule other people for their beliefs.
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Baron Von Fritz wrote:
It is impossible to prove a negative. Hence, the FSM. An equally improbable flying contraption.frostbite135 wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa...How can you prove God is NOT real? Answer that question before you start saying "There is no real way to prove God is real".Сюмшдиdэя. Рщи wrote:
Amen to that. I'm fifteen, and it's even worse since I was thirteen. I've questioned my faith multiple times before. Faith is the only reason there are Christians. There is no real way to prove God is real.At 13 religion is a tricky thing for me I haven't made up my mind, I do not want to say I am an atheist yet I feel odd talking to something that I can't see when I pray, life is fucked up at puberty stages!!!
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🎸₩℣ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸 wrote:
If you're atheist that's fine but you shouldn't ridicule other people for their beliefs.
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🎸₩℣ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸 wrote:
It's not that I'd like to ridicule your sacred beliefs. It's just that if we are going to discuss these beliefs in a public forum, people are inevitably going to be insulted.If you're atheist that's fine but you shouldn't ridicule other people for their beliefs.
How dare these people ridicule my beliefs?
Cake or death?
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But, to the original post, I must ask this question in honest sincerity:
Why do people need multiple individuals to pray for one person? Do the most popular prayers float to the top of God's to-do list, or what?
Why is it that more people praying for a thing is better than just one person?
In the end, does God answer prayers for things that he wasn't going to do anyway? I was taught that prayers should ask for things that God wants, otherwise it will be ignored.
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@ Brown Note: The idea of praying isn't to ask for God to do things for you all the time. You're supposed to place God above everything else, therefore you should thank him before you do anything else. You can pray for things that you want so long as they would not break the 10 commandments (ie, help the soldiers overseas, help those in the disaster area, help my friend find You Lord) those kind of things. God never ignores prayers. He may choose to act, not act, or do something else that would benefit you more in the manner he sees fit.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
I've always wondered that myself.But, to the original post, I must ask this question in honest sincerity:
Why do people need multiple individuals to pray for one person? Do the most popular prayers float to the top of God's to-do list, or what?
Why is it that more people praying for a thing is better than just one person?
In the end, does God answer prayers for things that he wasn't going to do anyway? I was taught that prayers should ask for things that God wants, otherwise it will be ignored.
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❌❌ZebulonPike❌❌ wrote:
But if God wasn't going to help those people, you think asking him to do so will change his mind, or cause him to neglect something else he would have done in that time?@ Brown Note: The idea of praying isn't to ask for God to do things for you all the time. You're supposed to place God above everything else, therefore you should thank him before you do anything else. You can pray for things that you want so long as they would not break the 10 commandments (ie, help the soldiers overseas, help those in the disaster area, help my friend find You Lord) those kind of things. God never ignores prayers. He may choose to act, not act, or do something else that would benefit you more in the manner he sees fit.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Whenever two or three or more are gathered in His name, He is there. Asking others to pray is a form of gathering (for a common cause).But, to the original post, I must ask this question in honest sincerity:
Why do people need multiple individuals to pray for one person? Do the most popular prayers float to the top of God's to-do list, or what?
Why is it that more people praying for a thing is better than just one person?
In the end, does God answer prayers for things that he wasn't going to do anyway? I was taught that prayers should ask for things that God wants, otherwise it will be ignored.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
But, to the original post, I must ask this question in honest sincerity:
Why do people need multiple individuals to pray for one person? Do the most popular prayers float to the top of God's to-do list, or what?
Sherry here. And I can answer this one. Why does a person "need" multiple people to pray for that one person? I'm not gona jump into theology here because you will learn to be true to your own path.(you teens) but having people say, yeh I am praying for ya, I'm lifting you up, I'm sending positive thots to you....it cheers the sick person on. It gives them strength and hope understanding they are not alone. It DOES ultimately make a difference, regardless of what your personal theology is, when you let a person know you are THERE for them.
Blessed Be
Sherry -
Btw, I'm using the impersonal "you," not calling anyone out.
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@ Belial: God wants us (as far as Christian go, but I'm speaking from the Protestant background) to have a personal relationship with Him. He wants us to talk to Him and let Him handle our problems. Because He is all-knowing,
He already knows what we are going to pray about and has decided how he is going to respond to your prayer. This doesn't mean that we don't have to pray though, it simply means that God has already chosen how things will take place. -
How dumb, I put everything in the quote box. Sorry
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Exactly. Take praying for redemption of sins, he's isn't going to do it if you aren't going to ask. Also, in praying you are giving glory to God.❌❌ZebulonPike❌❌ wrote:
But if God wasn't going to help those people, you think asking him to do so will change his mind, or cause him to neglect something else he would have done in that time?@ Brown Note: The idea of praying isn't to ask for God to do things for you all the time. You're supposed to place God above everything else, therefore you should thank him before you do anything else. You can pray for things that you want so long as they would not break the 10 commandments (ie, help the soldiers overseas, help those in the disaster area, help my friend find You Lord) those kind of things. God never ignores prayers. He may choose to act, not act, or do something else that would benefit you more in the manner he sees fit.
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It's just that this god we pray to is omnipresent, omnipotent, and knows everyone's heart and mind...
Why presume to direct God to do what we want? God already knows everything and presumably has a full agenda layed out into the foreseeable future, which our understanding is for him, forever.
He knows what's on your mind, so why pray, even privately, let alone for show or en masse?
Does the fact that you choose words that may or may not be your true thoughts or desires help anything?
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
No.It's just that this god we pray to is omnipresent, omnipotent, and knows everyone's heart and mind...
Why presume to direct God to do what we want? God already knows everything and presumably has a full agenda layed out into the foreseeable future, which our understanding is for him, forever.
He knows what's on your mind, so why pray, even privately, let alone for show or en masse?
Does the fact that you choose words that may or may not be your true thoughts or desires help anything?
However, you're missing the point. Christians are supposed to have a personal connection with God. Praying is more or less a conversation. Also, as Chriatians, we were both taoght how and taught to pray to God, so there obviously must be a point to it. And hey, miracles have been known to happen.
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SkyTheLimit wrote:
See, that's an honest statement. For many of us, prayer is not about God. We just pretend it is out of custom. We use it as a tool amongst ourselves. I really respect this answer.Sherry here. And I can answer this one. Why does a person "need" multiple people to pray for that one person? I'm not gona jump into theology here because you will learn to be true to your own path.(you teens) but having people say, yeh I am praying for ya, I'm lifting you up, I'm sending positive thots to you....it cheers the sick person on. It gives them strength and hope understanding they are not alone. It DOES ultimately make a difference, regardless of what your personal theology is, when you let a person know you are THERE for them.
Blessed Be
Sherry -
Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
People still have free-will. They can choose what to do. Also, jus thinking "Oh gee, I wish God would help those poor children in Africa" isn't like praying for Him I do it. It's like saying "Oh gee, I wish [person standing next to you] would give me a high five!" instead of actually asking them to give you a high five.It's just that this god we pray to is omnipresent, omnipotent, and knows everyone's heart and mind...
Why presume to direct God to do what we want? God already knows everything and presumably has a full agenda layed out into the foreseeable future, which our understanding is for him, forever.
He knows what's on your mind, so why pray, even privately, let alone for show or en masse?
Does the fact that you choose words that may or may not be your true thoughts or desires help anything?
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Carpenter wrote:
So then when only one prays, he may not be there?Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Whenever two or three or more are gathered in His name, He is there. Asking others to pray is a form of gathering (for a common cause).But, to the original post, I must ask this question in honest sincerity:
Why do people need multiple individuals to pray for one person? Do the most popular prayers float to the top of God's to-do list, or what?
Why is it that more people praying for a thing is better than just one person?
In the end, does God answer prayers for things that he wasn't going to do anyway? I was taught that prayers should ask for things that God wants, otherwise it will be ignored.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
That's a problem that the person needs to take up woth their priest/pastor/God. They've strayed from how God wants us to pray and they're placing other things above God.SkyTheLimit wrote:
See, that's an honest statement. For many of us, prayer is not about God. We just pretend it is out of custom. We use it as a tool amongst ourselves. I really respect this answer.✂ make a difference, regardless of what your personal theology is, when you let a person know you are THERE for them.
Blessed Be
Sherry -
❌❌ZebulonPike❌❌ wrote:
Surely you see the dilemma here. Everything in your senario is pre-ordained. You have just negated free will.@ Belial: God wants us (as far as Christian go, but I'm speaking from the Protestant background) to have a personal relationship with Him. He wants us to talk to Him and let Him handle our problems. Because He is all-knowing,
He already knows what we are going to pray about and has decided how he is going to respond to your prayer. This doesn't mean that we don't have to pray though, it simply means that God has already chosen how things will take place. -
Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
It is pre-ordained, but we still had the free will. He doesn't force us to choose what is going to happen, we choose what is going to happen. It's like showing a kid a candy bar and a road killed squirrel and asking "Which would you rather have?". You don't force the kid to choose the candy, but you know good and well that's what he's going to pick.❌❌ZebulonPike❌❌ wrote:
Surely you see the dilemma here. Everything in your senario is pre-ordained. You have just negated free will.@ Belial:
He already knows what we are going to pray about and has decided how he is going to respond to your prayer. This doesn't mean that we don't have to pray though, it simply means that God has already chosen how things will take place. -
Baron Von Fritz wrote:
There's no way to prove He ISN'T real either. It's mostly about faith, but some people, I believe, have seen God. Ever read "Heaven is for Real?" It's about a kid that saw God and visited Heaven.frostbite135 wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa...How can you prove God is NOT real? Answer that question before you start saying "There is no real way to prove God is real".Сюмшдиdэя. Рщи wrote:
Amen to that. I'm fifteen, and it's even worse since I was thirteen. I've questioned my faith multiple times before. Faith is the only reason there are Christians. There is no real way to prove God is real.At 13 religion is a tricky thing for me I haven't made up my mind, I do not want to say I am an atheist yet I feel odd talking to something that I can't see when I pray, life is fucked up at puberty stages!!!
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🎸₩℣ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸 wrote:
Exactly. I have friends that don't believe in God, and I'm Christian. If they don't want to be a Christian, they don't have to be.If you're atheist that's fine but you shouldn't ridicule other people for their beliefs.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
First, it's so that the person knows that someone out there cares enough about the person to pray to someone(or something, if you prefer) that can help. Second, a bible verse states that if you're for God, he'll grant you're heart's deepest desires. Does this always happen, no, I'll admit, but God does love everyone.But, to the original post, I must ask this question in honest sincerity:
Why do people need multiple individuals to pray for one person? Do the most popular prayers float to the top of God's to-do list, or what?
Why is it that more people praying for a thing is better than just one person?
In the end, does God answer prayers for things that he wasn't going to do anyway? I was taught that prayers should ask for things that God wants, otherwise it will be ignored.
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❌❌ZebulonPike❌❌ wrote:
Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
That's a problem that the person needs to take up woth their priest/pastor/God. They've strayed from how God wants us to pray and they're placing other things above God.SkyTheLimit wrote:
See, that's an honest statement. For many of us, prayer is not about God. We just pretend it is out of custom. We use it as a tool amongst ourselves. I really respect this answer.✂ make a difference, regardless of what your personal theology is, when you let a person know you are THERE for them.
Blessed Be
Sherrynot sure how strayed got in there
I think people limit their god and make Him too small. If I cant properly address The Great One when I enter the Throne Room.I think The One that calls Himself Father would let me just crawl up in His lap and just BE. an analogy of the christian God of course.
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