To those who voted for Trump
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〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
We keep seeing this comparison between BLM and J6. I hereby declare that violence from any protest is unacceptable. Everyone needs to be held accountable for that stuff.Should the rioters be criminally investigated, charged and adjudicated for the mass arsons, theft, property damage that occurred during BLM’s hey days? What about the governors, mayors and congressmen who publicly supported their illegal use violence and destruction and didn’t publicly condemn the illegal actions? A sense of it’s good for me but not for thee- does exist.
However, as for the purpose? BLM were protests because of a horrendous injustice that was not being addressed. All he needed to do was come out and say “what happened here was wrong.” But he didn’t. He gave a wink wink and put more fire under it.
Ask for J6? All we need to point to is the gallows for Pence and the fake electors waiting in the wings. Summoning the mob was as clear as day.
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I disagree with, but fully understand the sentiment, the Jan 6 protesters being also outraged at a “horrible injustice”. Perceptions and experiences are different for all people. Truth or fiction is a complete and separate illusion.
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〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
Horrible injustice? He had his day in court with over 70 federal judges. Including the SCOTUS. Not a shred of evidence was presented for his claims.I disagree with, but fully understand the sentiment, the Jan 6 protesters being also outraged at a “horrible injustice”. Perceptions and experiences are different for all people. Truth or fiction is a complete and separate illusion.
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That doesn’t change the fact of the protesters believing there was a horrible injustice. Just as far left feel a SCOTUS decision on abortion was a horrible injustice. It doesn’t make it so- but feelings are messy and rarely based on fact
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Eating horses is horrible- unless it isn’t.
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This was an entertaining read but I don’t wanna get dragged into an argument so uh have a good day guys!
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Pussy!!!
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Yesterday, Donnie complained that too many schools had names on them. (What idiocy is he even talking about? Aiming to put his own name in fake gold letters on all of them now?)
And as usual, he was just making stuff up out of his lying mouth and claimed “nobody was in there doing any work.” He said most of them were probably GOLFING. 😂😂😂
Meanwhile… the next day, he’s on the Maracrapo golf scene himself.
Ohhh yeah
Billionaire commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick screamed that if you have any issue for not receiving your Social Security check on time… you’re probably engaged in fraud and crimes!
“Sorry grandma. I can’t get social security on the phone.
Have you been using your check to buy crack or something?Remember Folks: These psychotic oligarchs could care less about you. See the documentary about that poor Scottish woman where they cut her water off for Trump‘s ugly golf course.
Every accusation is always an admission with this regime.
And you just can’t make this stuff up.
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Goin’ bonkers again.
Yesterday, was two legs bad. Now… it’s two legs good.
For more than a decade, Sean Hannity - the guy filled with red faced rage over electric vehicles because “real men didn’t drive those things”… has bought a Tesla. Seems he’s coming out of the closet.
The Bromance between Muskrat and Hannity is so electrifying, that its even got Miss Lindsay Graham blushing.
“Oh my! Sean went and did whaat?! I ain’t gonna lie me none. South African Muskrats are kinda cute.”
Up next? Teslas loaded with Starbucks for the WH? Tesla NASCAR? Stay tuned.
Because you just can’t make this stuff up.
Addendum: Been there, done that? 94% of Germans will not buy a Tesla. Seems Germans are defying America’s red, white and black wearing Proud Boys?
Oh well… Back to drooling over vintage clips of Uncle Adolf staring into the eyes of young brown shirt boys.
Jungian Shadows emerging folks.
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Persephone… You still out there? Because we got us a testimony. Already.
Recently, Terry and Maggie Overson a retired Virginia couple found their checking account hacked and siphoned of 45K between Cash App and PayPal.
PayPal had agreed to make restitution that is… Just up until a few days ago when the Trump administration closed down the CFPB (Consumer Finance Protection Bureau).
Since the threat of having CFPB on their side is gone… Guess what’s happening?
Yeah, they ain’t getting their money back folks. PayPal has just suddenly… ghosted them.
What was that you said Persephone? Situations like this would have recourse at the LOCAL level?
You got a number for them in Virginia? Someone with the resources and muscle who can take on PayPal?
And this is just one story folks. Get ready America.
The lawlessness of the 1800’s Wild West is here again! Ye Haw! Break out the cowboy costumes y’all! Just like the Robber Barrons…. Uhhh Oligarchs want it.
You just can’t make this stuff up
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Yes pay pal should be forced to pay for a fraud that, maybe prosecuted for fraud as well…. Wait … who committed the fraud? … try again.
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〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
PayPal , because of their lack of security, warning system, or lack thereof now means a customer‘s loss is on the customer?Yes pay pal should be forced to pay for a fraud that, maybe prosecuted for fraud as well…. Wait … who committed the fraud? … try again.
Can anyone help out here with the cognitive dissonance?
Services such as returning lost funds due to theft, were always offered. Know why? Because of the federal government. It wasn’t out of the goodness of their hearts.
More coming across the board. Guaranteed.
You being OK with this is literally playing into DJT’s only truthful statement about shooting one of his supporters on 5th Avenue and not losing die hard support.
Bro- Sometimes it’s ok to say “I might be wrong.“
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𝕾𝖙𝖆𝖌𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝕷𝖊𝖊 wrote:
So you have already determined pay pal is 100% at fault and no negligence by the consumer in how they may have been scammed via text, email or infected pc/phone ✅〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
PayPal , because of their lack of security, warning system, or lack thereof now means a customer‘s loss is on the customer?Yes pay pal should be forced to pay for a fraud that, maybe prosecuted for fraud as well…. Wait … who committed the fraud? … try again.
Can anyone help out here with the cognitive dissonance?
Services such as returning lost funds due to theft, were always offered. Know why? Because of the federal government. It wasn’t out of the goodness of their hearts.
More coming across the board. Guaranteed.
Bro- Sometimes it’s ok to say “I might be wrong.“
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〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
The couple WAS getting their funds back. Whatever went down,PayPal had agreed to it. Not anymore. So much for Donnie caring about the average American. 👌💩𝕾𝖙𝖆𝖌𝖌𝖊𝖗 𝕷𝖊𝖊 wrote:
So you have already determined pay pal is 100% at fault…〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
PayPal , because of their lack of security, warning system, or lack thereof now means a customer‘s loss is on the customer?Yes pay pal should be forced to pay for a fraud that, maybe prosecuted for fraud as well…. Wait … who committed the fraud? … try again.
Can anyone help out here with the cognitive dissonance?
Services such as returning lost funds due to theft, were always offered. Know why? Because of the federal government.
More coming across the board. Guaranteed.
Bro- Sometimes it’s ok to say “I might be wrong.“
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It’s not that we are wrong. It’s just that you seem to have a hard time understanding different viewpoints, and you definitely have an agenda. You don’t seem to be a centrist, and you are absolutely playing for your team. It’s not based on reality. It’s based on sensationalism and argument.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
How is people getting screwed over thanks to the eradication of protections… Sensationalism? That is the most irrational thing I’ve ever heard.It’s not that we are wrong. It’s just that you seem to have a hard time understanding different viewpoints, and you definitely have an agenda. You don’t seem to be a centrist, and you are absolutely playing for your team. It’s not based on reality. It’s based on sensationalism and argument.
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Mr. a priori: Did you see that pile of crap Donnie put in your living room?
Trumpist: That’s what you’re calling it. I don’t call it that.
Mr. a priori: But it’s right there in front of you.
Trumpist: Your information is fake.
Mr. a priori: OK, suppose it’s fake. But whatever it is… Do you smell how it’s stinking up your place?
Trumpist: That’s not true. There’s corn in there. Corn doesn’t smell because it’s not digested. And… We’re Making Corn Great Again! You just don’t know anything about facts… because you’re a communist. Probably married to a bureaucrat too. And you have Donnie Derangement Syndrome. You’re brainwashed.
Mr. a priori: Wow. A lot of specific terminology in your head. You think that up all by yourself?
Trumpist: What’s thinking?
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Meanwhile Huyundai has pledged over 5 billion to build a steel mill in Louisiana. That area really needs it & those are high paying union jobs.
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First off as someone who watched not a single MAGA person give Joe Biden an ounce of credit for the MILLIONS of jobs he created, some of it thanks to his infrastructure plan delivered on the black of Donnie‘s failed promise, I would like to say… “awesome” I applaud the endeavor.
(Now, can some of you MAGA guys, be man enough as I am? And say “Thank You President Sleepy Joe?”)
However, let Uncle Stagger, bring some receipts and examine the fine print.
You claim that this plant will be offering “union wages.”
After a quick search out there, there’s no mention of this.
Additionally, having lived in both red and blue states myself, I was pretty certain that a place like Lou-Easy-Anna… (along with many in the south) are fond of an Orwellian euphemism: “Right To Work State.” Yeah. It’s a thang down there.
Translation: Zero Unions
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Zero enhanced job security
Zero grievance procedures
Zero Collective Bargaining
Lower wages
Lower quality healthcare
Lower safety standards
Lower safety inspections
Lower structured learning
Lower career growthThere’s more to list, but I’ll keep it short.
This being the case, just a few years ago the average steel worker earned $13.53 an hour. That’s only 13 CENTS more an hour than they were making in 1983.
(Remember my little rant a little while back about stagnating salaries as the cost of living rose through the decades, and you no longer can find a single income earner supporting a family?) BINGO we got us a winner.
But let’s not be so negative.
Remember that little living wage calculator we discussed?
Ascension Parish, Louisiana local economy would require a living wage for a single adult with no children to be at roughly $23.70. Of at least six dollars an hour for a single guy.
Looks like we got us a little deficit here?
I sincerely do hope and pray that they will do better.
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But considering the behavior and track record of the billionaires behind this administration… what we’re looking at here, is exactly what makes an Oligarch giddy.
And let’s put some icing on this foreign manufacturer, planting a flag down in Louisiana.
Guarantee – neither the CEOs nor the company itself will be paying any taxes back into the system of which they are benefiting.
But you can be damn sure that those workers making less than $14 an hour will be taxed. And you can be damn sure that that money will be put right back into that company in the form of what’s called “subsidies.
For the more sophisticated minds… That’s actually called “corporate welfare.”
(The thing that Muskrat is so fond of for his failed businesses.)
But hey… If that town is desperate for jobs? Might not be a bad deal with both husband and wife can work side-by-side dreaming of buying enough eggs.
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“Learn to code.” That was your side, right?
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I used to lean Dem among echos of “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country” That mantra has faded into more of a “until I get what I think I deserve, I’m not going to give much effort”
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I need to find the Yale study on wages/reward compensation towards task goal improvements. Basically providing more money when things are done better was the least effective incentive
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https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/when-is-one-motivation-better-than-two
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Stagger- this touches on some of your concepts regarding living wages & I don’t disagree with them. If you are not happy with your wage or your employer- is it them or the work? Either way you have the ability to change both yourself https://youtu.be/u6XAPnuFjJc?si=1IYf-lXfPaxqC-cr
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〓∞Persephone∞〓 wrote:
That’s a very interesting study to me. I was enlisted, (institutionalized) as a young man. I’m not sure if I was programmed to have a “different” motivation by them, or if it’s built into me at a lower level. Even now, I’m less interested in money than a mission. What I think though, is that these people that are institutionalized as soldiers are not the same as typical employees. I don’t know for sure, but I feel like most people just want fair compensation and wouldn’t do anything without it. So I am skeptical of applying a strategy of non-monetary incentives across the board. Some types of jobs are clearly not for the money.. Police, teaching, military, government… But most of our private economy is built on a foundation of desire for wealth, I think.https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/when-is-one-motivation-better-than-two
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Rͣeͩeͩferjuana wrote:
Hey all, figured I'd stir the pot a little. How do you feel now that Trump is installing the richest people in the world into unelected positions of power, wanting to take away rights of thousands of Americans(land of the free?), along with dehumanizing trans people(regardless of what you think of them it's wrong for the president to dehumanized his own citizens) AND on top of that sending immigrants(and some reports of native americans being picked up by ICE) to guantanimo Bay(notorious for bad conditions and torture) to "detaining camps"? He also apperenly wants to dismantle the department of education. Is this what you wanted when you voted for him?
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Says the bot who’s never even been to America. 😂Ꮆ๑ͣอͩཞͩར໒ ︻╦╤─ wrote:
Yes, this is what I voted for. Hope that clears it up.Rͣeͩeͩferjuana wrote:
Hey all, figured I'd stir the pot a little. How do you feel now that Trump is installing the richest people in the world into unelected positions of power, wanting to take away rights of thousands of Americans(land of the free?), along with dehumanizing trans people(regardless of what you think of them it's wrong for the president to dehumanized his own citizens) AND on top of that sending immigrants(and some reports of native americans being picked up by ICE) to guantanimo Bay(notorious for bad conditions and torture) to "detaining camps"? He also apperenly wants to dismantle the department of education. Is this what you wanted when you voted for him?
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It’s Official: Canada has declared economic ties with the US as OVER.
Importing more produce than ever before from Mexico and S. America. has begun.
They have also strengthened bonds with the EU as never before seen. Shocker! How can they do this?
Now Donnie is getting mad. More tough guy tariffs coming! (Wowzers)
How? Simple. They have declared the obvious - The US is no longer a stable nation, nor leader of the free world.
(Predicted by yours truly a few posts back)
Good job Donnie. Even though Mexico has a more powerful economy than Vlad… Maybe you should get him on the red phone and start trading some rotten potatoes? Oh heck. How about the fat boy over N. Korea? No question he’s got a roaring economy.
DJT’s promises to lower prices is NOT happening folks. He’s a disaster. Hell bent on destroying everything… because that’s what insecure narcissists always do. And frankly, that’s what he always HAS done. So why should he do anything different?
Because you just can’t make this stuff up.
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