Corona Virus
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In the Milan region, doctors are deciding who gets treatment by who’s more likely to survive. Others are left to die. They’re overwhelmed and don’t have enough space or equipment like respirators. It’s that serious there. It was worse in the Wuhan region. Will areas of the US ever get that bad? I hope not, but it’s hard to contain in urban areas, especially considering the slow response by the US as a whole. Yes, many of you (us) are out of the high risk groups. Yet, being callous about it endangers others. Cool, so you get it, it’s mild, or maybe you never experience symptoms at all. But what about others who you might expose? Are you ok with infecting someone super vulnerable? Also, again, if you need to quarantine, are you prepared for 2 weeks with no outside contact? Whether or not this is serious for you, it’s already plenty serious for some in the US. Being selfish and dismissing it just endangers others — and who knows, maybe even yourself sooner or later.
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Do the math, how many ICU beds, hospital beds are in your area. How many of them are currently empty? What is the population of your area?
Multiply the population by .01-
Take that # and multiply by .25That would indicate 1/4 of 1/10th of your population that could require prolonged hospitalization.
Can your community meet the projected need?
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A community of 100,000 has 2 hospitals. One with 226 beds and one with 270. 496 total beds. In the event of a local emergency, discharges are ramped up to free beds. This creates, for sake of argument, 30% availability for incoming patient beds. That is less than 150 beds available for an acute illness, requiring hospitalization, at an extended time frame (2 or more weeks).
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Exactly Persephone. Those of us who are immuno compromised are very aware and nervous. I didn’t start hoarding toilet paper forcryingoutloud but I am being cautious.
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SkyTheLimit wrote:
I’m glad you’re being cautious.Exactly Persephone. Those of us who are immuno compromised are very aware and nervous. I didn’t start hoarding toilet paper forcryingoutloud but I am being cautious.
I’m glad xambler took the correct precautions and got his family out of danger.But, I’m also reading from both who and the cdc that 90% of cases have mild to no symptoms. So I think we’re overreacting on a large scale and causing irreparable harm to our economy.
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NsynQ wrote:
Don’t trip I dug a tunnel to Italy𝔻𝕄𝕃 💔 wrote:
Yeah i have booked a vacation to Florence in Juli , did it 4 months ago.. don’t think i can go nowI see the whole of Italy is on lock down.
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Mystery wrote:
It’s crazy here n VegasThe WHO has finally declared it a pandemic.
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⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛ wrote:
Are ju speaking engrish?We shouldn’t panic, but you all need to take this more seriously. After all, even if you get a mild case, you potentially face two weeks’ quarantine. Do you have food for two weeks? Supplies? Can you afford to miss two weeks of pay? Does your insurance cover a hospital stay?
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Everyone panic!!! We all gonn die.... laughing at ourselves
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Ese Santos wrote:
Does it have the cool motorbike on rails like el chapo? If it doesnt then is it even a tunnel lolNsynQ wrote:
Don’t trip I dug a tunnel to Italy𝔻𝕄𝕃 💔 wrote:
Yeah i have booked a vacation to Florence in Juli , did it 4 months ago.. don’t think i can go nowI see the whole of Italy is on lock down.
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Ese Santos wrote:
What’s going on in Vegas??Mystery wrote:
It’s crazy here n VegasThe WHO has finally declared it a pandemic.
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Can I stop paying my mortgage yet?
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Oh, that’s just bad. 😂 That’s one of those morbid things that shouldn’t be funny but that make me laugh anyway.🌲Ҫᒫᛨ൬ᙪ⛏F℧꒖gΔL🍄 wrote:
I was going to hold a group prayer session for the 34 fallen but it got canceled due to covid-19. 🤷🏻♂️🦠℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
You are always the damn contrarian! ✂️Corona update: 34 dead in the United States
Let’s not forget swing flu (h1n1) killed 12,000 and nothing was canceled and no one seemed to care.
I think you are totally pulling a Belial. That’s it, isn’t it? He would argue the other side of anything, just for the fun of it. Half the time he even agreed with the people he was arguing with, lol.
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I love the spell check errors. We’ve got Corona 🍺 virus and swing 𓋲 flu.
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On a more serious note, the entire country is basically cancelling anything that has people congregate - from sports, to concerts, to meetings, and even television shows like The Tonight Show. Churches are canceling services and even “Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia will close to visitors beginning Friday.” 🤔
Basically go to work (if you can’t telecommute) and then go home. Spend more time with your family and more time playing TW. 😝
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Update: first confirmed case of Covid-19 was found in the United States January 19. Nearly 2 months later we still only have 61 deaths. With 20 of those isolated to a nursing home in Washington and no previously healthy people under 70 passing away.
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@Viking: That’s because initially there was no community spread. All cases were travel-related and it was fairly contained. However, we now have community spread, hence the reason why it’s spreading faster in the US than it was. The first case of community-spread COVID didn’t happen until Feb 28. So it’s essentially only been “out” in the US for 2 weeks - not long enough to project what will happen.
“Using available preliminary data, the Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission published on Feb. 28 by WHO, [5] which is based on 55,924 laboratory confirmed cases, observed the following median time from symptoms onset to clinical recovery:
* mild cases: approximately 2 weeks
* severe or critical disease: 3 - 6 weeks
* time from onset to the development of severe disease (including hypoxia): 1 week
Among patients who have died, the time from symptom onset to outcome ranges from 2 - 8 weeks.”https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms/
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The US is also up to 68 deaths now.
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You know that it’s bad if places like Disneyland will be closing. It was even announced that an Indian casino in Southern California will close later today.
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Heck, if you want to go by the current stats of resolved cases in the US, they are:
Deaths: 68
Recovered: 59However, these aren’t representative of anything. We’ve got 3,460 currently infected people. Only 10 of those cases are listed as serious or critical. It’s too early for any reliable stats here.
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Maybe you aren’t worried about yourself. I have some chronic diseases but none of the ones mentioned that they’ve seen as contributing mortality factors, so I don’t feel anymore at risk than the average person. What about your parents though, or any other older relatives you might have? My parents are dead, but I’m really close with my in-laws. They’re 70 and take meds that suppress their immune systems. I’m worried the most about them.
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Just arrived in my city today and there are no cleaning supplies anywhere and schools have begun to close.
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ʂრ⌖ƙع😱ժ⌖ʛ wrote:
Maybe. A lot of cities are halting evictions and foreclosures for awhile. Of course, that won’t be forever - you will have to pay it sometime, lol. I read that Houston is also making sure no one’s water is turned off if they can’t pay their water bill. They don’t want anyone to stop washing their hands.Can I stop paying my mortgage yet?
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∞ᐯ工丂乇尺工Ⓞᑎ∞ wrote:
You arrived where from where? Schools are just beginning to close? Seems kind of late. They finally closed all the bars here. Restaurants are delivery only. I assume that means other entertainment, like the movies, are closed too. Our grocery stores are staying open and plan to stay open - they are even hiring, lol. I haven’t been to the store but they say they are keeping stocked. Towards that end they are also limiting the number of any one thing a person can buy at a time. That’s smart though - stops or cuts down on the hoarding.Just arrived in my city today and there are no cleaning supplies anywhere and schools have begun to close.
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Live in Ontario, Canada. Shut everything down now except for grocery stores, pharmacies, and absolutely 100% essential services. Speed is everything.
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ฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
See, that seems smart to me. You guys are at 441 cases. We’re at 4,712 cases. I think we should have done that earlier.Live in Ontario, Canada. Shut everything down now except for grocery stores, pharmacies, and absolutely 100% essential services. Speed is everything.
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Mystery wrote:
ฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
See, that seems smart to me. You guys are at 441 cases. We’re at 4,712 cases. I think we should have done that earlier.Live in Ontario, Canada. Shut everything down now except for grocery stores, pharmacies, and absolutely 100% essential services. Speed is everything.
... you’re currently at the same rate with a population 10x Canada. As a Canadian I hope we can convince our citizens ... shut everything down. Now. Not next week. Today / tomorrow.
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Mystery wrote:
The virus arrived today***∞ᐯ工丂乇尺工Ⓞᑎ∞ wrote:
You arrived where from where? Schools are just beginning to close? Seems kind of late. They finally closed all the bars here. Restaurants are delivery only. I assume that means other entertainment, like the movies, are closed too. Our grocery stores are staying open and plan to stay open - they are even hiring, lol. I haven’t been to the store but they say they are keeping stocked. Towards that end they are also limiting the number of any one thing a person can buy at a time. That’s smart though - stops or cuts down on the hoarding.Just arrived in my city today and there are no cleaning supplies anywhere and schools have begun to close.
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Study says novel coronavirus can last on surfaces for up to 3 days
From CNN's Jacqueline Howard
“The details of a study that found the novel coronavirus could remain on contaminated plastic and stainless steel surfaces for up to three days has been published in the New England Journal of Medicine as a correspondence to the editor.
The study — funded by the National Institutes of Health — was posted online last week.
For the study, researchers compared the "surface stability" of the novel coronavirus with that of the SARS-CoV-1 virus, which sparked the SARS epidemic that started in 2002.
The researchers found that the novel coronavirus could be detected on...
* Copper for up to four hours
* Cardboard for up to 24 hours
* Plastic and stainless steel for up to 72 hours.
Also, the coronavirus could linger in aerosols — the suspension of tiny particles or droplets in the air — for up to three hours, according to the study... -
A study published last month in The Journal of Hospital Infection found that human coronaviruses, such as SARS, have been found to persist on inanimate surfaces — including metal, glass or plastic surfaces — for as long as nine days if that surface had not been disinfected.
Researchers continue to investigate just how long the novel coronavirus can linger on surfaces and even in the air, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, World Health Organization infectious disease epidemiologist, said during a media briefing on Monday.”
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