CA VOTERS LEGALIZE POT?
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Legalize marijuana? I voted no
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Killjoy.....lol
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Here in Masshole land it's just a $100.00 ticket as long as you don't have 6 bricks in your trunk.
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Why would you vote no? Have you seen the figures in terms of revenue that can be generated if it was controlled and regulated through governments? Not to mention the sheer amount of criminal dealers that can be elliminated? Oh yeah, and also it would be goodbye recession with a lot of new jobs surrounding the import/export, the shops ect ? It really needs to be legalised as quick as possible.
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YOU wrote:
+ it's the best drug in the world, one in which I hold very dear to my heart! Haha!Why would you vote no? Have you seen the figures in terms of revenue that can be generated if it was controlled and regulated through governments? Not to mention the sheer amount of criminal dealers that can be elliminated? Oh yeah, and also it would be goodbye recession with a lot of new jobs surrounding the import/export, the shops ect ? It really needs to be legalised as quick as possible.
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Even if it passes nothing will change. It's still a banned substance by the federal government. If it passes in CA the federal government will sue the state. It will be nothing but more bs and nothing will change. Until the federal government decriminalized it and let's states decide how to deal with it.
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TheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
It makes you stupidWhy would you vote no? Have you seen the figures in terms of revenue that can be generated if it was controlled and regulated through governments? Not to mention the sheer amount of criminal dealers that can be elliminated? Oh yeah, and also it would be goodbye recession with a lot of new jobs surrounding the import/export, the shops ect ? It really needs to be legalised as quick as possible.
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Over here (wales) marijuana/cannabis is the third most used recreational drug, really only big suppliers are taken to jail, and then only for around 6-10 years which is a relatively short time compared to other countries-u see a lot of people using it if u know where to look
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stupid wrote:
Killjoy.....lol
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Look at what the legalisation of dope did to Amsterdam.... Your not going to tell me people visit that place for anything but good dope and girls...
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My wife is a drug and alcohol treatment counselor. It would certainly help her business in the long run.
We voted no.
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zraygo wrote:
so does alcahol. So you're all for prohibition then?TheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
It makes you stupidWhy would you vote no? Have you seen the figures in terms of revenue that can be generated if it was controlled and regulated through governments? Not to mention the sheer amount of criminal dealers that can be elliminated? Oh yeah, and also it would be goodbye recession with a lot of new jobs surrounding the import/export, the shops ect ? It really needs to be legalised as quick as possible.
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
It would be good though... After her consultation she could sell the patients copious amounts of dope... Win/win... And guaranteed return customers.My wife is a drug and alcohol treatment counselor. It would certainly help her business in the long run.
We voted no.
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Belial wrote:
Lol. We all saw how well that went.zraygo wrote:
so does alcahol. So you're all for prohibition then?TheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
It makes you stupidWhy would you vote no? Have you seen the figures in terms of revenue that can be generated if it was controlled and regulated through governments? Not to mention the sheer amount of criminal dealers that can be elliminated? Oh yeah, and also it would be goodbye recession with a lot of new jobs surrounding the import/export, the shops ect ? It really needs to be legalised as quick as possible.
Jim, what does your wife think about the long lasting effects of pot vs alcohol?
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Let's see pot slows the spread of disease and booze does...? Makes people rowdy assholes? On Halloween 4 schools were set on fire here in Vancouver. People don't do that when they are stoned. They eat and play video games.
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Pot actually doesn't have that many longterm side effects as compared to alcohol. The worst it does is a tendency to over react and a reduced short term memory.
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zraygo wrote:
Do you drink?TheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
It makes you stupidWhy would you vote no? Have you seen the figures in terms of revenue that can be generated if it was controlled and regulated through governments? Not to mention the sheer amount of criminal dealers that can be elliminated? Oh yeah, and also it would be goodbye recession with a lot of new jobs surrounding the import/export, the shops ect ? It really needs to be legalised as quick as possible.
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Belial wrote:
I believe there have been many cases where, people have eventually had severe mental issues due to pot.Pot actually doesn't have that many longterm side effects as compared to alcohol. The worst it does is a tendency to over react and a reduced short term memory.
Besides this, in an age where we are moving closer to banning smoking, I don't think pot should be added to the list of problems in the USA. -
YOU wrote:
I understand pot is already a problem, I just don't want to see the problem grow.Belial wrote:
I believe there have been many cases where, people have eventually had severe mental issues due to pot.Pot actually doesn't have that many longterm side effects as compared to alcohol. The worst it does is a tendency to over react and a reduced short term memory.
Besides this, in an age where we are moving closer to banning smoking, I don't think pot should be added to the list of problems in the USA. -
Howard wrote:
you know pot doesn't have to be smoked. As I said before alcohol is far more a problem. It has vIses more deaths than any other frug in history amd yet is considered socially acceptable.Belial wrote:
I believe there have been many cases where, people have eventually had severe mental issues due to pot.Pot actually doesn't have that many longterm side effects as compared to alcohol. The worst it does is a tendency to over react and a reduced short term memory.
Besides this, in an age where we are moving closer to banning smoking, I don't think pot should be added to the list of problems in the USA. -
Belial wrote:
That's true because if how much it's used. My guess if pot use was as widespread as alcohol, the amount if problems would be as greatHoward wrote:
you know pot doesn't have to be smoked. As I said before alcohol is far more a problem. It has vIses more deaths than any other frug in history amd yet is considered socially acceptable.Belial wrote:
I believe there have been many cases where, people have eventually had severe mental issues due to pot.Pot actually doesn't have that many longterm side effects as compared to alcohol. The worst it does is a tendency to over react and a reduced short term memory.
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how. Pot doesn't cause liver failure or any major medical problem. It's been shown as a matter of fact to be a treatment to many diseases. It doesn't impair reflexes as much as alcohol does. Amd it doesn't cause you to fully lose inhibitions. The evidence just isn't there to say that it could cause as much harm
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AmNeZ wrote:
Counselors have a code of ethics to follow & your suggestion is extremely unethical.Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
...After her consultation she could sell the patients copious amounts of dope...guaranteed return customers.My wife is a drug and alcohol treatment counselor. It would certainly help her business in the long run.
We voted no.
Kozy - could you provide a link to the study that says it slows the spread of disease? I've never heard that.
I have no issues with it's use for medical purposes (for nausea, & possibly insomnia). However, I have asked multiple times for people to list benefits that aren't medically related. I have yet to hear of any. Yet, according to Belial, above, it can have some side effects. So it should be legalized because people want to get high? That's just really sad.
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Belial wrote:
You said it causes more deaths, most from drinking and driving. You would See the same with pot with equal amounts if people smoking.how. Pot doesn't cause liver failure or any major medical problem. It's been shown as a matter of fact to be a treatment to many diseases. It doesn't impair reflexes as much as alcohol does. Amd it doesn't cause you to fully lose inhibitions. The evidence just isn't there to say that it could cause as much harm
I don't think you or I are qualified to say what evidence is out there. That's why I posed the question for jims wife
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Mystery wrote:
AmNeZ wrote:
but yet alcohol produces worse effects. So does cafeine. Society should at least be fair about thisJim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
Counselors have a code of ethics to follow & your suggestion is extremely unethicalKozy - could you provide a link to the study that says it slows the spread of disease? I've never heard that.
I have no issues with it's use for medical purposes (for nausea, & possibly insomnia). However, I have asked multiple times for people to list benefits that aren't medically related. I have yet to hear of any. Yet, according to Belial, above, it can have some side effects. So it should be legalized because people want to get high? That's just really sad.
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Saying that it should be legalized because it's not as harmful as alcohol is not a reason to legalize it.
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zraygo wrote:
Jim, what does your wife think about the long lasting effects of pot vs alcohol?
Each drug has it's own unique set of long lasting effects. That's why a well trained, experienced counselor can usually guess a client's drug of choice just by looking at them.
I have no problem with people using legal drugs. (My wife and I are wine makers and very much enjoy fine wines. Been trained by the likes of André Tchelistcheff (google the name) and his successors. Winemakers and their friend can cook too. If you like good food and wine and ever have a chance to go to a potluck dinner party at the home of today's fine winemakers and their friends, GO!!! It will be one of the best meals you'll ever have.) It's the misuse of drugs that gets people into trouble and that trouble comes VERY quietly and unnoticed.
Name the top two drugs in our society....
1. nicotine
2. caffeinealcohol is third.
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Mystery wrote:
no but it is a reason to illegalize cafeine alcohol tyllenol amd the numerous other drugs that cause more harm. But that will never happen because bog coorperations run those things amd those big cooperations donate to poloticians which is the only differenceSaying that it should be legalized because it's not as harmful as alcohol is not a reason to legalize it.
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Legalize the herb! Pato Banton said it best. I can't vote, didn't register in time. The main opposition is the large operation in northern ca. I personally know many people who may loose income if it passes but I would still vote for it.
It's the healin' of the nation -
We have kids on riddlin (sp?) old men on Viagra, he'll women on birth control completely screwing with nature. manufacturing chemicals to make your life easier. And people can't have something that grows in the ground? Weed is no drug. Not to mention liqour is dirt cheap destroys livers families and lives but that's legal? Never made sense to me. Legalize that shit already.
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Ok. Let's listen to the opposition. Name one good non propoganda reason why it should remain illegal?
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