I miss 👿Belial
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α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
You can't state and then not defend Pzm :/ that's not a debate. From one Christian to another, the Bible doesn't want you to just throw the gospel or whatever biblical part you are tying to explain at a person then walk away. The apostle Paul was an amazing orator and speaker. He debated with many people in the BibleDon't bother to reply
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Hyena wrote:
Because I'm tired of arguing.And I'm sure you have something to say back that will frustrate me more.Listen,I have been a Christian my whole life.I know what Christianity is.I know it better than you. It IS MY religion.So stop acting like you know everything.α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
Why not??😳Don't bother to reply
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The apostle Paul was a pretty good debator, take a look on his discussion with the leaders of Athens and the "unknown God" quite interesting on how he introduced his speaking point
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α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
So my understanding of this is if I want a girl, then I rape her. She is now mine irrespective of her wishes.✂
It is not promoting it.Back in those times the world was completely different.People had hundreds of wives,and everything was just different.Just because it talks about raping in the bible doesn't mean it's promoting it.It is simply an example of a sin.Christianity is believing in the one and only God.He sent his one and only son to die for our sins.And if we believe in Him,we will live eternally with Him in heaven.Now as Jesus has died for my sins I still get into heaven so long as I have paid my 50 pieces of silver to her father?
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α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
Whoa whoa bro, keep it calm, no need to bash someones intelligence just because they disagree with you by saying he doesn't know everything. Then it just degenerates into name calling and that gets nowhere fast. Try and keep it constructive :)Hyena wrote:
Because I'm tired of arguing.And I'm sure you have something to say back that will frustrate me more.Listen,I have been a Christian my whole life.I know what Christianity is.I know it better than you. It IS MY religion.So stop acting like you know everything.α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
Why not??😳Don't bother to reply
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That would be a quick understanding if you only read one verse, but the whole Bible has to agree or it's a false book. Therefore, no, based on other scriptures you don't get into heaven. Where was your yearly sacrifice since by paying the money you are operating under the "Law" of the Old Testament of which part that specific law has passed? Remember, context of scripture is important as well as Old Testament dispensation vs New Testament dispensation
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Well this thread went sideways.
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I also miss Belial. He brought life to the forums.
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༺☠ᏩɌ༏M༏Ɲ∆L☠༻ wrote:
Wish I could have seen him post, he sounds like he had an interesting view on thingsI also miss Belial. He brought life to the forums.
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LeWolfe wrote:
He would intentionally post inflammatory topics and posts. Just to get reactions from people and get debates going. Lot of people didn't like him or the things he said. He's not a bad guy. But he is forum banned for a reason.༺☠ᏩɌ༏M༏Ɲ∆L☠༻ wrote:
Wish I could have seen him post, he sounds like he had an interesting view on thingsI also miss Belial. He brought life to the forums.
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Hyena wrote:
⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛ wrote:
Yes please.....I think it's about time everyone but the outright trolls are unbanned. Bring back Belial, OTB, etc. Who cares if someone posts codes here? Or starts a legitimate argument? Or threatens to gouge everyones' eyes out with a fork? The game needs life!
Mods, Nick, Beauty, bring back the dead and inject some fucking life back into TW!
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LeWolfe wrote:
But all things being equal I can rape a girl and so long as I obey everything else in the bible I get into heaven???That would be a quick understanding if you only read one verse, but the whole Bible has to agree or it's a false book. Therefore, no, based on other scriptures you don't get into heaven. Where was your yearly sacrifice since by paying the money you are operating under the "Law" of the Old Testament of which part that specific law has passed? Remember, context of scripture is important as well as Old Testament dispensation vs New Testament dispensation
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Ha ha what a great Belial tribute thread, he would be proud!!
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Hyena wrote:
When you put it like that it sounds pretty bad.What the point is,is that God loves everyone.And he will forgive your sins.And you may think that you could do a bunch of messed up stuff and get to heaven easy.But that's not true.If you do the same sin over and over again your disobeying.LeWolfe wrote:
But all things being equal I can rape a girl and so long as I obey everything else in the bible I get into heaven???That would be a quick understanding if you only read one verse, but the whole Bible has to agree or it's a false book. Therefore, no, based on other scriptures you don't get into heaven. Where was your yearly sacrifice since by paying the money you are operating under the "Law" of the Old Testament of which part that specific law has passed? Remember, context of scripture is important as well as Old Testament dispensation vs New Testament dispensation
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He still forgives you.But God knows your hearts desire.And if you were purposefully disobeying Him and not obeying his commands you will go to hell.
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But does he love everyone?? My impression is that's not true, he doesn't love those who don't believe and worship him. Otherwise why punish them for not believing when they live a more pious life than many who do believe....
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Hyena wrote:
He does love and care for them.But if they don't believe in him they will go to hell with Satan and live in hell with him.He cares about them but he needs them to trust in him .But does he love everyone?? My impression is that's not true, he doesn't love those who don't believe and worship him. Otherwise why punish them for not believing when they live a more pious life than many who do believe....
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α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
See I don't think that's cool... I mean really, I have a child does really well at school, works hard, finds a good partner but because she doesn't worship me I beat her and damn her to eternity of pain and suffering...Hyena wrote:
He does love and care for them.But if they don't believe in him they will go to hell with Satan and live in hell with him.He cares about them but he needs them to trust in him .But does he love everyone?? My impression is that's not true, he doesn't love those who don't believe and worship him. Otherwise why punish them for not believing when they live a more pious life than many who do believe....
At the same time I have a lazy drug addict who does nothing but worship me and he gets praised and rewarded???
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It all depends on your faith.Just because your a Christian doesn't mean your a great person.And just because you aren't a Christian doesn't mean you aren't a great person.I understand your point though.
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α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
But in my example the "Christian" does nothing to contribute to society but is rewarded for faith but the Good Samaritan is punished...It all depends on your faith.Just because your a Christian doesn't mean your a great person.And just because you aren't a Christian doesn't mean you aren't a great person.I understand your point though.
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And another issue I have is you keep fighting and killing each other. Are not Muslims also Christians in that they believe in the one god of Abraham as told in both Genesis and the Koran???
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Hyena wrote:
Last I checked I haven't killed any Muslims my friend 😉 neither does the Bible condone New Testament killing except in self defense. And no, we don't believe in the same God. If we did our "Bibles/Korans" would be the same. To borrow a phrase "God doesn't interrupt or contradict himself" if they honestly believed Allah was the same as The Christian God, there would be more ChristiansAnd another issue I have is you keep fighting and killing each other. Are not Muslims also Christians in that they believe in the one god of Abraham as told in both Genesis and the Koran???
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This was ok to read until all this religion stuff started going on 😕
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★SNΞΛKBO★ wrote:
Good point, religion should be on a different thread than this, hyena, do you want to start a separate thread so the main subject can get back to the original?This was ok to read until all this religion stuff started going on 😕
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Islam
Christianity, Islam and Judaism are known as Abrahamic religions because of their common origin through Abraham.
Muslims commonly refer to Christians and Jews as "People of the Book", people who follow the same general teachings in relation to the worship of the One God (Tawhid) as known by Abraham.
The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
—Catechism of the Catholic Church[4]
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LeWolfe wrote:
This is how B would have liked it....★SNΞΛKBO★ wrote:
Good point, religion should be on a different thread than this, hyena, do you want to start a separate thread so the main subject can get back to the original?This was ok to read until all this religion stuff started going on 😕
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LeWolfe wrote:
Have not Christians waged wars against the Muslims over the centuries often with explicate directions from the heads of their church?? Even as recently as the Balkan conflict where the Christian Serbs mass murdered the Muslim Bosnians...Hyena wrote:
Last I checked I haven't killed any Muslims my friend 😉 neither does the Bible condone New Testament killing except in self defense. And no, we don't believe in the same God. If we did our "Bibles/Korans" would be the same. To borrow a phrase "God doesn't interrupt or contradict himself" if they honestly believed Allah was the same as The Christian God, there would be more Christians✂
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LeWolfe wrote:
Well said brother.α∂∂ ᏢᏃm wrote:
You can't state and then not defend Pzm :/ that's not a debate. From one Christian to another, the Bible doesn't want you to just throw the gospel or whatever biblical part you are tying to explain at a person then walk away. The apostle Paul was an amazing orator and speaker. He debated with many people in the BibleDon't bother to reply
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Hyena wrote:
Hyena, I agree with you entirely on that point! Belial would love the way this thread has developed. 👍LeWolfe wrote:
This is how B would have liked it....★SNΞΛKBO★ wrote: snip
snipLeWolfe, I'm 100% on your side in this argument my friend. You are polite, and state your points clearly. My bias is irrelevant - you are a good debater.
Hyena, you're one of my oldest TW friends but here I think we must genuinely disagree on the deepest level. LeWolfe has stated all of my arguments and more in my absence - and you must admit he did it nicely. 😏👍
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тʊʀғᵃ - ʀㅌҭɪʀㅌƌ wrote:
Mate it's all good, and agreeing to disagree is fine. I'm just trying to understand and am having difficulty....Hyena wrote:
Hyena, I agree with you entirely on that point! Belial would love the way this thread has developed. 👍LeWolfe wrote:
This is how B would have liked it....★SNΞΛKBO★ wrote: snip
snipLeWolfe, I'm 100% on your side in this argument my friend. You are polite, and state your points clearly. My bias is irrelevant - you are a good debater.
Hyena, you're one of my oldest TW friends but here I think we must genuinely disagree on the deepest level. LeWolfe has stated all of my arguments and more in my absence - and you must admit he did it nicely. 😏👍
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