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How do u guys feel about the trial?
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Tonight will be clear and nice with a big chance of a political firestorm of nastiness heading your way. Stay tuned for an update
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Overhyped but he still deserved to be charged with something I think
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Ok. Was it a crime that warranted 2nd degree murder? No. Is he guilty of stalking and picking a fight that he couldn't win? Yes.
GZ will have to live with this the rest of his life. I do not agree with his motives/actions on the night in question, but I do believe that he acted in self-defense when he was beaten. The problem I have is the way he put himself in that position. Because of those actions, a young man is dead. But hey, I'm just your average white guy talking here.
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cocojones 1.5 wrote:
Firestorm is inboundOverhyped but he still deserved to be charged with something I think
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I also, like jams, believe that Zimmerman shouldn't have followed Martin. And that he shouldn't have put himself in that situation. It was self defense though, Zimmerman isn't some sort of Racist who went out and purposely killed the nearest black kid, that's bull.
Also, this case is unbelievably over hyped, If I were Zimmerman I would hide in my basement for the next month or so, alot of people are pissed.
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I predict this thread is going to end in all sorts of hurt feelings.
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§αʋcɛ☠BʘՏՏ wrote:
How can we overcome the racism if we don't talk about it? I think that's part of the problem.I predict this thread is going to end in all sorts of hurt feelings.
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he's innocent .. It's been proven.
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Boner Jams '03 wrote:
Not saying don't talk about it. Just saying that alot of people don't actually want to talk about it, they just want to force their beliefs on the other side because they are wrong.§αʋcɛ☠BʘՏՏ wrote:
How can we overcome the racism if we don't talk about it? I think that's part of the problem.I predict this thread is going to end in all sorts of hurt feelings.
Those that believe Zimmerman is in whatever capacity justified will continue to believe so and those that believe Martin was wrongly killed will continue to believe so. Nothing will change either side.
Honestly I don't think any of this is at all racially fueled, the media injected race into this particular fiasco.
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Martin attacked him.
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I'd be willing to bet that the jury would have wanted to convict him for some reason. Everything Zimmerman did was legal (unfortunately) and they had to acquit based on "the facts". It really sucks IMO. Should be no arguments here based on emotion.
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The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
Martin was minding his own business. Zimmerman started this thing.Martin attacked him.
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Martin did attack him. it's been proven.
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It's a sad story.
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The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
Yes. After Zimmerman stalked him and confronted him. It's been proven.Martin did attack him. it's been proven.
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Boner Jams '03 wrote:
Agreed. Seems to me Zimmerman was looking for a fight. He was told NOT to approach Martin, but he did it anyway. I don't believe he truly intended to kill him, but the fact is a 17 year old is dead because of Zimmerman's actions and he will have to live/deal with that for the rest of his life. Is that enough payment for his actions? I don't know, but I don't think so. I feel he should make reparations of some kind.The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
Yes. After Zimmerman stalked him and confronted him. It's been proven.Martin did attack him. it's been proven.
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I think it's all to hyped up by the media.
What about all the other innocent people that get caught up between gang fights?
People get killed around the world on a daily basis, it's just not in the media.All comes down to the old saying "if one person dies its a tragedy, if a million die, it's just a statistic".
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Marilyn wrote:
All comes down to the old saying "if one person dies its a tragedy, if a million die, it's just a statistic".
Much like the 30 people who die on a daily basis (US only) due to unnatural/ preventable/ accidental causes
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The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
He was found "not guilty", not "innocent". The jury never said anything about his innocence, just that he wasn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.he's innocent .. It's been proven.
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Wyster wrote:
Zimmerman isn't some sort of Racist.
You obviously haven't read Zimmerman's anti-Mexican internet postings, then. Nor do you know who Zimmerman is. Here's a few facts. Zimmerman had been charged with multiple felonies previously, including an altercation with a police officer. He had the charges reduced. (His dad is a judge.) He also had a restraining order against him by his ex-fiance, who accused him of domestic abuse. He beat those accusations also. (Did I mention his dad is a judge?)
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The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
Martin attacked him.
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cocojones 1.5 wrote:
With you saying that I agree with you, if you remember when it was first being investigated he did stuff to earn money illegally and he was never charged with thatOverhyped but he still deserved to be charged with something I think
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Boner Jams '03 wrote:
The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
Yes. After Zimmerman stalked him and confronted him. It's been proven.Martin did attack him. it's been proven.
So what? You can't beat the shit out of everyone who harasses you on a public street- it's called assault. If you could, pretty women would be beating asses every day.
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YOU wrote:
Boner Jams '03 wrote:
The 4 Horsemen🐎 wrote:
Yes. After Zimmerman stalked him and confronted him. It's been proven.Martin did attack him. it's been proven.
So what? You can't beat the shit out of everyone who harasses you on a public street- it's called assault. If you could, pretty women would be beating asses every day.
Not that I agree with Zimmerman's actions, btw. He is an asshole. He just wasn't a law breaking asshole.
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Stalking is against the law.
Assault is against the law.
Murder is against the law.You can't claim self defense if you start the attack by law. Just because the defense got the judge to allow them not to inform the jury of that law, doesn't make it legitimate. The case should have been a mistrial on that note. But not in backasswards Florida. The prosecution was a giant failure in this case. They should have persued why there was zero DNA on Trayvon making it impossible for him to actually have beat Zimmerman up. You can't touch someone without getting DNA on you. And how us it Trayvons blood wasn't dropped all over Zimmerman if he was on top of him when he shot him? Ever heard of gravity?
Simply because he was found not guilty doesn't mean it's just or accurate.
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And if you think a judge can't influence a jury you're sadly mistaken - even if the judge isn't technically or legally involved in the trial.
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Definition of stalking in legal terms: A person who intentionally and repeatedly follows or harasses another person and who makes a credible threat.
It IS illegal to stalk someone. Too bad Martin wasn't stalked. At most, he was harassed and again- unfortunately, you can't legally attack everyone who harasses you.
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Weird
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Do you know how many people are murdered in ways similar to this? Why make this one a big deal?
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Also there is no law about watching someone doing something suspicious from a distance which is what Jorge (he's not white) was doing, until the self proclaimed thug on twitter snuck into the dark to hide and came up behind him... GG Jorge you made the right move and the courts showed it sorry if people here think they know more info then the judge and jury
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