✈Morbidly obese people on planes✈
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✮⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛✮ wrote:
I'm sorry. You are right. Better to make the rest of the world change for your convenience rather than force you to adjust in any way. I mean... These people shouldn't be allowed to be near you, and airlines should have to set policy for your specific coach-class comfort regardless of the profit loss.Does anything you say make sense? Right, we should change our careers so we can afford to pay double airfare because someone can't fit in a seat.
Why stop there? I'm 6'4". How dare they make the cheap seats too small for me! My knee is in the aisle being banged up by food carts! The world must accommodate my leg comfort! It's not fair!
Psh.
If another airline does it the way you like it for a price you think is fair, choose them. But if you go discount, don't expect luxury, arm space, refunds, or double peanuts.
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For airline tickets there should be a maximum size for the occupant, all visible up front when the ticket is purchased so their is no indignity of it being dealt with at a checkin desk or when boarding.
I've had my issues with some of the symptoms and causes mentioned above, the gym and a decent(ish) diet have done far more for my physical and mental well being than pizza, ice cream, chocolate and alcohol ever have. If I'm injured or have been too busy I find my mental health slides and I'm reaching for the junk again. Once you get started though I think it's quite easy to get hooked on your progress, beating your times/distances/reps/weight become the goal and weight comes off as a by-product. I found myself wanting to make further changes in my lifestyle and diet to help me progress with my fitness (like cutting out alcohol), so for me the key was not trying to change too much in one go.
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote: Actually, it was 101, 105, and 333. But I don't see why that's important. Obesity is a big problem. You don't need an education to see it.
Your airline comfort is a private industry profit issue; not a "big problem" for all of us.
Whether airlines make certain individuals buy extra seats is not up to you, legislators, social activists, or anyone but stakeholders in the airline business.
The framework of your original question is not about health care, death, food quality, emotional disease or anything but your personal convenience at the expense of someone else's.
To top it all off, later you say it's not that hard to fix morbid obesity itself, which is demeaning, ignorant, and simply wrong.
Your problem with obesity is your problem.
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lol 👆 Mr.Grumpy 😤
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Yogimu wrote:
lol 👆 Mr.Grumpy 😤
Some people are grumpy in general.
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Cj one thing I think you forgot is not everyone eats because they're just lazy and irresponsible. To touch on what Knight said he's very correct. Some people eat as an escape. A way to deal with issues. Food can be an addiction just like anything else. Like Smokey said we all self medicate. Just in different ways. Eating disorders are mental not just physical. Some people cope with smoking a couple bowls, others with a bottle of Jack. And yet others with a cheeseburger. Some people simply lack the self control to say no.
Some people (more than you'd think since one in four women will be sexually assaulted in our fair country) eat too much as a defense mechanism against abuse as a result of sexual assault/molestation. Wayyy less than that one in four, but probably a quarter of those....
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Cj one thing I think you forgot is not everyone eats because they're just lazy and irresponsible. To touch on what Knight said he's very correct. Some people eat as an escape. A way to deal with issues. Food can be an addiction just like anything else. Like Smokey said we all self medicate. Just in different ways. Eating disorders are mental not just physical. Some people cope with smoking a couple bowls, others with a bottle of Jack. And yet others with a cheeseburger. Some people simply lack the self control to say no. Then it becomes a self loathing issue. Obese people know they're obese but feel powerless to do anything about it. Then sink deeper into depression. Then cope by eating more. It's a vicious circle. Some simply can't break out of it without help.
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💋ẙɵҡɵ ɵɲɵ💋 wrote:
Darn I thought I deleted it quick enough lol. I hit post before I was done typing 😅༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Cj one thing I think you forgot is not everyone eats because they're just lazy and irresponsible. To touch on what Knight said he's very correct. Some people eat as an escape. A way to deal with issues. Food can be an addiction just like anything else. Like Smokey said we all self medicate. Just in different ways. Eating disorders are mental not just physical. Some people cope with smoking a couple bowls, others with a bottle of Jack. And yet others with ✂
Some people (more than you'd think since one in four women will be sexually assaulted in our fair country) eat too much as a defense mechanism against abuse as a result of sexual assault/molestation. Wayyy less than that one in four, but probably a quarter of those....
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Eating disorders are mental not just physical. Some people cope with smoking a couple bowls, others with a bottle of Jack. And yet others with a cheeseburger. Some people simply lack the self control to say no. Then it becomes a self loathing issue. Obese people know they're obese but feel powerless to do anything about it. Then sink deeper into depression. Then cope by eating more. It's a vicious circle. Some simply can't break out of it without help.
All joking aside, this is a good point and pretty much sums up the issue. Mental health care is desperately underfunded and the stigma attached to having a 'mental health' problem is usually the barrier. In our society is better to be considered fat than 'mental'.
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I don't disagree with all these causes, but we can point fingers all day. Nobody is doing anything about it, and if somebody does try, they're an asshole for calling people fat.
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
I don't disagree with all these causes, but we can point fingers all day. Nobody is doing anything about it, and if somebody does try, they're an asshole for calling people fat.
Because on a scale this large (parDon the pun) I don't think it's fair to point fingers at an individual. It's a societal problem. ESPECIALLY in our area, Hillbilly.
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote: Why not try to counter my argument instead of insulting my intelligence? That's how an intelligent conversation works.
Because you have yet to show a valid argument, or actually address the facts in from of you already.Up until this point you have yet to display ANY. Form of realisistic intelligence, so one might say the cap fits. Anything you've had to say since you posted this, is worthless in the sense you have already proven you're opinion is pretty much worthless nonsense driven by a pathetic need to try and make a name for yourself as a trolling little shit stirrer. I wish there was a more poetic way of putting it that you'd comprehend. Alas, words would likely fail you.
Good day to you.
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Wow, I would hate to depend on some of you compassionate people for common courtesy. I hate skinny people. They are a tiny waste of air. I b*tch slap them and tell them to go get me some skittles and an oversized rootbeer. Nothing worse than seeing a puny excuse for a man, sashe down the aisle in his skinny jeans knowing he is going to sit next to me and break out his copy of 50 shades of Grey. I personally think anyone under 175 should have to share a seat because they are only half a man anyway!
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⚜Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т⚜ wrote:
It makes a lot of sense. If somebody uses 2 seats, they should pay for 2 seats. It seems reasonable to me. As for making a name for myself on the forum, I couldn't care less. The forums are a fun way to talk to everybody, but most of my enjoyment comes from the game.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote: Why not try to counter my argument instead of insulting my intelligence? That's how an intelligent conversation works.
Because you have yet to show a valid argument, or actually address the facts in from of you already.Up until this point you have yet to display ANY. Form of realisistic intelligence, so one might say the cap fits. Anything you've had to say since you .
Ps.
Quit making long paragraphs that I have to edit to get under the character limit. My fat fingers make it difficult. -
Just to play devil's advocate, shouldn't we just let people who create their own health problems sort themselves out. Interfering in natural selection makes us weak as a species.
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Yogimu wrote:
Exactly. Some people feel that admitting they have a problem and seeking help means they're weak. Or people will judge them. And a lot of people automatically assume that if someone is talking to a therapist there's something terribly wrong with them and they must be crazy. Nothing wrong with seeking help. It's still going to the doctor. Just a different kind of doctor.༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Eating disorders are mental ✂
All joking aside, this is a good point and pretty much sums up the issue. Mental health care is desperately underfunded and the stigma attached to having a 'mental health' problem is usually the barrier. In our society is better to be considered fat than 'mental'.
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Sirtalkalot ur dad is cool bruh. 😎
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If an obese person needs to seats then he/she must pay for two, its not personal its just business.
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Big Stanky wrote:
Not everyone has to be skinny not to be fat. Your argument is very stereotypical. I have skinny friends, and they're great people. While I'm not skinny myself, I don't consider me to be fat or overweight at all. You act like these people with good eating habits and active lifestyles are creating problems for us. You also said that they should have to share a seat. But obese people shouldn't? Is this because they earned the privilege to their own seat through unhealthy life choices?✂
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
👆👌👏☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
I don't like people that complain about fat people on planes when all you have to do is fly first class.‡℟ɸɱⱥɲ☧ɭɇɠɩɸɳ‡ wrote:
It's their own fault in most cases. Exercising and eating healthy isn't that hard.Kind of sad though.... That is paying people extra for their probably biggest insecurity.
It's their own fault in most cases. Going to school and getting a decent income isn't that hard.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote: Why would you call making your flight experience more enjoyable "wasting money"? There are two options here. Bitch about how sucky the world is, or take an action to improve your life.
Around you and taking up half of your seat are two different things, sir.If you don't like the condition of the people around you, that's YOUR problem.
I do not have the cash to take first class everywhere I go, drink the finest wine, and eat the finest food.
I rarely bitch about anything, but after my last flight to Vegas I'm open to bitch about morbidly obese people and screaming/kicking babies.
It's aggravating when you're trapped between two enormous people, leaving you no room to move (together they took up half of my seat, I was friggin sitting sideways) and have two bum parents not giving a single fuck about their screaming children, one of which was kicking my seat.
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Add that to a two hour delay + flying against the wind makes a normally 5 and a half hour flight a trip through hell and back.
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Furthermore, asking me to go back to college and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a "superior education" is fucking bullshit just to deal with obese people.
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✮⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛✮ wrote:
I agree with brown note. Just pay for first class. No fatties, better seats, and also more enjoyable flight.Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
☪ƁƖɑϲĸƊɥɳɑɱɩʈɛ☪ wrote: Why should we waste money buying first class due to another person's problem?
Why would you call making your flight experience more enjoyable "wasting money"? There are two options here. Bitch about how sucky the world is, or take an action to improve your life.If you don't like the condition of the people around you, that's YOUR problem.
Does anything you say make sense? Right, we should change our careers so we can afford to pay double airfare because someone can't fit in a seat.
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as a related issue, what about the restrictions on weight of luggage- should the overweight have to pay more/take less luggage?
before anyone insults my credibility, all opinions expressed by me are my own, and while I have a thyroid disease which causes my metabolic rate to be very low and therefore weight gain, I manage to keep on the lower side of a healthy bmi.
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Jaeos wrote:
Luggage should be luggage. Prices of luggage shouldn't vary on the size of the person, unless if the person caries more luggage because they're overweight?as a related issue, what about the restrictions on weight of luggage- should the overweight have to pay more/take less luggage?
before anyone insults my credibility, all opinions expressed by me are my own, and while I have a thyroid disease which causes my metabolic rate to be very low and therefore weight gain, I manage to keep on the lower side of a healthy bmi.
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⌖🔥ωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ🔥⌖ wrote:
sorry, that wasn't expressed very well. what I meant was, should the net mass off the passenger (ie their mass plus luggage) be used as a basis of paying extra, rather than just luggage massJaeos wrote:
Luggage should be luggage. Prices of luggage shouldn't vary on the size of the person, unless if the person caries more luggage because they're overweight?as a related issue, what about the restrictions on weight of luggage- should the overweight have to pay more/take less luggage?
before anyone insults my credibility, all opinions expressed by me are my own, and while I have a thyroid disease which causes my metabolic rate to be very low and therefore weight gain, I manage to keep on the lower side of a healthy bmi.
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Jaeos wrote:
As long as its not encroaching on another passenger, I don't think that would be fair.⌖🔥ωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ🔥⌖ wrote:
sorry, that wasn't expressed very well. what I meant was, should the net mass off the passenger (ie their mass plus luggage) be used as a basis of paying extra, rather than just luggage massJaeos wrote:
Luggage should be luggage. Prices of luggage shouldn't vary on the size of the person, unless if the person caries more luggage because they're overweight?as a related issue, what about the restrictions on weight of luggage- should the overweight have to pay more/take less luggage?
before anyone insults my credibility, all opinions expressed by me are my own, and while I have a thyroid disease which causes my metabolic i.
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i remember seeing a news story years ago when the airlines were really struggling. a couple did look into weighing both passenger and luggage to try to offset high fuel costs. they decided it wouldnt be worth the bad press. i dont fly, has anyone ever seen this done?
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⌖🔥ωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ🔥⌖ wrote:
I know many obese people that are good people also. I'm not one but my sister has had issues her whole life. What I enjoy, being 6'5" 270 is identifying people that are bully's or that discriminate against others and try to inflict the same pain and discomfort
Upon them. Attitudes are individual expressions that serve idiosyncratic needs. It's not about their weight or space on a plane. It's about your preconceived assumptions.
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