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• Kidzofdaclub Feb 13, 2012

  How do we know if this is all real and true
• Brown🎵Note Feb 13, 2012

  ₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  The problem with these debates is that I inevitably bind myself with the rules of the opposing team... I try to beat them with their own rules.

  "What kind of infinitely loving and merciful God would inflict eternal torment on his own children?"

  ...when what I should be saying is:

  "You're talking to an invisible man in the sky, who seems to have focused his attention elsewhere for the last couple thousand years."
  

  http://vintage.aomin.org/EGO.html

  There he goes again. "This guy's web page is all educated-looking. I don't know what he's talking about, but he seems to have all the answers."
• ★ΛUGUSTINΞ★ Feb 13, 2012

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  ₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  The problem with these debates is that I inevitably bind myself with the rules of the opposing team... I try to beat them with their own rules.

  "What kind of infinitely loving and merciful God would inflict eternal torment on his own children?"

  ...when what I should be saying is:

  http://vintage.aomin.org/EGO.html

  There he goes again. "This guy's web page is all educated-looking. I don't know what he's talking about, but he seems to have all the answers."

  It actually does. It destroys the ancient dying dinosaur Myth about the Godhead and the deity of Christ. Like I said, this isn't news. I challenge you to give it a fair read.
• Brown🎵Note Feb 13, 2012

  The method used all those years ago to make the trinity the official doctrine of the Christian Curch should be raising flags in your heads.

  It was a debate. For ages. It was an all-out theological war.

  It wasn't certain then, and it can't be more certain now.

  All we see is the official propaganda of the Church of Rome hanging on century after century based on nothing more than a hunch hundreds of years after Jesus was killed.

  Wha?
• 〓BROOKLYNITE〓 Feb 13, 2012

  Whenever Jesus gets here your ass is grass Brown.
• ★ΛUGUSTINΞ★ Feb 13, 2012

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  The method used all those years ago to make the trinity the official doctrine of the Christian Curch should be raising flags in your heads.

  It was a debate. For ages. It was an all-out theological war.

  It wasn't certain then, and it can't be more certain now.

  All we see is the official propaganda of the Church of Rome hanging on century after century based on nothing more than a hunch hundreds of years after Jesus was killed.

  Wha?
  

  Yes truth was needed. Theological biblical truth. Do you have questions or is this a monologue?
• N_O_O_B Feb 13, 2012

  ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:

  Son of God, who came and die for all of our sins. He paid the price of atonement for our sins so we could go to Heaven.
  

  👆👆👆 this answer is right!!!
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Feb 13, 2012

  BROOKLYNITE™ wrote:

  Whenever Jesus gets here your ass is grass Brown.
  

  Nice all loving god there.
  We are using human nature of doubting something we haven't seen. It's instinct. Surely your all loving and all forgiving god will understand that and have enough love to forgive him.
• Brown🎵Note Feb 13, 2012

  ₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  The method used all those years ago to make the trinity the official doctrine of the Christian Curch should be raising flags in your heads.

  It was a debate. For ages. It was an all-out theological war.

  It wasn't certain then, and it can't be more certain now.

  All we see is the official propaganda of the Church of Rome hanging on century after century based on nothing more than a hunch hundreds of years after Jesus was killed.

  Wha?
  

  Yes truth was needed. Theological biblical truth. Do you have questions or is this a monologue?

  Exactly. You have no questions. Move along now.
• Aloo Feb 13, 2012

  Hyena wrote:

  🔥⌖Nate😲Dogg🔥⌖ ✌✌

  I would be happy if at the end we all got what we deserved based on how we have treated our peers rather than based on our beliefs.

  For example a Muslim who practices his religion, discusses his beliefs in a mature and open manner is welcome to his 40 virgins. One who murders innocents is not. This goes for everyone irrespective of their beliefs.
  

  40 virgins?
• Carpenter Feb 13, 2012

  Aloo wrote:

  Hyena wrote:

  🔥⌖Nate😲Dogg🔥⌖ ✌✌

  I would be happy if at the end we all got what we deserved based on how we have treated our peers rather than based on our beliefs.

  For example a Muslim who practices his religion, discusses his beliefs in a mature and open manner is welcome to his 40 virgins. One who murders innocents is not. This goes for everyone irrespective of their beliefs.
  

  40 virgins?

  70.
• ★Λddi★ Feb 13, 2012

  BROOKLYNITE™ wrote:

  Whenever Jesus gets here your ass is grass Brown.
  

  Judge not lest ye be judged.
• Aloo Feb 13, 2012

  Carpenter wrote:

  Aloo wrote:

  Hyena wrote:

  🔥⌖Nate😲Dogg🔥⌖ ✌✌

  I would be happy if at the end we all got what we deserved based on how we have treated our peers rather than based on our beliefs.

  For example a Muslim who practices his religion, discusses his beliefs in a mature and open manner is welcome to his 40 virgins. One who murders innocents is not. This goes for everyone irrespective of their beliefs.
  

  40 virgins?

  70.

  The only time the number is mentioned is once and that is apparently 2 wives for the second group to enter Heaven.
• ★ΛUGUSTINΞ★ Feb 13, 2012

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  ₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  The method used all those years ago to make the trinity the official doctrine of the Christian Curch should be raising flags in your heads.

  It was a debate. For ages. It was an all-out theological war.

  It wasn't certain then, and it can't be more certain now.

  All we see is the official propaganda of the Church of Rome hanging on century after century based on nothing more than a hunch hundreds of years after Jesus was killed.

  Wha?
  

  Yes truth was needed. Theological biblical truth. Do you have questions or is this a monologue?

  Exactly. You have no questions. Move along now.

  http://vintage.aomin.org/EGO.html
• ★ΛUGUSTINΞ★ Feb 13, 2012

  The person of Christ as presented in John's Gospel is indeed of an exceptionally high character - John asserts that Jesus is "the Word become flesh" (John 1:14). He says that this Word is eternal, has always been "with" God (pros ton theon) and indeed shares the very being of God (John 1:1). John describes Jesus as the unique God (monogenes theos) in John 1:18. He portrays Jesus saying that He is the way, the truth, and the life - that man's very life and salvation is dependent upon his relationship with Him (a claim nothing short of blasphemy for a mere created being!), and the Gospel climaxes in Thomas' confession of Jesus as his "Lord and God".
• ★ΛUGUSTINΞ★ Feb 13, 2012

  Though the evidences of the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ are numerous in this book, one set of these evidences has always fascinated theologians. Jesus utilizes the specific phrase ego eimi of Himself frequently in John's Gospel, and a number of times He does so in a pregnant way, not providing any immediately identifiable predicate. John's recording of these sayings is also significant, as he provides rather obvious settings for these sayings, emphasizing their importance. Is there a significance to this phrase? What is it's purpose and meaning? Does this phrase present yet another aspect of the Deity of Christ? This shall be the topic of the following investigation.
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Feb 13, 2012

  ₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  ₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  The method used all those years ago to make the trinity the official doctrine of the Christian Curch should be raising flags in your heads.

  It was a debate. For ages. It was an all-out theological war.

  It wasn't certain then, and it can't be more certain now.

  snip ;D

  Wha?
  

  Yes truth was needed. Theological biblical truth. Do you have questions or is this a monologue?

  Exactly. You have no questions. Move along now.

  http://vintage.aomin.org/EGO.html

  You know how you kept calling me stupid for replying with the cosmos all the time? Especially when it was the correct answer...
  Your doing it right now. Hypocrite....
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Feb 13, 2012

  And I've visited your website. Doesn't answer much.
• 〓BROOKLYNITE〓 Feb 14, 2012

  Λdོdོi wrote:

  BROOKLYNITE™ wrote:

  Whenever Jesus gets here your ass is grass Brown.
  

  Judge not lest ye be judged.

  I praise the true Son of God, born by a mortal virgin mother, and often presented as the venerated newborn infant, or depicted riding a donkey? He healed the sick and performed many miracles, among those making fine wine from plain water. He was killed but resurrected from the dead three days later to became immortal. The followers of this God often ate a holy meal in a kind of sacramental union with the deity to achieve immortality after their death. One of this god's finest achievements was his death, his sacrifice, which delivers the whole human kind to heaven.

  All hail Dionysus.
• ⌖ajc⌖ Feb 14, 2012

  Agent XX3 wrote:

  How do we know if this is all real and true
  

  The same thing you know that WW2 and WW1 happened.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  ᏣяλżɏVįқîиg wrote:

  glman wrote:

  A Christian could never follow the ten commandments perfectly, its a goal. A child has sin nature ingrained in him as does every human. Children don't fully understand what they're doing.
  

  Isnt it just as cruel to set unreachable goals, and have the power to choose how long they have to get as close as possible?
  

  The point is that they are unreachable, ill be the first to admit I'm not perfect, Jesus stepped in an makes us clean in god's eyes if we let him.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  Most non-Catholic Christians no longer look to the 10 commandments of Moses as law. Jesus replaced the old laws with a new covenant:

  1. Love god with your whole body, mind, and spirit.

  2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

  Remember the hassle they gave him about working on the Sabbath... OY VEY!!
  

  Wow. Thats actually true. The ten commandments cover the "love your neighbor" more specifically. That's why theyre taught.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Superyan wrote:

  glman wrote:

  Superyan wrote:

  Bruenor wrote:

  Children don't count. They don't fully understand and are automatically accepted into heaven, no matter what they're religion is teaching them
  

  Oh? But they have sinned?
  Children lie? Disrespect their parents with hissy fits when they don't get what they want.
  The ten commandments are broken by children.

  A Christian could never follow the ten commandments perfectly, its a goal. A child has sin nature ingrained in him as does every human. Children don't fully understand what they're doing.

  Yes... But they haven't accepted Jesus. As they haven't made the choice off their own accord.

  They aren't able to make the choice, as they don't understand it.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Add: KOZY wrote:

  What about tribes that still live in the bush that know nothing of the story of Jesus? Are they going to hell? Or were they forgiven when Jesus died as well?
  

  Everyone has the chance to accept Jesus in their life, whether it's by that name or not. The holy spirit works in mysterious ways.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Superyan wrote:

  Another question, if god is all knowing. Why didn't he know those laws were impossible to keep? That the standards he set were impossible?
  

  Again those laws were a forerunner to Jesus. Originally we were perfect. Jesus came to make heaven possible.
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Feb 14, 2012

  glman wrote:

  Superyan wrote:

  Another question, if god is all knowing. Why didn't he know those laws were impossible to keep? That the standards he set were impossible?
  

  Again those laws were a forerunner to Jesus. Originally we were perfect. Jesus came to make heaven possible.

  But we weren't perfect after adam and eve. Why didn't he send Jesus earlier? Instead he sent all those people trying their best to reach an impossible standard to hell.

  I hope you see where I'm coming from here.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:

  None-the-less, Augustine... The question remains. Wouldn't Jesus have himself mentioned at some point that he himself was Dog?
  

  John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Add: OLSEN wrote:

  glman wrote:

  Add: OLSEN wrote:

  I think I'm just gonna chill with my beliefs ATM. If my time comes and I come before god and he tells me I have it all wrong, I will get down on my knees and say sorry. A true and loving god would forgive me.
  

  He gave you however long you live to say you're sorry. There is a point where forgiveness ends and there are no more chances.

  Sorry to me that is just garbage. You are not god so you can not say where his forgiveness ends. A truly loving god would accept his childs lack of understanding and accept his apology. A vengeful, hateful god would do as you have said. So which of those is your god?

  God is holy, he cant live with sin. He gave us a huge book full of teaching and insight. He offers us a completely free ticket into heaven as long as we take it. That's not hateful at all.
• glman Feb 14, 2012

  Superyan wrote:

  glman wrote:

  Superyan wrote:

  Another question, if god is all knowing. Why didn't he know those laws were impossible to keep? That the standards he set were impossible?
  

  Again those laws were a forerunner to Jesus. Originally we were perfect. Jesus came to make heaven possible.

  But we weren't perfect after adam and eve. Why didn't he send Jesus earlier? Instead he sent all those people trying their best to reach an impossible standard to hell.

  I hope you see where I'm coming from here.
  

  Yeah, I'll respond in a bit (dinner time)
• Brown🎵Note Feb 14, 2012

  Somebody explain the biblical basis for the trinity without once mentioning the obviousl apocrypha of John. You can't reference a guy's dreams in a research work.

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