Abortion
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
The problem is people have too much sex outside of marriage. Society today encourages sex making a sex-happy generation causing unwanted pregnancies.How it helps society is by slowing down the expansion of our already desperate population problem. Since its not yet a sentient human being I see no reason that abortion shouldn't be allowed
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Aubergine wrote:
That's incorrect. We make only 10% human consumption corn. The rest goes to livestock, etc. and one problem with the US is the damn illegal immigrants.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote: USA population is still much too high. We are running out of resources quickly
We in the US actually have no problem with resources. There is plenty to go around. Sometimes we may not allocate those resources in the most efficient ways, but we have enough. US produces and exports more corn than the rest of the world combined. Corn is used in practically every product we eat. If we had problems feeding people, we could just give them corn. USA is actually slightly bigger than China, with 1 billion less people. So we have plenty of space to go around as well. Abortion may be a valid issue to discuss, but you can't claim it's necessary due to resource constraints. -
Also the fetus' who are being aborted tend to be of one-parent house holds and tend to live in dangerous city where crime is rampant.
There is a direct co-relation between abortion rates and (about 15-20yrs later) lower crime rates. Fact. -
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
How many children do you know lived a horrible life? Who are you to decide for them? "It's their own body".💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Most children who go up for adoption are never adopted. They just get raised by the system and most generally have horrible livesHere's my look on it, if you get an abortion your MURDERING a baby, why not wait for it to be born and then give it up for adoption. So I'm against it because it is murder.
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Funny how everyone avoids all my comments... Take a look, would ya? ⬆
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⌖ajc⌖ wrote:
So? Sex is the second most prominent instinct. All medical doctors agree that sexuality is absolutely essential to have a healthy life. So now you're saying someone should not have a healthy life because they weren't lucky enough to be married?⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
The problem is people have too much sex outside of marriage. Society today encourages sex making a sex-happy generation causing unwanted pregnancies.How it helps society is by slowing down the expansion of our already desperate population problem. Since its not yet a sentient human being I see no reason that abortion shouldn't be allowed
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
It's still a separate living thing from the motherJRaff wrote:
Abortion is done very early. Usually it hasn't develoPed into anything remotely human yet.madam wrote:
God says he knows the baby. Or you say the parasite.conceptionHow do we know there is a god. Should a non believer be forced to obey the rules of your religion? Should their entire life be ruined because of bronze age superstition?
No. But abortion isn't just about God, they get their own thoughts and they have their own heartbeat
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Aubergine wrote:
Exacty. Maternal mortality is at less than one percent in the developed world.Belial, while I may agree with you that taxes shouldn't pay for abortions, and I have no opinion whether they should be legal or not, your arguments are awful. You are actually hurting your own cause with all the hogwash you spew. Very few women survive pregnancy? Come on, man. You're smarter than that.
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⌖ajc⌖ wrote:
Not when they are aborted it isn't. They are part of the mother. They are technically speakin a parasite as they take resources and nutrition and give nothing back⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
How many children do you know lived a horrible life? Who are you to decide for them? "It's their own body".💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Most children who go up for adoption are never adopted. They just get raised by the system and most generally have horrible livesHere's my look on it, if you get an abortion your MURDERING a baby, why not wait for it to be born and then give it up for adoption. So I'm against it because it is murder.
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LongShot15 wrote:
It's better than not growing up at all⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
YOUR mom choose to have you she had a choice to get rid of you..You want a kid to feel the pain of growing up and your mommy not wanting you??💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Most children who go up for adoption are never adopted. They just get raised by the system and most generally have horrible livesHere's my look on it, if you get an abortion your MURDERING a baby, why not wait for it to be born and then give it up for adoption. So I'm against it because it is murder.
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Aubergine wrote:
Late term abortion isn't very common⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Haven't you ever heard of late-term abortion? Oh, and until 2003, partial birth abortions were legal.JRaff wrote:
Abortion is done very early. Usually it hasn't develoPed into anything remotely human yet.madam wrote:
God says he knows the baby. Or you say the parasite.conceptionHow do we know there is a god. Should a non believer be forced to obey the rules of your religion? Should their entire life be ruined because of bronze age superstition?
No. But abortion isn't just about God, they get their own thoughts and they have their own heartbeat
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Do you know how absolutely selfish you sound? "...sexuality is absolutely essential to having a healthy lifestyle." "...pregnancy is a very painful experience..." When society only thinks about themself, this is what you get. Abortion.
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ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
110% agree. It's very selfish. Ironic for all the people going for abortion are alive.Yeah I think the life of the child is equal to hers, at least. Gosh do you know how absolutely selfish that sounds. "I got myself into this mess, but since I want to continue the life as I know it, I'm going to call my unborn baby a parasite or mass of undeveloped tissue and kill it. That makes it alright, because instead of thinking of the baby and the wonderful life it could have, I only want to think about myself, and the life I'm going to continue having, not to mention all the pain and hassle of childbirth. I want to go back to my original life, will probably result in this happening again." If you have any other thought processes that would defend your beliefs, please, post them now, or forever hold your peace.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
That makes not senseHere's my take. I'm pro choice. First off its the woman's body and she should have the option on how her bodily matters are handled. Second off its actually good for society
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
You do know a baby's blood is separate from the mothers? This makes it independent, except they get nutrition from the mother.⌖ajc⌖ wrote:
Not when they are aborted it isn't. They are part of the mother. They are technically speakin a parasite as they take resources and nutrition and give nothing back⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
How many children do you know lived a horrible life? Who are you to decide for them? "It's their own body".💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Most children who go up for adoption are never adopted. They just get raised by the system and most generally have horrible lives.
So if two conjoined twins were born, one has the right to kill the other?
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Then everyone was a parasite once including the mother⌖ajc⌖ wrote:
Not when they are aborted it isn't. They are part of the mother. They are technically speakin a parasite as they take resources and nutrition and give nothing back⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
How many children do you know lived a horrible life? Who are you to decide for them? "It's their own body".💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Most children who go up for adoption are never adopted. They just get raised by the system and most generally have horrible livesHere's my look on it, if you get an abortion your MURDERING a baby, why not wait for it to be born and then give it up for adoption. So I'm against it because it is murder.
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ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
You can't argue against medical scienceDo you know how absolutely selfish you sound? "...sexuality is absolutely essential to having a healthy lifestyle." "...pregnancy is a very painful experience..." When society only thinks about themself, this is what you get. Abortion.
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So Belial and all you others, does that mean that if your mom ha aborted you, then you would have been perfectly dine with it? If humans desperately cling to their own state of life, then let's put it in your perspective. Surely you have had fun in you life, as well as sorrow. I don't see you guys attempting suicide, so you obviously like the fun times, along with the bad. So if you could never experience joy, or sorrow, how would you like it?
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glman wrote:
How does it not make sense. I explained how it's good for society. It helps keep the population down and encourages the mother to have a more productive life⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
That makes not senseHere's my take. I'm pro choice. First off its the woman's body and she should have the option on how her bodily matters are handled. Second off its actually good for society
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JRaff wrote:
That's you thenLongShot15 wrote:
It's better than not growing up at all⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
YOUR mom choose to have you she had a choice to get rid of you..You want a kid to feel the pain of growing up and your mommy not wanting you??💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Most children who go up for adoption are never adopted. They just get raised by the system and most generally have horrible livesHere's my look on it, if you get an abortion your MURDERING a baby, why not wait for it to be born and then give it up for adoption. So I'm against it because it is murder.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Medical science?!! What medical science?!! The science of finding ways to kill an unborn baby?!! Medicine is suppose to heal, not kill! So how do you people justify this as "medical science?!!!"ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
You can't argue against medical scienceDo you know how absolutely selfish you sound? "...sexuality is absolutely essential to having a healthy lifestyle." "...pregnancy is a very painful experience..." When society only thinks about themself, this is what you get. Abortion.
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ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Would you do it? The baby isn't developed yet the baby lives on your decisionYeah I think the life of the child is equal to hers, at least. Gosh do you know how absolutely selfish that sounds. "I got myself into this mess, but since I want to continue the life as I know it, I'm going to call my unborn baby a parasite or mass of undeveloped tissue and kill it. That makes it alright, because instead of thinking of the baby and the wonderful life it could have, I only want to think about myself, and the life I'm going to continue having, not to mention all the pain and hassle of childbirth. I want to go back to my original life, will probably result in this happening again." If you have any other thought processes that would defend your beliefs, please, post them now, or forever hold your peace.
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ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
I would've been perfectly fine with never having existed. As a matter of fact I wouldn't have known the differenceSo Belial and all you others, does that mean that if your mom ha aborted you, then you would have been perfectly dine with it? If humans desperately cling to their own state of life, then let's put it in your perspective. Surely you have had fun in you life, as well as sorrow. I don't see you guys attempting suicide, so you obviously like the fun times, along with the bad. So if you could never experience joy, or sorrow, how would you like it?
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To go along with Shadow's selfishness point:
You and a man are walking along the street. The man suddenly gets shot in the heart. You call 911 and the ambulance arrives. The paramedics hop out, and put him on a gurney. Then one of the paramedics tells you that the man will have a 99% chance of living with a bad heart, but the man really wants to live a normal live again, so he needs your heart. You will not survive, but the man will live a normal life. Against your will, the paramedics cut you open, take you heart and throw you in a nearby dumpster.
It's the same as abortion. -
Right you've been raped.
Oh no! Your pregnant with your rapists baby. Imagine looking at that baby everyday seeing the rapists face. Oh the memories that baby will remind you of!
Now your going suffer painful as you give birth to a baby you were forced to have. Yay!
You are now paying for this rape babe. Splendid!
Put it up for adoption? Congrats! Now everyone is paying for your rape baby.
That's my view on this subject. -
I have to go. I'll come back later.
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No one answered the rape question
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LongShot15 wrote:
No I would not flippin do it!! It is a LIFE people!!! A LIFE!!!ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Would you do it? The baby isn't developed yet the baby lives on your decisionYeah I think the life of the child is equal snip. Gosh do you know how absolutely selfish that sounds. "I got myself into this mess, but since I want to continue the life as I know it, I'm going to call my unborn baby a parasite or mass of undeveloped tissue and kill it. That makes it alright, because instead of thinking of the baby and the wonderful life it could have, I only want to think about myself, and the life I'm going to continue having, not to mention all the pain and hassle of childbirth. I want to go back to my original life, will probably result in this happening again." If you have any other thought processes that would defend your beliefs, please, post them now, or forever hold your peace.
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LongShot15 wrote:
It's not your decision. It's God's. Who gave you the right to decide who lives or not?ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Would you do it? The baby isn't developed yet the baby lives on your decision.
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Aubergine wrote:
America throws away enough food to feed the worldZebulon Pike wrote:
Don't turn this into a corn debate. The 10% is the amount corn represents out of all of our agricultural exports. Check your facts again, and start a new thread about corn and immigrants. This one is for abortion.Aubergine wrote:
That's incorrect. We make only 10% human consumption corn. The rest goes to livestock, etc. and one problem with the US is the damn illegal immigrants.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote: USA population quickly
Sometimes we may not allocate those resources in the most efficient ways, but we have enough. US produces and exports more corn than the rest of the world combined. Corn is used in practically every product we eat.
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