A question for deep thinkers and simple thinkers!
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Hmmm
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Only God knows the answer this one
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Question now is which god or what?? I'm confused??
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Kozy wrote:
But you're saying that the fact, or law, that laws are not absolute is absolute, thereby contradicting yourself.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
Scroll down and read the definitions, mainly 6a.
Law is not absolute. -
Idiot wanna-be philosophers go home.
There is only one true point of view. There has always been only one true point of view, and not nobody and not no thing sees from it. We can only imagine its existence.
It's called stark reality, that exists plainly with or without our feeble minds around.
Reality means nothing, knows nothing, sees nothing. It doesn't care about us, the tiniest itchy infestation on a clump of hot dust. It cares for nothing. And one "day" when reality is through, we will have appeared and vanished long long ago as if we never existed at all. Everything we do, from the crap you took this morning to the greatest achievement of mankind means absolutely dick from reality.
We make up every other point of view because we don't like the real one.
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Totalpirate3 wrote:
Kozy wrote:
But you're saying that the fact, or law, that laws are not absolute is absolute, thereby contradicting yourself.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
Scroll down and read the definitions, mainly 6a.
Law is not absolute. -
bye🎵 wrote:
This is called a red herring fallacy because its ignoring the question and goes on about something irrelevantIdiot wanna-be philosophers go home.
There is only one true point of view. There has always been only one true point of view, and not nobody and not no thing sees from it. We can only imagine its existence.
It's called stark reality, that exists plainly with or without our feeble minds around.
Reality means nothing, knows nothing, sees nothing. It doesn't care about us, the tiniest itchy infestation on a clump of hot dust. It cares for nothing. And one "day" when reality is through, we will have appeared and vanished long long ago as if we never existed at all. Everything we do, from the crap you took this morning to the greatest achievement of mankind means absolutely dick from reality.
We make up every other point of view because we don't like the real one.
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Deep thinking is an essential way to understand ourselves. But we come to understand those questions we cannot answer by letting go and allowing a more simplistic view of life take us through.
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❂иэЋцмв฿дѕтдя₫ wrote:
If that is for you to decide then you would have no objection to someone saying 1+1=6. Am I right?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Back to the questions.What do you believe?
Do the Laws of logic exist and are they absolute?
Logic and absolutes? The only logic and absolutes that exist for me are those I accept into my reality. The reality that exists beyond the boundary of my skin. Does 1+1 always equal 2, regardless of time, place, etc.? Maybe yes, maybe no. That is for me to decide for myself as it is for you to decide for yourself.
As for what I believe? I believe I will make enchiladas for dinner. Chicken, beef and pork.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote: This is called a red herring fallacy because its ignoring the question and goes on about something irrelevant
And that's called self-centered arrogant stupidity, incapable of any disassociative thought whatsoever.
Your question is pointless. That's the point.
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💋Karma💋 wrote:
What is life then? Plants are alive but don't have a mind, or do they and we just dont realize its something else completely that we dont understand because there is no brain. They search out water and grow towards the sun. Do dogs and cats have spirits? What about insects? Are there insects in heaven? Or only people go to heaven?Kozy, as someone who believes in an afterlife (without going further into detail)...
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Only so far as we know within the given set of circumstances. If our knowledge grows or the circumstances change then they become something else. Not absoluteKozy wrote:
So they are absolute.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
Scroll down and read the definitions, mainly 6a.
Law is not absolute. -
bye🎵 wrote:
Lol I agree brown. I believe we exist here and now. That's it. And one day the universe will reset and maybe after a long enough time the universe will get to a state of low entropy. And start over.Idiot wanna-be philosophers go home.
There is only one true point of view. There has always been only one true point of view, and not nobody and not no thing sees from it. We can only imagine its existence.
It's called stark reality, that exists plainly with or without our feeble minds around.
Reality means nothing, knows nothing, sees nothing. It doesn't care about us, the tiniest itchy infestation on a clump of hot dust. It cares for nothing. And one "day" when reality is through, we will have appeared and vanished long long ago as if we never existed at all. Everything we do, from the crap you took this morning to the greatest achievement of mankind means absolutely dick from reality.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
No I'm not. Because nowhere in my understanding does law include being absolute. So absolutely, laws are not absolute. That's linear not circular. If your own understanding includes that law is absolute then yes contradiction.Totalpirate3 wrote:
Kozy wrote:
But you're saying that the fact, or law, that laws are not absolute is absolute, thereby contradicting yourself.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
Scroll down and read the definitions, mainly 6a.
Law is not absolute. -
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
1 (pack of fererro rocher)+1(pack of fererro rocher)=6 chocolates.❂иэЋцмв฿дѕтдя₫ wrote:
If that is for you to decide then you would have no objection to someone saying 1+1=6. Am I right?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Back to the questions.What do you believe?
Do the Laws of logic exist and are they absolute?
Logic and absolutes? The only logic and absolutes that exist for me are those I accept into my reality. The reality that exists beyond the boundary of my skin. Does 1+1 always equal 2, regardless of time, place, etc.? Maybe yes, maybe no. That is for me to decide for myself as it is for you to decide for yourself.
As for what I believe? I believe I will make enchiladas for dinner. Chicken, beef and pork.
🅾👎🅱
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Are we talking about logic or arithmetic?
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bye🎵 wrote:
without logic you couldn't have arithmeticAre we talking about logic or arithmetic?
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Kozy wrote:
So 3+3=6? I would agree then₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
1 (pack of fererro rocher)+1(pack of fererro rocher)=6 chocolates.❂иэЋцмв฿дѕтдя₫ wrote:
If that is for you to decide then you would have no objection to someone saying 1+1=6. Am I right?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Back to the questions.What do you believe?
Do the Laws of logic exist and are they absolute?
Logic and absolutes? The only logic and absolutes that exist for me are those I accept into my reality. The reality that exists beyond the boundary of my skin. Does 1+1 always equal 2, regardless of time, place, etc.? Maybe yes, maybe no. That is for me to decide for myself as it is for you to decide for yourself.
pork.
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Kozy wrote:
This is the wrong thread for that. Perhaps I'll have to create one in order explain further how we can arrive to conclusions about the afterlife. We talking about logic now💋Karma💋 wrote:
What is life then? Plants are alive but don't have a mind, or do they and we just dont realize its something else completely that we dont understand because there is no brain. They search out water and grow towards the sun. Do dogs and cats have spirits? What about insects? Are there insects in heaven? Or only people go to heaven?Kozy, as someone who believes in an afterlife (without going further into detail)...
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YOU wrote:
❂иэЋцмв฿дѕтдя₫ wrote:
But I think I'm waiting for an answer. if these laws of absolute are subject to change. If they are then it is "impossible" for any of them be a law.You are missing the point ₲ʉṣ. It does not take a "great mind" or "deep thinker" to accept that 1+1=2. That's low hanging fruit. Heck, "great minds" once agreed that our Earth is flat and our Sun revolves around it. Accept the simple notion that most of the limits you encounter are those you impose on yourself and you will take the first step on the path to wisdom.
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Brown is right. The question is pointless. Wannabe philosophy
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💀DEATH💀 wrote:
It's not a pointless question hahaha... It's a foundational question and one That many are afraid of answering for various reasons.Brown is right. The question is pointless. Wannabe philosophy
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
It's a simple question made complex by blow-hards.💀DEATH💀 wrote:
It's not a pointless question hahaha... It's a foundational question and one That many are afraid of answering for various reasons.Brown is right. The question is pointless. Wannabe philosophy
Reality is. It doesn't care what you think. Models are man made and separate from reality. That means mathematics and logic are all bunk. A failed attempt to predict reality.
Bunk I say!
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
I was responding to SacDaddy, not answering the question.Mystery wrote:
This theory begs the question. I exist therefore I exist... Circular reasoning and proves nothingSacDaddy wrote:
Solipsism?Been down this road... Spent like a year convinced we were living in a simulation... I only think simple thoughts now...
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The only absolute I know is in the one who made the laws. All else is theoretic
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Mystery wrote:
I assume that your comment to sac was relavent to the question. There were some responses relavent to yours as well₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
I was responding to SacDaddy, not answering the question.Mystery wrote:
This theory begs the question. I exist therefore I exist... Circular reasoning and proves nothingSacDaddy wrote:
Solipsism?Been down this road... Spent like a year convinced we were living in a simulation... I only think simple thoughts now...
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bye🎵 wrote:
So your saying we need to set aside logic,math and science to live out reality? Why should anyone accept that kind of thinking? Thanks! Good perspectives my friends!!!₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
It's a simple question made complex by blow-hards.💀DEATH💀 wrote:
It's not a pointless question hahaha... It's a foundational question and one That many are afraid of answering for various reasons.Brown is right. The question is pointless. Wannabe philosophy
Reality is. It doesn't care what you think. Models are man made and separate from reality. That means mathematics and logic are all bunk. A failed attempt to predict reality.
Bunk I say!
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Chaplin wrote:
Right. I'll have to continue this question to the next thread.The only absolute I know is in the one who made the laws. All else is theoretic
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Kozy wrote:
So when we are given curtain circumstances than we make sense that the laws of logic are absolute?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Only so far as we know within the given set of circumstances. If our knowledge grows or the circumstances change then they become something else. Not absoluteKozy wrote:
So they are absolute.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
Scroll down and read the definitions, mainly 6a.
Law is not absolute. -
i think there for i am
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