Health Care Reform. Good or Bad?
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nick wrote:
because of the taxes on them the teen obortions and spread of aids through pre marrigle sex in teens and adultsNo matter which side of the debate you're on, you have to ponder the question:
Why does America pay 2X what other industrialized countries pay per person, yet still have lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, and rank #37th in the world for health care quality?
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T Bock wrote:
socialized healthcare has existed in prospering countries for decades: england. Poland. France. Spain. Italy. All of europe. Oh and we see the euro is soon to be worthtwice as much as the dollar! Oh my how America is prospering with it's ten trillion dollar deficit, and growing!🔱Bart🔱 (Add Bart) wrote:
Yes. Also socialism is a step towards communism... It's happened to other countries and if we socialize health care then it will continue to snowball and soon the govornment will be socializing everything.Well if America wasn't so stubborn and if they just accepted a totally socialized healthcare system, then healthcare, in the sense of doc visits, prescriptions, aids, etc. Would be free, it would just result in an addition of tax. Man Up America.
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RPL wrote:
T Bock wrote:
🔱Bart🔱 (Add Bart) wrote:
Yes. Also socialism is a step towards communism... It's happened to other countries and if we socialize health care then it will continue to snowball and soon the govornment will be socializing everything.Well if America wasn't so stubborn and if they just accepted a totally socialized healthcare system, then healthcare, in the sense of doc visits, prescriptions, aids, etc. Would be free, it would just result in an addition of tax. Man Up America.
Socialism does not lead to communism.... On the ideological scale yes, it is a step "towards" communism, but to assume that having a few social services implemented would make a nation vulnerable to communism is a little bit of fear-mongering no?
Indeed rpl. Thanks for clarifying this to the ignorant people.
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Hey. This is also about human rights to health care based on the fact that it's so expensive in the us... Uk has an amasing service; don't beleive the corrupt private industry backed statesmen; gee u yanks probably still think we landed on the moon 😜😜😜😜
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redcloud wrote:
And you think we didn't land on the moon? Also the good salaries of doctors what you say is "corrupt" is what keeps motivation and draws kids into wanting to be them. Also we have the best and newest medical care here. The technology we come up with and yes it's USA for the most part that's doing it.Hey. This is also about human rights to health care based on the fact that it's so expensive in the us... Uk has an amasing service; don't beleive the corrupt private industry backed statesmen; gee u yanks probably still think we landed on the moon 😜😜😜😜
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T Bock wrote:
I'm from the U.S. And I know we didn't go to the moon (I know people are going to argue with me but I don't care). They have proved multiple times that we have not gone to the moon. During the cold war the Russians were the first to go into space so America had to one upredcloud wrote:
And you think we didn't land on the moon? Also the good salaries of doctors what you say is "corrupt" is what keeps motivation and draws kids into wanting to be them. Also we have the best and newest medical care here. The technology we come up with and yes it's USA for the most part that's doing it.
them so we came up with some bull crap that we landed on the moon. If
any one has any questions about this just ask me or look it up but if you look it up you are going to find sites that say we did and others saying we didn't. -
T Bock wrote:
When and how is being born in Russia make someones views less important?Ok so let's get this strait... You think that the way the govornment works is by not listening to the people? Are you from Russia? .
This is an example of the prejudice between America and Russia, I was born in Russia and saw prejudice against America, and until I moved to Britian I didn't realise how strong and stupid these feelings were.
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The fact of the matter is that the United States needs to go back to it's roots to ensure a better future. For all of those who are hating on America right now, there is a reason why people by the millions come to this great nation for an opportunity at a better life. Can we do things better? Absolutely we can. This healthcare bill is NOT th way to do it!
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T Bock wrote: Have you ever had a family member die? Well fuck them cause they arnt here anymore!! They can go to hell!
too far, you're exaggerating too much.
All the respect I have for you as an opposite debater has almost burned completely. A debate is controlled, little emotion, lots of facts. -
T Bock wrote:
I don't know why but every debate over Obama ends up with some american playing the trump card:RPL wrote:
Once you get into socialism and start passing bill it will just continue to grow and grow. I'm saying that if the people continue to allow this to happen then we are all introuble.T Bock wrote:
🔱Bart🔱 (Add Bart) wrote:
Socialism does not lead to communism.... On the ideological scale yes, it is a step "towards" communism, but to assume that having a few social services implemented would make a nation vulnerable to communism is a little bit of fear-mongering no?
He's leading us to communism
or such like...
Well to be honest Americans worry far too much about comunism, it has died out and won't happen in America… -
To much math I hate it
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El Borges wrote:
Ok that's great... Any other insight that the whole world knows? And I think your a bitch for saying fuck the people who created this country and made the documents that keep it free. Also it seemed to me that you prefer Obama thinks over what our founders did. And here's your "emotion" as you say... Obama is a dumbass compared to them and so are you for thinking he's smarter.T Bock wrote: Have you ever had a family member die? Well fuck them cause they arnt here anymore!! They can go to hell!
too far, you're exaggerating too much.
All the respect I have for you as an opposite debater has almost burned completely. A debate is controlled, little emotion, lots of facts. -
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France is ranked number one is healthcare quality. They have socialized healthcare. America is in the higher thirties. That is a big diff
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I feel like I just wandered into a heated barfight. You're all drunk with emotion and nobody's listening to facts. It's funny. Good-day
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🔱Bart🔱 (Add Bart) wrote:
Everyone brings this up... I've got it already. But it's America leading in medical science. And with socialized health care doctors will get paid less and loose motivation because they all get paid the same lower salaries. Why would you work hard if in the end you will be getting the same as that slacker? Also don't bring up France, they may have good health care but that's all that has to be good there... They have lost every war they have been in.France is ranked number one is healthcare quality. They have socialized healthcare. America is in the higher thirties. That is a big diff
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CrackaMike wrote:
Well I don't think I could have continued my life without hearing that! Thank you very much for being a dumbass and posting for no reason at all. Cause guess what, you just joined in on that "heated bar fight". And maybe you should do a bit more than critisize because what you said means nothing besides you don't know what to post exept you don't know what to say. So you just critisize and say that we don't.I feel like I just wandered into a heated barfight. You're all drunk with emotion and nobody's listening to facts. It's funny. Good-day
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Bet that one drags him in...⬆
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El_D3ABL0 wrote:
I wouldn't blame you... You seem pretty dull. 😜.To much math I hate it
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ecrusher wrote:
Just awesomenick wrote:
because of the taxes on them the teen obortions and spread of aids through pre marrigle sex in teens and adultsNo matter which side of the debate you're on, you have to ponder the question:
Why does America pay 2X what other industrialized countries pay per person, yet still have lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, and rank #37th in the world for health care quality?
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