🇯🇵Meltdown Imminent!!!🇯🇵
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Let me lay out my attitude so that everyone might understand.
Natural != Good
Man-Made != Bad
Man = Natural
Man-Made = Natural
Fission is natural. We pile up all the little bits that ARE HAPPENING ALL AROUND US NATURALLY, and remove the extraneous junk as much as possible. We amass large amounts of it in one location to capture it's natural particle energy in the form of heat.
Not unlike a wind farm, or better yet the mirror array out in the desert that melts salt by capturing solar energy and concentrating it. Quite deadly if you stood at the focal point.
What pisses me off is that you put rock above humans. You do it automatically. It IS possible to realize that humans are just gnats without glorifying the dead matter we live on.
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slugboy wrote:
That is awesome. And it must be wholesome and pure because it's 100% natural!Just out of interest, look up the oklo natural nuclear reactor. Very interesting from a geological pov.
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fagan wrote:
Yes, nuclear power isn't natural...
really? I thought that nuclear energy is what has fueled the planet for billions of years. I thought we were made of star stuff.
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My prayers for the people of Japan. 🙏
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Brown Note👊🔨💀 wrote:
this is pretty much what I tell myself on a regular basis to keep from ego and depression alike.The Earth is a pile of rock and metal, and we are bacteria infecting it for an extremely brief period of time.
So have fun living your short, meaningless life in anguish over the damage we are doing to a temporary rock.
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#3 reactor has exploded. No news on what type of explain.
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*explosion
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They push the pressure in the outer containment walls as far as possible to avoid releasing radioactive steam. If they don't release enough of it, and there is structural damage, the outer walls explode from the pressure. The main containment vessel is claimed to be intact on both reactors.
Of course this means there is no 3rd pressure holding tank, and more steam will be released to the air.
The fuel is covered with sea water to cool it until power can be restored to the cooling pumps. If the water level drops below the fuel, there could be enough heat to "meltdown" the reactor.
Apparently, the generators were in a basement facility, which of course was flooded by the tsunami. Without electricity, there is no way to pump coolant.
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I can't help but think of the workers in those power plants, scrambling to keep everything cool and contained. Their lives are in extreme danger. Many were injured in this last explosion.
They are exposed to large amounts of radiation, pressure, and heat, and will be lucky to survive.
If they abandon the facility, I imagine the worst would happen.
This is the definition of heroism... Risking their lives to protect others.
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I personally think it's time we start investing and researching hydrogen power. Pretty much a limitless source. Produces water as a byproduct, so no harm there. Unfortunatly, it's not ready for mass production because of costs and practicallity. Hoping some day we'll rely on just wind, solar, dams, and hydrogen power.
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Iggy 🌊 wrote:
Fuel cells have been around for a hundred years. They are good for small applications, but I can't imagine them used on a scale that would power an entire town or city.I personally think it's time we start investing and researching hydrogen power. Pretty much a limitless source. Produces water as a byproduct, so no harm there. Unfortunatly, it's not ready for mass production because of costs and practicallity. Hoping some day we'll rely on just wind, solar, dams, and hydrogen power.
The problem is that it takes more energy to make the fuel than what you get out of it, and you have a bomb (highly pressurized fuel tank) to worry about.
Fusion would be the ultimate power source, but so far, we are at a net energy loss, just like fuel cells.
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Brown Note you seem to be knowledgable about all this. What happens if there is a meltdown...nuclear material gets in the atmosphere jet stream....what about acid rain and such....how would that effect people and animals...my prayers go out to all in Japan and the surrounding areas.
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☫ℤℑ⅁ℤÅ⅁☫ wrote:
I'm not terribly worried for North America. The Japanese used the jetstream in world war two to drop bombs from unmanned balloons on North America, which is where the fear comes from, I think. However, we have to remember we detonated 2 bombs over there, throwing a lot of high altitude material, and it wasn't a problem here. Not to mention all the tests we did 90 miles from Las Vegas.Brown Note you seem to be knowledgable about all this. What happens if there is a meltdown...nuclear material gets in the atmosphere jet stream....what about acid rain and such....how would that effect people and animals...my prayers go out to all in Japan and the surrounding areas.
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I think any fallout will be easily mitigated here. Japan will be in trouble. Chernobyl was frankly fortunate that it happened in a large country. The people were relocated, the roads were closed, signs posted, and that's it. At this point, the forest has taken over again.
But Japan is very small in comparison. If there is a meltdown, a large percentage of their Island will be uninhabitable, and the effects on the population will be worse I think. I don't think fishing will be hurt, but agriculture will. Transportation will be cut to the north, infrastructure will have to accommodate the huge gap in the land... It's horrifying.
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I have a close Friend on the Regan.... They just found some Radiation on one of the choppers and a few of the crew. Not sure the extent of the exposure..... Scary Stuff!
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\\// 👊🔨💀 wrote:
I heard they reported that cleanup was "easy". They are prepared for it. Part of the CBR attack training.I have a close Friend on the Regan.... They just found some Radiation on one of the choppers and a few of the crew. Not sure the extent of the exposure..... Scary Stuff!
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I assumed it was minimal at most. I'm sure (or at least hope) that a ship like the Regan would have the capabilities to detect and deal with low level radiation. It is powered with nuclear fuel after all so not a foreign concept...
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The latest wind dispersal prediction maps would suggest If criticality occurs. Some radioactive fallout would reach the west coast of America. However. This is unlikely to be much of a problem. Wales got some Chernobyl fallout and life continues unchanged.
People are a lot more worried about radiation than they should be. For instance if you go on a short haul jet flight, you get a radiation dose equivalent to being x-rayed. Radiation occurs naturally, in Cornwall they even breath in radon gas (low levels) in some areas released from the rock. It's only high doses that are the real problem, such as the crews in the powerstation may be recieving.
I still hope they stabilise the reactor cores tho. As brown note said, japans too small to deal with the kind of exclusion zones needed if it does blow.
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