Multiculturalism has failed?
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Having listened to David Cameron's speech today and debated it amongst close friends, I am undecided as to how far his statement is true. My own experience is incredibly mixed, as in I have friends of all creeds races etc but have been subjected to racism and alienation. I see what he says about a failure in upstanding British morales but I can't help but think he was a bit too radical. What are your views?
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Didn't see it, would be interested to watch and relay my opinion, I think all racism is symptomatic , like a divided cell,ignorance starting as 1 bad seed and doubled n doubled(not literally ,but u know what I mean) and racism has bin manipulated for years,
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It has failed, multi culturism was supposed to bring more people together, instead it makes people with the same culture seek refuge among eachother.
I don't know how the debate went because i live in Holland.
Either way, just try to be as tolerant as you can be, i think racist jokes should be perfectly allowed btw, as long as you others hearing it aren't offended by it. -
It wasn't really about racism but that's what it's been blown up into. It's more about the fact that as a society we have given so much respect to minorities that if their beliefs or culture is opposite to ours (I.e. Arranged marriages) we stand by and let it happen. And because of this lack of "British" values, islamists see it as a weakness almost and can only identify with extremist sects. That's what I gathered anyway...
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David Cameron is a cock. What does he know about multiculturalism? Home Office reports and looking at Kieth Vaz? Give me a break, Etonian elitist scumbag.
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bazboffer wrote:
Yes, i 2nd that, I do like watching for the comedic value,squirming comes to mind,David Cameron is a cock. What does he know about multiculturalism? Home Office reports and looking at Kieth Vaz? Give me a break, Etonian elitist scumbag.
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bazboffer wrote:
David Cameron is a cock. What does he know about multiculturalism? Home Office reports and looking at Kieth Vaz? Give me a break, Etonian elitist scumbag.
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Try going to saudi arabia and build a church!
Try preach christian ways there.
Im up for mix and getting on, but this is too much, don't come here then say you don't like the way we are then try revert us.
Oil & Water people... oil n water
It just dont mix.
EDL have a point, -
juggle0 wrote:
Queen & Country, English ways.Having listened to David Cameron's speech today and debated it amongst close friends, I am undecided as to how far his statement is true. My own experience is incredibly mixed, as in I have friends of all creeds races etc but have been subjected to racism and alienation. I see what he says about a failure in upstanding British morales but I can't help but think he was a bit too radical. What are your views?
accept it or fuck off.
After all,
This is England!
My forefathers didn't battle & die in world wars fighting our shores to stop being taken over so that Labour can get in and allow the mass immigration and rediculous speed in which immigrant kids are being dropped.
I don't work a 60 hour week to pay taxes just so a family of immigrants that DONT want to work can claim more in benefits.
If you dont see this then you are blind. In 40 years time, the English will be the minority in out motherland. -
cameron = over priveledged out of touch toff who thinks he and his cronies can rip the nation off while we sit back and take it. i for one shall be leaving this country in the near future for australia a country that has its own national identity but welcomes you aslong as you accecpt there way of life. which is how we should ve but we have failed an this country has gone to far for any kind of revival of our britsh values so im going for the next vest thing but witha more relaxed lifestlye. so in answer to your question no our multiculturism experiment hasnt worked.
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and add nem you are right
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dannu23 wrote:
Partially right, mostly wrong. The EDL are a bunch of racist twats, dressing their beliefs up in a more moderate, acceptably patriotic outfit. You simply cannot blame 'immigrants' for any of our social or economical problems. Their are plenty of White, British people who don't pull their weight.and add nem you are right
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bazboffer wrote:
dannu23 wrote:
Partially right, mostly wrong. The EDL are a bunch of racist twats, dressing their beliefs up in a more moderate, acceptably patriotic outfit. You simply cannot blame 'immigrants' for any of our social or economical problems. Their are plenty of White, British people who don't pull their weight.and add nem you are right
Immigration isn't the problem. It's INTEGRATION. That's where the failure is. Integration would be MILES better if they weren't given all the freebies but if you lived in a third world country and heard that if you went to Iraq you would get free food, a house, free education for your children and free healthcare, are you saying you wouldn't go?
The problem is not with the immigration, it's them not having to integrate with our society and live amongst our social identity.
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Bollocks....
because a minority of (lets make this racist by saying it) "Whites" abuse the system, allows an inflood of people abroad to come n do the same? You can tblame these people, they want n need better for their famalies..
But you can only get so much in a pint glass.
3million unemployed? more like 5, but still they allow immigrants and people in based in allowing them work.
Companies see the ££££ sign, thinking Wait, why we paying john smith £10 an hour when we can pay jamiska polwoski £5 an hour? they earn £5, send £3 back,, thats our economy gone... and the mortgage of mr Smith and his family too.. Mr smith goes on the dole, claims what he can and u cant blame him..
vicious circle..
there is not enough jobs here, neither is there space for housing (which us 2nd class citizens get because we only have 2 or 3 kids compared to Mr mohammed mohammed with 8 kids who cant return home because he will get killed). -
What about Mr Smith whose father fought in the war and granfather faught in WW1 to make England what it is? suffering because after 40 years of working long hours for shit money paying taxes etc has to live in a 2 bed flat on £50 a week benefits?
You lot are blinded, blinded by the bright far left light of gordan brown. who coincentally quit his job and is
now working in europe on about 12mil a year -
Our government took a risk and now it's back fired on us big time, so now they are trying to dig us out of this shitty hole they put us in but its not gonna happen in our life time people. You all just need to come to terms that we have been sold down the river and get on with our lives as best as we can and smile n enjoy our life and families! OR go on moaning about it, doing your heads in because you ain't gonna change shit or make a difference, Simples😉. It's as bad as you make it in your own head my friends. What did John Lennon say? Make love not war👍. Accept on TW ,lol✌love❤life!🎉
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Ur right Mr W,
but where do we draw the line? Government just want a cheaper workforce, multi culturism,,
It doesnt, never has done, neither will ever work...
We are human, we stick and want to be besides our own people..
Major towns like luton bedford have become so segregated its rediculous..
they want us to mix n match! It wont happen, over 200,000 families are leaving teh Uk everyday year.
Major towns being taken over.. pushing people out. i have seen it for my own eyes. these people dont want to mix, they want their own kind, own towns, own religions.
I have had to move twice because i was made to not feel comfortable. Racism is a double sided blade. I made no cuts but have the scars.. -
I didn't catch it n I'm a lil annoyed n tipsy tonight. But I did scroll through the replies n I'll voice my opinion when I'm sober. Don't delete this thread. Now I'll go piss someone off..it's been a while.
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Little Smasher🚶 wrote:
lol.. true... if u wanna accept, stand back, smile and take it up the harris..Our government took a risk and now it's back fired on us big time, so now they are trying to dig us out of this shitty hole they put us in but its not gonna happen in our life time people. You all just need to come to terms that we have been sold down the river and get on with our lives as best as we can and smile n enjoy our life and families! OR go on moaning about it, doing your heads in because you ain't gonna change shit or make a difference, Simples😉. It's as bad as you make it in your own head my friends. What did John Lennon say? Make love not war👍. Accept on TW ,lol✌love❤life!🎉
id rather go down fighting for what is rightfully & historically ours.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best -
At the basic level we own nothing, we are just occupying a space for a time period,never has never will be, I really don't know the awnser, but can u imagine other way round, our own ppl sold us out,but hey isn't that what history tells us, just another cycle!!!
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I think youre all being a bit to extreme. Yeah sure theyre taking our jobs and benifits , would'nt you? Theyre just trying to make the best life they can. I propose stricter immagation rules. 1. Make sure all the people coming over speak fluent english. 2. Make sure they bring enough money to get back home.
3. If they do not get a job within 3 months , they'll be kicked out. -
this is a very interesting thread. Doesn't England have a rich history of forcing colonization, segregation and internment upon other countries spanning hundreds of years?
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RetardedNinja wrote:
according to you, forgeign adoption would be illegal.I think youre all being a bit to extreme. Yeah sure theyre taking our jobs and benifits , would'nt you? Theyre just trying to make the best life they can. I propose stricter immagation rules. 1. Make sure all the people coming over speak fluent english. 2. Make sure they bring enough money to get back home.
3. If they do not get a job within 3 months , they'll be kicked out. -
Good point Mama,, that was way back when, not the decision of the people that are now getting screwed,,
Take it out on the people that made the decisons..
My home is my castle, for which i built. I am not going to let it be tore down in front of me.
My gran parents never sold me out, but faught & suffered just the way we are from evil dicators like Hitler.
now it seems were going through it too.. Just not on the beaches or shores like Churchill once said, or at omaha beach, they landed a long time ago.. Now we pay the price.
If i have a 12 man boat with only 7 people on it, i can take 5 more... not 10!
I would be stupid as we would all sink.. youre asking me to take on 20 -
🐱 mama tek wrote:
Yes well said mama, I know world segregated into lands that was dominate thru first come first serve, but we own nothing, we own our mind thats it,accept it embrace it and share and indulge in culture as it enriches our life,Wouk be very boring if everyone same acted same thought samethis is a very interesting thread. Doesn't England have a rich history of forcing colonization, segregation and internment upon other countries spanning hundreds of years?
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Nemesis add NEM wrote:
But it's all relevant because when things are going good, but when we afflicted?.....it takes sufferingto open up and see big picture, i think,Good point Mama,, that was way back when, not the decision of the people that are now getting screwed,,
Take it out on the people that made the decisons..
My home is my castle, for which i built. I am not going to let it be tore down in front of me.
My gran parents never sold me out, but faught & suffered just the way we are from evil dicators like Hitler.
now it seems were going through it too.. Just not on the beaches or shores like Churchill once said, or at omaha beach, they landed a long time ago.. Now we pay the price.
If i have a 12 man boat with only 7 people on it, i can take 5 more... not 10!
I would be stupid as we would all sink.. youre asking me to take on 20 -
Lol Nemesis!! Go down fighting??? What is it you intend to do exactly? Go up to Luton or where ever it was asking who works and who don't, who's here to take the piss out of our country and who's making a genuine contribution then start punching👊 the one who you think deserve it bro? You will be running round in circles! There are immigrants that have come here and paid 10x more tax than you and the White British work shy sponger living 3 doors down from you. So where do you start??????? Luton? Lol! Go down fighting WHO bro?? Your banging your head against a brick wall. (so to speak)
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Nemesis add NEM wrote:
Were going through it with our own government ,the people are but doing the same natural thing as we do by protecting our castle, can't blame them,some take piss,some do jobs we were too lazy to do,now we want back,can't have both ways, I'm proud to be English but I'm human first,I see 1 way, down...and ten it may get better,but same time our grandparents would be madGood point Mama,, that was way back when, not the decision of the people that are now getting screwed,,
Take it out on the people that made the decisons..
My home is my castle, for which i built. I am not going to let it be tore down in front of me.
My gran parents never sold me out, but faught & suffered just the way we are from evil dicators like Hitler.
now it seems were going through it too.. Just not on the beaches or shores like Churchill once said, or at omaha beach, they landed a long time ago.. Now we pay the price. -
my bad, I thought the English still occupied northern Ireland and that there are still segregated catholic ghettos in Belfast. but I suspect by multicultural, you do mean not white.
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I do feel the frustration, and the worst thing is we can only blame greed, if wa to help world wouldn't USA Canada France Australia etc be helping lol us? Uh Uh like said our government took a gamble(for greed not kindness) and it's the ppl(as always) who pay the debt-literally and metaphorically
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so u would allow 20 on knowing full well ur family n kids would sink in a boat you built?
Shark infested -30 degree waters?
No, sorry. especially when they start preaching their religion whilst youre rowing..
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