Multiculturalism has failed?
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It's not segregate ourselves from those who need help, but unite and strengthen our common goals!!! we the ppl always have power.....in numbers, look how hittler talked Germany round ? If only we had a leader for good with Same drive, I believe we are due a genuine leader from love and human compassion,if hurtled wasn't evil and demented he would of been the greatest politician this world seen and motivation to feed the world, that's inspiration,I have so much here,even tho less than before immigration law,but that means mire ppl getting food and shelter,I'm cool to a degree bout it
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🐱 mama tek wrote:
Bermuda still a colony too, and I know there is a good few others, and it's mad as if u are bermudan u can claim British passport but if British can't even get work permit in Bermuda let alone citizenship,that's bit messed up,but then has to be to protect small island,but then look at uk that's fairly small really,we have 65million ppl and USA has 400million,uk fits into Texas 3times I believe,!!!!!!my bad, I thought the English still occupied northern Ireland and that there are still segregated catholic ghettos in Belfast. but I suspect by multicultural, you do mean not white.
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We/i pay enough to help cover those that actually need it..
I dont want to pay for those that don't...
Arranged marriages, fake passports, false disalments, bad back whilst they live in Spain 6 months a year.
I lived here 36 years worked 20 and have less than most.. Never signed on, how is that fair?
People on benefits/dole have/earn more than me & my family.
Free cars, travel, food, schooling, meals, prescriptions, dentist!
Thats my argument.
Just that most that arrive here from abroad get the same. -
That is the disheartening part of humans, give an inch take a mile,no all, but the ones thy do show great disrespect to the people as a whole, I have been in an out of work. And always survived without rock n roll, but I am a born survivor and don't take charity, and feel if can do for myself then thats a few grand a year not wasted,if only more felt like that,I am all for grassing up n I'm not a grass,but I see it asthey wouldn't go in ur house and steal(well most,lol) so it mire frustrating using our system to steal ? World gone mad,but how to police it properly???
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I too have never had nothing given to me except breath life and a good brain, and I see that as my strength and part of what has built my character, I know u put me in jungle,and in 2 days w be sheltered fed and wearing designer leaves, lol, this 1 I have the reasoning and people aspect but a for system,no awnsers and just see as a spiral downwards,
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Nemesis add NEM wrote:
They are already on the boat, they have Been for ages but I'm not about to start bashing up the ones that are on the boat or chuck them in for the sharks JUST because my captain let them on them boat in the first place because I have morals and a soul. I will paddle that boat until it sunk knowing I tried my best with what I had rather than act in a way that goes against everything i believe in. We don't have the power to chuck them off the boat even if we wanted to so what's the point of starting a big fight with them.so u would allow 20 on knowing full well ur family n kids would sink in a boat you built?
Shark infested -30 degree waters?
No, sorry. especially when they start preaching their religion whilst youre rowing.. -
But the tension is high,and that's why Egypt was a awakening as if encroaches on western world, u know where it going down? And in a way it needs to be stripped, just see pain and heart ache, call me a prophet
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No but if we all sink together we survive together more people less chance shark attack, unity is only key, the only differences between us should not be skin colour or creed or religion, but should be good an evil,that should be all that separates us
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And I know we shouldn't have to sink, but it's hard human nature to ensure survival of offspring(in the forefront) but big picture is human compassion, 2 viable emotions and stance points, as said impossible!!!
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I can see me nem and smasher here till, mon morning,lol....thing is no1 perspective is wrong, as it's all relative to the person, like suffering, no measure, each person feels to varying degrees but still is suffering??
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Can't be policed unless you use extreme measures...
Prison isnt anything to be concerned about now days.. pool halls, PS3, xBox, chefs cooking ur food, political correctness, humanitarianism. ur bettter off in there than out!But Like i asked before, If you built a boat, able to carry 12 people, with 7 family members..
How many would you allow to come with you knowing you only had a tax deficit for 12, food/water & hospital beds & GP spaces for 12, roads, jobs for 12, anymore is a major risk & you'd all go down?
How many?
Regardless of what your morals, or soul thinks.,. You have to think sensibly.
We aren'y coping, neither can we cope!
Were sinking, weve chucked all we can over board to stay afloat but still were going down..
But the righteou left wing humanists are still shouting and dragging in more bodies from the sea..
Soon there will be no boat..
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But if we had sensible captains the boats would of been arranged better,lol....point taken, when comes to crunch kids and family, as heart breaking as is do me to admit, I am an instinctual person, but also instincts tell me sucks,as no1 owns world and between world is enough food and water for everyone,n that's all we need,everything else is luxury,even though we used to it,billions years 1 way ,few thousand our way,and look what's happening,god I like intelligent conversation,but is painful as pain echoes through the debate
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Then when you're swimming amongst the sharks, dieing of hyperthermia..
family sinking and being eaten alive, you say....
its God's fault... right?
Why is god so cruel, we are only trying to do the righteous thing... -
Nemesis add NEM wrote:
You have a valid point and if I was the captain of that boat, no one else would be getting near it, but it will never get as bad as being drowned in water at sea, it will be survival of the fittest so I know we will be fine not like the lazy arse work shy immigrant that could not get out of bed to contribute. See where all there preaching will get them then.Can't be policed unless you use extreme measures...
Prison isnt anything to be concerned about now days.. pool halls, PS3, xBox, chefs cooking ur food, political correctness, humanitarianism. ur bettter off in there than out!But Like i asked before, If you built a boat, able to carry 12 people, with 7 family members..
How many would you allow to come with you knowing you only had a tax deficit for 12, food/water & -
Little Smasher🚶 wrote:
preciselyNemesis add NEM wrote:
You have a valid point and if I was the captain of that boat, no one else would be getting near it, but it will never get as bad as being drowned in water at sea, it will be survival of the fittest so I know we will be fine not like the lazy arse work shy immigrant that could not get out of bed to contribute. See where all there preaching will get them then.Can't be policed unless you use extreme measures...
Prison isnt anything to be concerned about now days.. pool halls, PS3, xBox, chefs cooking ur food, political correctness, humanitarianism. ur bettter off in there than out!But Like i asked before, If you built a boat, able to carry 12 people, with 7 family members..
How many would you allow to come with you knowing you only had a tax deficit for 12, food/water &
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO -
Just for clarification, in my opinion we need to roll with the punches on the rocky road for a while because when there no more money to hand out to all the work shy spongers they will either top themselves or die of starvation and then the fittest will overcome all and start again. Lol in an ideal world right ? 😹. O I give up. Who cares😼
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Little Smasher🚶 wrote:
In a way it kinda like karma, we did exploit people as slaves we did invade countries for want of better word , we have been arrogant in the past as a work power. I know it not fair butthe tides always change,Just for clarification, in my opinion we need to roll with the punches on the rocky road for a while because when there no more money to hand out to all the work shy spongers they will either top themselves or die of starvation and then the fittest will overcome all and start again. Lol in an ideal world right ? 😹. O I give up. Who cares😼
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All jokes aside being deadly serious, I know it's not an easy job to try and bring balance and fairness for all, but that's the prob in itself, bring balance n wealth to...uk USA Europe? That's the prob the world need to bring balance to each and every, and if they are not lacking the basics, the desire to leave their homeland which they are proud of would be far less, how can 1 man have morethan a thousand lifetimes worth and another die of no clean water? N yet look at the ppl themselves, even though in general 3rd world country,but thy happier in their soul than most westerners! It takes a community to raise a child, and then compassion for ur neighbour or stranger follows
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Ok let me try make sense of this. I just read up on BBC news lol. There's way to much text in here for me to go through finely so this ain't directed at anyone, I'm taking a general approach.
1. Multiculterism - what exactly is this meant to mean? As in what's the ideology here, what did they hope to achieve?
2. The state of the country economically and culturally is undeniably the result of government mismanagement.
3. There is not a single member of any parliament in any country who does not get rich on a countries inability. Politics is bullshit.I cant help but wonder how multiculteralism fits in to British history. The colonisation of many different countries was not in hope for a multiculteral future lol don't get twisted. Bubbles down to power. By nature, Cameron leads a party who are "consertive" their ideology is society orientated. Cameron has a point and you can't play the blame game. IMMIGRATION plays a huge part of the state of our country today anyone who denies that is confused.
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Exactly, they didn't do it for love!!! As government don't! They done it for economics, jobs went being filled!! Etc , so really it was the unwillingness of people to do menial jobs, amongst a whole host of other things, yes vadan,goodbpoint
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40 yrs ago my parents came from india with £10 in their pocket. They were very difficult times as britian was going through cultural changes which wernt being accepted by society...My parents worked damn hard not just to feed mouths but to be accepted. Times changed as they do, britian realised they NEED to accept change why? Because it was economically correct....
A government comes in to power and opens the flood gates. What do you honestly expect would happen? You wanted "multiculterism", you had it. What you done was ruin the country. Some will dislike this but sorry British are lazy. These guys that "take your jobs" work damn hard for peanuts. 1. Exploitation, 2. Why should I pay someone who will do a 9to5 for £100 a day when I can get double the work capacity for £40. It's the mentality.
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The war, the war. Fuck the war. Who fought your wars for you? Not your countries men. The largest allied force thy had control for Britian was india. Who took Africa...india. Banging on about the war cos you eventually overthrew political powers. Bs. Britian has always been a mixed culture, the monarch proves it very clearly. This country has no values left. It's fucked itself and will take decades to put in order.
Did anyone know the British have Jewels that were stolen from the Taj Mahal when they left india. Lol. What a joke.
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Exactly, the monarchs been doing it for hundreds of years, marr into another culture, tak on som many country men to affirm the allegiance ,strengthen the 2countries, king Solomon done this back in bible, with many different countries princesses ,queens, no 1 country has EVER. Been solely occupied by 1 creed,culture,race....and all them are broad even they are diluted, race is meaningless, no matter whether it was hundred of thousands of ex patts coming back, I mean look at what England did at one point in history, we owe it to offer solace to some, even though some take the piss, we took the piss in history
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Prince Phillip is from a Danish royal family. His grandson will become king. Dutch bloodlines hello... Shit didn't fail, it was fucked up over recent decades by people with too much power.
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YOU wrote:
Forgot to mention Prince Philip also has Greek blood.Prince Phillip is from a Danish royal family. His grandson will become king. Dutch bloodlines hello... Shit didn't fail, it was fucked up over recent decades by people with too much power.
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There's no such true Englishman either, it's an adopted identity, and that goes for most people, u can narrow den best by saying European Asian African oriental/Asian but even that!! We all came from a common ancestor in truth we are all brothers and sisters and our DNA is proving it, they can trace all Jewish people backto 3 women! And that's fact
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krazijay wrote:
Oh don't go there. Lol. No-go topic.There's no such true Englishman either, it's an adopted identity, and that goes for most people, u can narrow den best by saying European Asian African oriental/Asian but even that!! We all came from a common ancestor in truth we are all brothers and sisters and our DNA is proving it, they can trace all Jewish people backto 3 women! And that's fact
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And before get gunned dwn, wen say all, out of the thousands tested, all of them have 1 of 3 common woman they cam trace genes back to, I know easier with Jewish people in general as closer community dnt marry out as much, talking orthodox mainly
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VADAN
Do u consider yourself British and therefore lazy?
I think the point is that multicultural society has failed because there is no shared national identity.
You said it yourself, your parents came here and worked damm hard! To make a better life and be accepted, which from your statement implies that they have bn. They have as much right as any hard working "indigenous" citizen to be pissed of at the lazy benefits culture that previous governments have created.Our current multicultural society is failing because diff cultures r living apart with no shared identity and national goals, unlike your patents who came and worked hard, gave more bk to society that they ever took.
I think everyone needs to have the same goals in life on a "general national" level (personal goals r smaller) like work hard, improve life for everyone in the country, have better education and healthcare for everyone etc etc. Basically try to give more back "in tax" than you ever take from the state. -
It's a gd thing that we look after the weak, tired and hungry etc. However to many people of ALL colours, races, religions, sex's and sexualities are thinking fuck it, if they are playing the system and getting these benefits why can't I? Prob natural human jealousy.
Back in the day, it was seen as a taboo or frowned upon to sign on, you were looked upon as a failure if you could not provide for yourself if u were fit n healthy to work.
To a certain extent is still is, but only by the WORKING people who are paying for the whole thing! There needs to be more shame in singing on the dole, and there just isn't anymore.
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