Projected US total deaths.
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Totals So Far:
4/3: 7,404
4/4: 8,451
4/5: 9,616
4/6: 10,871
4/7: 12,868
4/8: 14,811
4/9: 16,691
4/10: 18,747
4/11: 20,577
4/12: 22,105 -
Mystery wrote:
Wow deaths dropped off a cliff today. Let’s hope that continues.Totals So Far:
4/3: 7,404
4/4: 8,451
4/5: 9,616
4/6: 10,871
4/7: 12,868
4/8: 14,811
4/9: 16,691
4/10: 18,747
4/11: 20,577
4/12: 22,105 -
℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Been dropping over the last few days. Wasnt it supposed to peak like yesterday? Seems accurateMystery wrote:
Wow deaths dropped off a cliff today. Let’s hope that continues.Totals So Far:
4/3: 7,404
4/4: 8,451
4/5: 9,616
4/6: 10,871
4/7: 12,868
4/8: 14,811
4/9: 16,691
4/10: 18,747
4/11: 20,577
4/12: 22,105 -
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-11/bay-area-coronavirus-deaths-signs-of-earlier-spread-california
Great article by the LA times. There’s signs that Corona had been in California months before it was on our radar. This would mean a few things. 1) the death count for Corona is actually much higher and 2) Because corona was in Cali for months before we had any controls that the millions of deaths predicted by experts was likely a huge whiff.
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I was reading a good article today about Sweden’s approach to the Covid pandemic. They’re statistics really show that maybe all of these lockdowns might be in vain. Hopefully our governments are looking at Sweden and maybe rethinking our strategies for the coming months.
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Totals So Far:
4/3: 7,404
4/4: 8,451
4/5: 9,616
4/6: 10,871
4/7: 12,868
4/8: 14,811
4/9: 16,691
4/10: 18,747
4/11: 20,577
4/12: 22,105
4/13: 23,640Yeah, the US peaked on April 10th.
They keep pushing back the peak date for Texas - it’s annoying. They now say TX won’t see the peak in deaths until April 30.
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
I’ve actually read a couple articles similar to that about different places. The first was actually about China - that there may have been some cases there as early as Nov 17th. Initially they weren’t recognized as a new disease though.https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-11/bay-area-coronavirus-deaths-signs-of-earlier-spread-california
Great article by the LA times. There’s signs that Corona had been in California months before it was on our radar.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/how-did-the-coronavirus-start-where-did-it-come-from-how-did-it-spread-humans-was-it-really-bats-pangolins-wuhan-animal-market
(Regarding the article above, couldn’t it have been a visitor or even someone working at the market that spread it there?)
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/13/831883560/can-a-coronavirus-patient-who-isnt-showing-symptoms-infect-others
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〓 ZONE 〓 wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/virus-deaths-rise-sweden-sticks-low-scale-lockdown-70114439 🤷🏼♀️I was reading a good article today about Sweden’s approach to the Covid pandemic. They’re statistics really show that maybe all of these lockdowns might be in vain. Hopefully our governments are looking at Sweden and maybe rethinking our strategies for the coming months.
It’s far too soon to know if Sweden’s approach is working.
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Everyone has been asking why they would artificially inflate the number of dead due to Corona.
Every time a hospital admits, discharges, or loses a patient to Covid-19, they are compensated 15% more according to the CARES ACT, SEC 4409.
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
“ Sec. 4409. Medicare Add-on for Inpatient Hospital COVID-19 PatientsEveryone has been asking why they would artificially inflate the number of dead due to Corona.
Every time a hospital admits, discharges, or loses a patient to Covid-19, they are compensated 15% more according to the CARES ACT, SEC 4409.
This section would increase the payment that would otherwise be made to a hospital for treating a patient admitted with COVID-19 by 15 percent. It would build on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) decision to expedite use of a COVID-19 diagnosis to enable better surveillance as well as trigger appropriate payment for these complex patients. This add-on payment would be available through the duration of the COVID-19 emergency period.” -
So it’s for Medicare patients, not everyone, who receive inpatient treatment. It says nothing about requiring the patients to die.
There are probably some corrupt admins that will try to take advantage, but that’s no reason to assume everyone will. That also doesn’t necessarily mean inflated Covid deaths in the final analysis. Hospital admins don’t determine cause of death.
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Mystery wrote:
Well, I’m sold.So it’s for Medicare patients, not everyone, who receive inpatient treatment. It says nothing about requiring the patients to die.
There are probably some corrupt admins that will try to take advantage, but that’s no reason to assume everyone will. That also doesn’t necessarily mean inflated Covid deaths in the final analysis. Hospital admins don’t determine cause of death.
Now I don’t know who to believe.
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Dude, that is word for word Candace Owens tweet from 8 hours ago. Scary that that came up on Google searching for the act & section number.Every time a hospital admits, discharges, or loses a patient to Covid-19, they are compensated 15% more according to the CARES ACT, SEC 4409.
I know you are intelligent and you say you are using your brain, so did you look up the act before you “retweeted” her here?
I can’t believe I just used the word “retweeted.” Have I mentioned how much I dislike Twitter?
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Totals So Far:
4/3: 7,404
4/4: 8,451
4/5: 9,616
4/6: 10,871
4/7: 12,868
4/8: 14,811
4/9: 16,691
4/10: 18,747
4/11: 20,577
4/12: 22,105
4/13: 23,640
4/14: 26,047 -
Mystery wrote:
This doesn’t make it not true. Yes I did not ‘retweet’ it in my own words. Don’t tell my mom.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Dude, that is word for word Candace Owens tweet from 8 hours ago. Scary that that came up on Google searching for the act & section number.Every time a hospital admits, discharges, or loses a patient to Covid-19, they are compensated 15% more according to the CARES ACT, SEC 4409.
I know you are intelligent and you say you are using your brain, so did you look up the act before you “retweeted” her here?
I can’t believe I just used the word “retweeted.” Have I mentioned how much I dislike Twitter?
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Did you read my posts before this one?Mystery wrote:
This doesn’t make it not true. Yes I did not ‘retweet’ it in my own words. Don’t tell my mom.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Dude, that is word for word Candace Owens tweet from 8 hours ago. Scary that that came up on Google searching for the act & section number.Every time a hospital admits, discharges, or loses a patient to Covid-19, they are compensated 15% more according to the CARES ACT, SEC 4409.
I know you are intelligent and you say you are using your brain, so did you look up the act before you “retweeted” her here?
I can’t believe I just used the word “retweeted.” Have I mentioned how much I dislike Twitter?
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Hypothetical: For argument’s sake, let’s say you guys are totally right and no stay at home orders or social distancing were ever needed. Let’s say that an analysis is done, the real death rate is minuscule, and no businesses ever needed to shut down. What then?
Are you going to gloat, claim you are so much smarter than all the world leaders, call them all idiots, and lambast them to no end? What does that accomplish? You do realize that their goal is to limit the amount of death as much as possible, right? SARS-CoV-2 is a new disease. People (including leaders) are not psychic, nor are they perfect. I’m pretty sure that most, if not all, leaders (of the free world anyway) do not want to make things worse for their countries. I doubt hindsight will be 20/20 either.
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Unlike the media, I will not influence you on HOW you should interpret the data. If I omitted facts, it was unintentional and in no way meant to sway opinions for or against. This is just information to do with as you please.
4/14
Original projection from post = 25,713
Actual on 4/14=
26, 047Avg communicable period = 14 days
Days in shelter in place = 16 -
I wouldnt gloat but i would like people to admit they were wrong to over react and help drive the market by fear. But thats never going to happen. When all the numbers are in i’m sure they will turn around and say if people didnt do the things they did it would have been much worse and millions would have died. To some degree i admit taking any measure is better than taking none. But look at the cdc numbers... they speak for themselves. And until this year i had no friends, family or co workers wear gloves or masks and no one that ive known or someone they knew died from it that i know of. So yes it seems exaggerated. Not that i wish to go through it or anyone else to either.
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Just watched a news report linking a spike in child abuse to covid19 😒
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Truly sad. A lot of kids only escape from an abusive parent is school.Just watched a news report linking a spike in child abuse to covid19 😒
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Mystery wrote:
I actually did miss it. I disagree with your interpretation. I’m not getting into arguing about interpretation of legal jargon though. I get paid $250 an hour for that. It’s not fun for me. That’s work.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Did you read my posts before this one?Mystery wrote:
This doesn’t make it not true. Yes I did not ‘retweet’ it in my own words. Don’t tell my mom.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Dude,Every time a hospital admits, discharges, or loses a patient to Covid-19, they are compensated 15% more according to the CARES ACT, SEC 4409.
I can’t believe I just used the word “retweeted.” Have I mentioned how much I dislike Twitter?
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Mystery wrote:
I’m really arguing for fun and so this doesn’t become an echo chamber of people quoting the main stream media into a turf wars thread. People should question and challenge the status quo occasionally.Hypothetical: For argument’s sake, let’s say you guys are totally right and no stay at home orders or social distancing were ever needed. Let’s say that an analysis is done, the real death rate is minuscule, and no businesses ever needed to shut down. What then?
Are you going to gloat, claim you are so much smarter than all the world leaders, call them all idiots, and lambast them to no end? What does that accomplish? You do realize that their goal is to limit the amount of death as much as possible, right? SARS-CoV-2 is a new disease..
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I got a great idea ... stop watching the news it’s all about doom and gloom they feed off bad shit happening. First off it’s not as bad as what they want you to believe. The “projected death toll” vers the real total is both made up. If you have a “premedical” condition you could die. Lmao thats like saying if you have stage 5 cancer your going to die it happens doesn’t mean covid took you it was your time. Stop for the love of god falling into the news trap of “we are all doomed”. Guess what .... more people die from starvation every day then this “cold” has taken so far
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☣Յⅈ☢Ϧⱥʑǻཞđ☣ wrote:
You’re more than a month late with that argument. Go read all the other Covid thread first, then all of this thread. I don’t see the point in hashing out all that again.I got a great idea ... stop watching the news it’s all about doom and gloom they feed off bad shit happening. ✂️
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Idk about millions dying but IMO more would have died. We can’t go back in time though so there’s no way to prove it one way or another.I wouldnt gloat but i would like people to admit they were wrong to over react and help drive the market by fear. But thats never going to happen. When all the numbers are in i’m sure they will turn around and say if people didnt do the things they did it would have been much worse and millions would have died. ✂️ And until this year I had no friends, family or coworkers wear gloves or masks and no one that I've known or someone they knew died from it that I know of. So yes it seems exaggerated. Not that I wish to go through it or anyone else to either.
Of course no one died from Covid before this year (starting at the end of 2019) - it didn’t exist. People in the US typically don’t wear masks when they are sick with anything else, however that’s quite common in Japan.
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
So in my hypothetical scenario, you want people to admit they were wrong for doing what they thought was the best thing for the world, something they believed would save lives? They weren’t purposefully being wrong or trying to get away with something. Are you just mad that they scared people? Don’t you think they were scared? Rational fear serves a purpose - it helps keep us alive. What exactly would you like the apology to be and what would it accomplish? (This is a real question, not sarcasm.)I wouldnt gloat but i would like people to admit they were wrong to over react and help drive the market by fear.✂️
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The world response is based largely on the example of the 1918 pandemic that killed somewhere around 20 million people. With our population growth since then, today it would be much higher, given the same level of response.
There is pretty much a medical and scientific consensus that this virus has the same potential, and our global response is the result of everything we have learned since then about how to deal with this type of event. It’s working as expected.
If you and your feelings don’t want to believe that this virus has similar potential to the 1918 pandemic, and you want to bet the lives of 10s of millions of people on it...
All I can really say is “fuck you.”
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
Real question though. Some experts say we shouldn’t risk opening the economy back up until a vaccine is developed in (likely) 2022. Thoughts?The world response is based largely on the example of the 1918 pandemic that killed somewhere around 20 million people. With our population growth since then, today it would be much higher, given the same level of response.
There is pretty much a medical and scientific consensus that this virus has the same potential, and our global response is the result of everything we have learned since then about how to deal with this type of event. It’s working as expected.
If you and your feelings don’t want to believe that this virus has similar potential to the 1918 pandemic, and you want to bet the lives of 10s of millions of people on it...
All I can really say is “fuck you.”
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Mystery wrote:
honestly i'm not mad. and i don't need an apology. you mention that they "believe". do they? i don't think they do. i see some opportunist that will jump on the bandwagon if it will benefit them. like i said. where was the outcry when it 60,000 died? i would prefer things not be exaggerated and putting people into a panic. it's affected business and peoples lives. yes.... being dead would also....★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
So in my hypothetical scenario, you want people to admit they were wrong for doing what they thought was the best thing for the world, something they believed would save lives? They weren’t purposefully being wrong or trying to get away with something. Are you just mad that they scared people? (This is a real question, not sarcasm.)I wouldnt gloat but i would like people to admit they were wrong to over react and help drive the market by fear.✂️
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