Projected US total deaths.
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You really wanna sit there and say, “psh... 1%... That’s so small.”
Really. After everything we had to do to get it there.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
1% is the fatality rate of the disease for people who have it. This has been shown by large scale testing of healthy populations to determine overall infection rates. That 1% doesn’t change is 20 people have the disease for 7 billion.You really wanna sit there and say, “psh... 1%... That’s so small.”
Really. After everything we had to do to get it there.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.
What we’re doing is limiting the amount of people who get the disease so we have the resources to treat them. So yes everywhere in the United States can maintain that 1%.
So what’s your solution.
Keep everyone locked in their homes for 2 years until they come up with a vaccine? I’m sure you’re well off and could handle that. Honestly I could too. What about the other 95%? Fuck them, right? I mean they’re poor who cares. You may start to miss them when your food supply chains dry up though. -
∞🪓Persephone🌲∞ wrote:
260 million? so 130 million faced starvation, but is that an actual death toll or just some facing it? i didn't think it was that high. not to take away from the weight of it. i'm sure it's bad.“The coronavirus pandemic has left the world facing an unprecedented hunger crisis. The United Nations World Food Program (WFP) has warned that by the end of the year, more than 260 million people will face starvation – double last year's figures.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunger-crisis-coronavirus-pandemic/ -
★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
∞🪓Persephone🌲∞ wrote:
260 million? so 130 million faced starvation, but is that an actual death toll or just some facing it? i didn't think it was that high. not to take away from the weight of it. i'm sure it's bad.“The coronavirus pandemic has left the world facing an unprecedented figures.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunger-crisis-coronavirus-pandemic/I have no clue. I have been trained on effects of poverty on short & long term health outcomes. It’s not pretty. Sadly, a major hit in the US actually is the same at risk population for Corona. The elderly, the disabled, the chronically ill. Also the mental health issues are exponentially increased. This leads to generational issues. ACES impact on health outcomes For children, grandchildren & greatgrandchildren are devastating.
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
My take on the article was that indicators and projections are ringing the alarm bells. Like the initial start of the pandemic- the # is based on projections as an estimate & insufficient data exists to provide clarity. Third world countries do appear to be screwed. Countries with major natural disasters or are still recovering are doubly screwed.∞🪓Persephone🌲∞ wrote:
260 million? so 130 million faced starvation, but is that an actual death toll or just some facing it? i didn't think it was that high. not to take away from the weight of it. i'm sure it's bad.“The
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunger-crisis-coronavirus-pandemic/ -
World Hunger Day 2019. Today, some 821 million people suffer chronically from hunger. And although this is significantly fewer people than the numbers we saw a decade ago, hunger still kills more people than AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria combined.May 28, 2019
World Hunger Day 2019 - VOA Editorials - Voice of America
(this source has even higher numbers) -
℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
You keep saying 2 years for a vaccine. Where is that stated as fact? I’m guessing we’ll have one this year. (We already have several candidates to test..)Brown🎵Note wrote:
...You really wanna sit there and say, “psh... 1%... That’s so small.”
Really. After everything we had to do to get it there.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.
So what’s your solution.
Keep everyone locked in their homes for 2 years until they come up with a vaccine? I’m sure you’re well off and could handle that. Honestly I could too. What about the other 95%? Fuck them, right? I mean they’re poor who cares. You may start to miss them when your food supply chains dry up though.My solution is to have everyone stay home for a month. That would literally kill off the virus. But since nobody is doing that, whine whine whine, here we are.
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Poor people should buy yachts and anchor off Trinidad. They could spearfish lobster and drink rum until all this blows over.
Why are you so negative?
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
So why isn’t it dead in NYC yet? That place is locked down. It’s been over a month and a half℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
You keep saying 2 years for a vaccine. Where is thatBrown🎵Note wrote:
...You really wanna sit there and say, “psh... 1%... That’s so small.”
Really. After everything we had to do to get it there.
I don’t think you’ve thought this through.
So what’s your solution.
Keep everyone locked in their homes for 2 years until they come up with a vaccine? I’m sure you’re well off and could handle that. Honestly I could too. What about the other 95%? Fuck them, right? I mean they’re poor who cares. You may start to miss them when your food supply chains dry up though. -
NYC was never really locked down. Obviously.
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Told y’all da luminati bringin down the house! Oprah, Bill Gates, all dem bishes. It’s population control as scripted on the Georgia guidestones.
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we gonna need something stronger than covid to get that population where those stones say it should be.
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The current “death rate” for the USA is right at 6% of those that tested positive for viral RNA. Your 1% is based on estimates from serology tests. A large % of those serology tests are testing for corona virus. Unfortunately there are at least 4 other corona virus types that are endemic to the USA. Most of these “quick” tests are NOT specific for COVID-19. That means that the claims that NYC has had millions of cases is bogus!!!
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Just heard the count got reset back to zero
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Ese Santos wrote:
Just heard the count got reset back to zero
Damn, someone got ‘rona to reset!
That’s impressive.
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Progresso wrote:
The current “death rate” for the USA is right at 6% of those that tested positive for viral RNA. Your 1% is based on estimates from serology tests. A large % of those serology tests are testing for corona virus. Unfortunately there are at least 4 other corona virus types that are endemic to the USA. Most of these “quick” tests are NOT specific for COVID-19. That means that the claims that NYC has had millions of cases is bogus!!!
This is not necessarily true. Some of the serology tests are specific for the COVID-19 virus (SARS-Cov2). The issue is that the FDA allowed the fast-track of many of these assays, with good evidence but not true "proof" of specificity. But the FDA demanded that if the assay be fast-tracked, it has to state that it might cross react with other Corona viruses. The FDA, however, has already approved a proven SARS-Cov2 specific assay, and I believe that this is the test that being used on a large scale in
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New York.
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Progresso wrote:
Lol ok DoomerThe current “death rate” for the USA is right at 6% of those that tested positive for viral RNA. Your 1% is based on estimates from serology tests. A large % of those serology tests are testing for corona virus. Unfortunately there are at least 4 other corona virus types that are endemic to the USA. Most of these “quick” tests are NOT specific for COVID-19. That means that the claims that NYC has had millions of cases is bogus!!!
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Last week a major hospital in Oklahoma tested just over 3500 employees (selection bias) for COVID-19 specific IgG. They found 20 positive (I don’t know how many of them had positive antigen testing). But that makes the % positive to be about 0.57%
Even with selection bias, that’s an order of magnitude less than what is being reported in the news.Not wanting to argue. Just throwing out a data point.
This game certainly has it’s share of juvenile delinquents, but I have also been surprised by the # of knowledgeable people that have contributed to this discussion -
Holy crap! I took a break from looking at Covid info for about 7-10 days. The US now has 1,408,636 cases. The country with the next highest number is Spain, with just under 270,000. Why the huge gap between the US & all the other countries? I know some is population but that doesn’t account for everything. Russia is 3rd with 232,243. We’ve done over 4 million more tests than Russia but they’ve tested about 9,000 more by 1M/pop. I feel like I must be missing something.
@Viking, if you send people back to work, would you have them get tested daily or something? A negative test only means you don’t have it right then. You could walk down the hall, get exposed, and have it 10 minutes later. Maybe businesses could require a test before you enter, then give you another one before you leave. While people are at work, no one goes in or out. The lockdown could be problematic for some though.
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COVID.
COVFEFE.Coincidence? I think not.
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Mystery wrote:
The disparity is our huge amount of testing. We’ve tested a minimum of 4x the amount of people than any other country in the world. We’re at a point now where we’re consistently testing healthy population. No other country has rolled out the number of tests we have. So naturally if we’re testing the healthy population and testing a minimum of 4x as many people we’re going to have higher confirmed numbers.Holy crap! I took a break from looking at Covid info for about 7-10 days. The US now has 1,408,636 cases. The country with the next highest number is Spain, with just under 270,000. Why the huge gap between the US & all the other countries? I know some is population but that doesn’t account for everything. Russia is 3rd with 232,243. We’ve done over 4 million more tests than Russia but they’ve tested about 9,000 more by 1M/pop. I feel like I must be missing something.
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I agree that lower impacted areas should be relaxed- however, I have seen firsthand businesses rush to reopen and not doing the specific checklists and precautions provided by the CDC, OSHA and local health officials. Next to no training to staff, next to no posted precautions that are expected from employees, employers and customers and gross negligence in ensuring sanitation supplies are immediately available and cleaning of high contact areas is occurring at least every 3 hours or between users (whichever is more frequent). I say do it, but do it safely. I am witnessing businesses reopening like a mad rush similar to customer chaos on Black Friday trying to be the first to get 1 of the 25 70” TV’s at 60% off. People are not reading and implementing the recommendations to provide a reasonable level of safeguards.
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Or.... they are reading and are fully aware but just dont care. 70” at 60% off is obviously worth getting covid over.... duh.😒
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Anyone know the actual death total in the US? Wondering how it compares to the projected number (5/13/2020
687833) for this date. -
i looked earlier it was about 83K
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In NY state, healthcare workers are testing positive at LOWER rates than the general population.
@Progresso: probably the healthcare workers started using protective gear earlier in the process and maybe are better trained in using it. Also, maybe they had earlier and better access to the gear.
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@BigAl! Has a point. I noted that the numbers I presented had a selection bias. While health care workers are more likely to be exposed, I’d like to think we are more fastidiously protecting ourselves. ( I’ve been washing my hands like I have OCD).
I got my COVID-19 specific antibody test back today- so far I’m negative. -
〓 ZONE 〓 wrote:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/Anyone know the actual death total in the US? Wondering how it compares to the projected number (5/13/2020
687833) for this date.Just 604k off.
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Keep punching. You’ll get there.i looked earlier it was about 83K
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