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the further away from the source you are the more room for error. people listen to things on the radio, watch things on tv or read them on the internet and consider themselves educated then take a stand on the matter. the only real education is to do the work yourself, anything outside of that and you are opening yourself up for deception. you are trusting someone else's word. sounds just like the congragation members of a church that never read or interpret a bible for themselves. they just accept whatever someone else is telling them. you're baptist because you were raised baptist, or catholic because you were raised catholic and that is the right way and only way. why do you believe? whether it's politics, religions, conspiracy, is it just because you were told? or did you do the leg work yourself and come to the conclusions that you hold as beliefs? why so vested in it? so energetic or passionate about something someone else just told you was right.
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how do you develop feelings and emotions on something just because someone says so. if i'm not doing the work, if i'm not putting myself into it then i don't really care. i have no interest in it. the day that someone else's beliefs threaten my family, then i will have a problem with it and act accordingly. and if it's too late for some reason. if I have delayed or ignored the signs, or was blind for whatever reason and it comes back to bite me then shame on me. I will get whats coming to me and i will deserve it for not listening to the warnings and not doing what was right.
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
No one in construction will agree that building 7 came down like that because of a fire ! Factagainst my better judgement i did watch the video about the 7th building falling. I don't know dick about the dynamics of building falling. i know the video shows what they look like and tells you what is controlled or not. but i only know what they are telling me if that is the truth. so after watching it i can say... oh that was controlled blast.... because a video told me so. truth is i haven't put in the time and effort for the proper education to be in a position to judge anything. it's only going off what someone else tells me. and if i'm going to be that person it boils down to who tells me what I "know" first right? i'm still just as ignorant about it as i was before i ever watched it but now i'm suppose to have a view or position on the matter?
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yeah i know. because the video told me :) I'm just saying..,.. saying that it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to fall like that sounds just like brown saying it's IMPOSSIBLE for the gov to be in on it.... both are absolutes.
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if you want someone to believe in the possibilities you are putting out there you also need to keep an open mind to theirs and consider that its possible. if not then it becomes a one way street of wanting people to believe you and you not accepting any other explanations.
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
?? Yer I'm in construction. I do a lot of work with Demo .the further away from the source you are the more room for error. people listen to things on the radio, watch things on tv or read them on the internet and consider themselves educated then take a stand on the matter. the only real education is to do the work yourself, anything outside of that and you are opening yourself up for deception. you are trusting someone else's word. sounds just like the congragation members of a church that never read or interpret a bible for themselves. whether it's politics, religions, conspiracy, is it just because you were told? or did you do the leg work yourself
I'm telling you now a building doesn't fall like that because of fire. Anyone who says it would dosent work in construction. They probably work on submarines ?? And then have the arrogance to tell someone who's been in the game boy to man it does fall like that! Crazy -
without hard evidence( recorded footage of the fire and debris that was falling, every nook and cranny that burned) all anyone has it speculation period. even "experts" have been wrong because there is something they didn't account for or some little piece of information that was missed. and that's even if the experts aren't paid to fabricate information or evidence from one group or another. honestly it's too chaotic for me and i'm not smart enough for all of that, and way too lazy. you end up believing one way or another and sticking to it, shooting down the whatever the other side says. i just like listening and watching people get all wound up over it :).
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Incorrect. There are people that have taken the inside job theory very seriously, the moon landing hoax very seriously, and after lots of study and review changed their mind. It happens. I've asked these "questions" myself. Look at me now.if a person already has a position or stand on the matter then no matter what proof the other side has it's easy for them to sit back and say they don't believe it, or that's not real, it's been fabricated or influenced or it's a lie. they just don't believe because they already have their view. what will change it? what would it take for either side to change views or switch over? there probably is nothing. it's endless back and forth. kinda like this thread.
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Shush, how many high rises have you seen collapse because of fire? None? Then how the fuck are you sure it doesn't look like that?
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Brown exactly. Please please please get me footage of one collapsing because of fire.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/4/newsid_4617000/4617395.stm
???????
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-flee-inferno-at-dubai-skyscraper/
??????? Keep searching B.
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without the footage it can't be said either way. the fact that it's not recorded is not evidence of the contrary. and i'm sure that even with said footage it would be hard to without measuring every variable, wind, airpressure, thermal drafts, materials, time, etc.... there's so much going into it, i'm sure even video footage would probably be insufficient. you might be able to cross off someone running around doing it or set charges going off. I'm not a fire fighter or know anything about the inner workings or explosives. i would like to see a video of both sides demonstrating how it could or could not be done. not just saying that it's impossible. i want to see the science behind it. both sides proving to the best of their abilities. not arguing like my kids. "uh huh" "nuh uh". and even when they do, and i'm able to see all of that, i'm still going to say ok... good for them.
if WTC7 was a controlled demo... how does that mean the gov was behind it ???? impossible to assume that terrorist did that also?
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the war party - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4
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It's hard to prove there are no unicorns.
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if WTC7 was a controlled demo... how does that mean the gov was behind it ???? impossible to assume that terrorist did that also? Brown nose
Lol wow. So even if the truth comes out you will then just say " terrorists planted explosives" lol
What a completely brainwashed muppet .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ&autoplay=1
More experts. Not one of them worked on submarines
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Neoconservative. Zionist. All the same thing Dthe war party - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4
Like I said in many of my quotes to Brown nose. Zionist run us all. Europe USA etc. the same people who run us run you. Israel
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Mr,Shush wrote:
I didn't say that. Education also helps with reading comprehension.if WTC7 was a controlled demo... how does that mean the gov was behind it ???? impossible to assume that terrorist did that also? Brown nose
Lol wow. So even if the truth comes out you will then just say " terrorists planted explosives" lol
What a completely brainwashed muppet .
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Ah, the Jews again. "No, not those Jews. THOSE Jews."
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Tony Blair is a Zionist (not a Jew)
This thread is like most debates . Opinions
Most patriots won't believe that 9/11 could ever be an inside job.
Most Britts believe princess Di was murdered.
I think Americans are more patriotic than most Europeans and I believe most Europeans challenge what there media tell them on a daily bases.If you speak to any Russian or eastern block person you would not find 1 in 100 that believe 9-11 was a terrorist attack. The reason being they haven't been manipulated by the propaganda surrounded by our media machine.
Brown is obviously an intelligent guy but lets the fact this happened in his home country judge his opinion.
If this happened in Russia would Americans have the same opinions.
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Most Europeans have media that can be gagged by government, and is also free to overly sensationalize and run with rumors. We have that here, too, but we would never consider it mainstream media. Tabloids have zero credibility in America, (well, in educated America...) whereas in England they seem to lap that crap up.
Brian Williams lied about a war correspondence incident and he's out of a job. The weekly world news says Diana was murdered and bat-boy is back on the loose.
Yes, we have scare tactics to get ratings, but there's a reason they don't show images and articles on newspaper stands in London. Because they are out of control.
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to be fair i'm the one that asked the question about WTC7 because i honestly wanted to know. aren't you assuming all they had planned was planes??? i don't know enough to be brainwashed, i'm just asking questions from an outside point of view, i don't have a side. i do like to think anything is possible and not be so absolute and that is not a far jump for me. i don't think someone cooked up this attack in 30mins. so no matter who did it, gov or outside terrorist, with the right planning either could have done it. i think it's wrong to assume that terrorist only know how to fly planes or that was their only attack. gov, terrorist, or collateral ... i doubt we will ever know the absolute truth without someone outright admitting to it and giving a detailed account of how. there's too many variables and what if's.
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
I agree. Maybe it was United Airlines, those sneaky bastages. Maybe it was those shifty sky waitresses. I mean, we don't know who could have done it, right?✂️aren't you assuming all they had planned was planes??? i don't know enough to be brainwashed, i'm just asking questions from an outside point of view, i don't have a side. i do like to think anything is possible and not be so absolute and that is not a far jump for me. i don't think someone cooked up this attack in 30mins. so no matter who did it, gov or outside terrorist, with the right planning either could have done it. i think it's wrong to assume that terrorist only know how to fly planes or that was their only attack. gov, terrorist, or collateral ... i doubt we will ever know the absolute truth without someone outright admitting to it and giving a detailed account of how. there's too many variables and what if's.
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Mr,Shush wrote:
so how do they run me? how do they run everyone? they are in control of what? all the corporations? all the money? i thought at the beginning of this thing money was the root of all evil so they would need to be in control of that in some form right? i admit complete ignorance in this area, but for the sake of this thread would like to understand how they are in control.★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Neoconservative. Zionist. All the same thing Dthe war party - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4
Like I said in many of my quotes to Brown nose. Zionist run us all. Europe USA etc. the same people who run us run you. Israel
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and i still don't understand the money being the root of all evil thing either.... think that got passed over.
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〓BROWN🎵NOTE〓 wrote:
★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
I agree. Maybe it was United Airlines, those sneaky bastages. Maybe it was those shifty sky waitresses. I mean, we don't know who could have done it, right?brown note is trying awfully hard to cloud the topic and make everyone look elsewhere, maybe he knows a little too much.... hmmmm
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we need olivia pope on this... she could figure it out :)
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@Brown. Yes every country as screening of world matters.
But as a few links by experts have pointed out the collapse of a building to fall so quick is very very rare.
Then there's the links explaining why the building fell so quick by another expert.But I can't help but notice all the explanations are done by American experts who probably got paid for there troubles by the American government .?
I'm no expert but reading between the lines no sky scraper as fell like this because of fire before!
But for 3 to fall so quick . ?
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https://europeanmediacentre.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/list-of-banks-owned-by-the-jewish-rothschild-family/
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