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Where a lot of angry people argue and fight about who has the best imaginary friend. I just don't get it. Always good for a debate though...
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Any Jedi's? It's a recognized religion in the UK.
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I'm atheist(spelling)for that reason, my wife and children are roman catholic, I don't see a problem with anyone practising any certain religion, but when it leads to bloodspill I think it's Goin to far, look at the trouble in the east🙎🙎🙎🙎 makes me angry
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jay k wrote:
exactly what I am getting at!!! (this is only my personal view) but it has got to be a form of social conditioning? Be good, do what God says then f*ckin die. Religion has caused how many deaths? And still is...I'm atheist(spelling)for that reason, my wife and children are roman catholic, I don't see a problem with anyone practising any certain religion, but when it leads to bloodspill I think it's Goin to far, look at the trouble in the east🙎🙎🙎🙎 makes me angry
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Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
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spiffykilla wrote:
I've never heard of a Buddhist extremist going mad and killing loads of people.Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
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randombloke wrote:
what a good call! I have friends who cross many religions. I have a Muslim friend who is currently fasting. I am Church of England (apparently). I am not about to say any religion is wrong. It can't be proved so therefore, everyone is right. I wish I could believe in a religion so strongly that when it's my time I am 100% sure i'm going somewhere good...spiffykilla wrote:
I've never heard of a Buddhist extremist going mad and killing loads of people.Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
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Reaper1 wrote:
Pascal's gambit. French philosopher who said that even if you don't believe in religion/god you should still do the religious stuff just in case there is a god/heaven as there is no proof.randombloke wrote:
what a good call! I have friends who cross many religions. I have a Muslim friend who is currently fasting. I am Church of England (apparently). I am not about to say any religion is wrong. It can't be proved so therefore, everyone is right. I wish I could believe in a religion so strongly that when it's my time I am 100% sure i'm going somewhere good...spiffykilla wrote:
I've never heard of a Buddhist extremist going mad and killing loads of people.Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
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Reaper1 wrote:
I feel the same, however I haven't been brainwashed and I'm not ignorant.randombloke wrote:
what a good call! I have friends who cross many religions. I have a Muslim friend who is currently fasting. I am Church of England (apparently). I am not about to say any religion is wrong. It can't be proved so therefore, everyone is right. I wish I could believe in a religion so strongly that when it's my time I am 100% sure i'm going somewhere good...spiffykilla wrote:
I've never heard of a Buddhist extremist going mad and killing loads of people.Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
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"It can't be proven therefore everything is right"
???? Doesn't make sense
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randombloke wrote:
spiffykilla wrote:
I've never heard of a Buddhist extremist going mad and killing loads of people.Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
word!
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GatorFarm wrote:
It means that, because we have no proof that it's wrong, than if you personally think it's right, well that means its right."It can't be proven therefore everything is right"
???? Doesn't make sense
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It only happens if you think it. The world is nothing. There is no bad, good, god, etc. Until you think about it. Then people want imaginary friends, so they make a religion.
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randombloke wrote:
well no because an extreme buddhist probably is far too peaceful to harm anyone buddhism is all about peace not killingspiffykilla wrote:
I've never heard of a Buddhist extremist going mad and killing loads of people.Look its the extremists that ruin it there is nothing wrong with a regular muslim, christian or jew its the extrenists that kill because of religion that ruin it
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To Howard from th other forum
The fact that you mentioned people being Christians for finacial reasons appears you believe it is a large chunk still. Can you explain what you mean by this? And sure brainwashed and stubborn people exist no matter the religion, but from your comments you don't appear to be the most open minded person yourself.
So you want to know the difference between a colt and a religion? Well i assume u basically know what a religion is but the other I think is a baby horse, a male one if I am not mistaken.
(Sorry couldn't resist) Honesly I would say nothing, besides public opinion. In my opinion a religion is simply a set of beliefs. Anyone can make up a religion, and when they are far fetched and don't have much of a following they are usually called cults by our society. I also belief atheism is a religion by the same definition. Just as I put my faith in something so do you. My happens to be supernatural, and yours happens to be unexplainable.
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Not sure why u were pressing that question as if it would debunk my beliefs though?
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Rumply's gf wrote:
GatorFarm wrote:
It means that, because we have no proof that it's wrong, than if you personally think it's right, well that means its right."It can't be proven therefore everything is right"
???? Doesn't make sense
Hmmm, ok nvm now it makes much better sense, thanks!
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Ok gator first, to explain people in religion for money. Perhaps all people in religion are brainwashed now but i'm not sure. Let's think about it, preists, vicars etc get a free house, money and food for talking about a god, if you were an atheist but needed money then why not do it? Look at people like the pope, the luxury they live in. And now look at when religions were created, people found it hard to make money and get by in life, so let's think of this as a buissness for a minute, if you could make something up that people believe in and give you money for it, would you do it? Of course! Now when your looking at it like a buissness what would be ideal? Something bad happening if you don't give your money to the creator. It's a perfect buissness.
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When you say about cults and religions being the same thing I agree! Religions just have more followers, many religious people would go mad a cults where children are brainwashed into believing a certain idea. However when parents send children to religious schools they are taught only one idea, only the idea of creationism or whatever that religion believes in. This is outrageous would you not agree?
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GatorFarm wrote:
Haha just adding it to a pile of reasons why religious people are all very similar. However I do hope I can save you from wasting you life and money yes. And I am very open minded I was quite religious at a point in my life, but just had to think about it with an open mind. Also I've never meet a religious person with a decent argument for religion.Not sure why u were pressing that question as if it would debunk my beliefs though?
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In regard to the money issue:
That goes against your point really because you were saying a lot of people are Christians for money purposes. But what percentage of Christians are priests, etc, That get these benefits u speak of? Not a significant enough amount to argue your point. Not to mention Those of these Christians who are the vast, vast majority in your scenario are the ones giving The money. So the opposite of your point is in fact true. That if you are a Christian you are far more likely to lose money then gain.
If you wan to change your point to, "people become priests, pastors, etc for money it would have more merit"
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Howard wrote:
When you say about cults and religions being the same thing I agree! Religions just have more followers, many religious people would go mad a cults where children are brainwashed into believing a certain idea. However when parents send children to religious schools they are taught only one idea, only the idea of creationism or whatever that religion believes in. This is outrageous would you not agree?
Of course, I would not agree because they have freedom of religion in American and can send their children wherever they want. Cults usually have other characteristics that make them more bizarre to the norms of society but since it is all public opinion it is not worth debating.
Now atheism is no different really I have faith that God created life on Earth, you have faith that some unknown mechanism created life. Examples like these expose atheism for what it is a religion
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Howard wrote:
GatorFarm wrote:
Haha just adding it to a pile of reasons why religious people are all very similar. However I do hope I can save you from wasting you life and money yes. And I am very open minded I was quite religious at a point in my life, but just had to think about it with an open mind. Also I've never meet a religious person with a decent argument for religion.Not sure why u were pressing that question as if it would debunk my beliefs though?
Have you read "Mere Christianity" by CS Lewis??
Or "The Reason for God" by Timothy Keller
They make many points that are extremely well explained.
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GatorFarm wrote: Of course, I would not agree because they have freedom of religion in American and can send their children wherever they want. Cults usually have other characteristics that make them more bizarre to the norms of society but since it is all public opinion it is not worth debating.
Atheism is in no way a religion. Try looking up religion in a dictionary. Atheism doesn't match whatsoeverNow atheism is no different really I have faith that God created life on Earth, you have faith that some unknown mechanism created life. Examples like these expose atheism for what it is a religion
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Every religion has the right to exist, but what I hate is when people who believe in one religion critize the other. Every religion (correct me if I'm wrong) has killed people or caused deaths because they wouldn't allow the other religions... IMO, I think that maybe if there's one religion that's right, well the priest or leader never followed the rules that well. Therefore, even if there used to be a "right" religion, it was changed and manipulated (because no "good" god would ask humans to kill each other because of belief) and as a result there's currently no "good" religion. Only ones I see that are exepted by this is the buddhists (spelling) because they're so peaceful, and the Mormons because they're recent and didn't have time to do that much yet... But that's just IMO..
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&devilius. Look up the Mormons in more detail. They have alot of blood on their hands. I should know. My greatgrandfather was an avenging angel
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👿βΣŁĮÅŁ wrote:
GatorFarm wrote: Of course, I would not agree because they have freedom of religion in American and can send their children wherever they want. Cults usually have other characteristics that make them more bizarre to the norms of society but since it is all public opinion it is not worth debating.
Atheism is in no way a religion. Try looking up religion in a dictionary. Atheism doesn't match whatsoeverNow atheism is no different really I have faith that God created life on Earth, you have faith that some unknown mechanism created life. Examples like these expose atheism for what it is a religion
Correct by standard definition atheism is not a religion, I am simply saying that religion is based on putting faith in things that are unknown for certain, which is exactly what atheists do! So where do they get the right to bash religion? Hypocritical if you ask me....
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Athiesm denies the existence of god and places the individual in His place. Quite often atheists are as fervent evangelists for their school of thought as their religious counterparts....
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It's all cool. No ones right. No ones wrong. Growing up through school we had to assemble ever morning and pray and sing hymns. Any other religion had to sit outside. I never knock anyones beliefs. If it comforts you then brilliant! I personally find religion hard to swallow. I agree with Howards point tbh
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The original Christians all died poor and thousands have been martyred for their faith. Even now millions and millions of Christians are persecuted for their faith and die without money.
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Johnny Cage 👊add cage👊 wrote:
Now that's deep! But so true!Athiesm denies the existence of god and places the individual in His place. Quite often atheists are as fervent evangelists for their school of thought as their religious counterparts....
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