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Brown, you've got a sick sense of humor. Priceless.
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🇬🇧B͚O͚D͚G͚E͚R͚™ wrote:
I hope not debate is good and reliably civil just because its blunt doesn't mean not accurate, true or free speechThis post will be deleted very soon I imagine! Lol
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[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
Where in history has that not worked? Poop? Pft. Every major civilization has done it. Our world today is the result of this 'Poop'. It's where real progress and peace comes from.But in this case Brown, you'd not only have to kill the Palestinians, the Egyptions, the Iranians, and any other Islamic states/muslim groups who would oppose the genocide you say is the answer, but you'd have to erase their ideology too.
You would also need to eradicate all knowledge of the barbarism used to secure 'peace', to ensure no further dissent from third parties (i.e. all the other nations of the world).
In short, your 'final solution', is poop. -
Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
TIL Hitler made real progress and peace[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
Where in history has that not worked? Poop? Pft. Every major civilization has done it. Our world today is the result of this 'Poop'. It's where real progress and peace comes from.But in this case Brown, you'd not only have to kill the Palestinians, the Egyptions, the Iranians, and any other Islamic states/muslim groups who would oppose the genocide you say is the answer, but you'd have to erase their ideology too.
You would also need to eradicate all knowledge of the barbarism used to secure 'peace', to ensure no further dissent from third parties (i.e. all the other nations of the world).
In short, your 'final solution', is poop. -
✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
Tiny little England did it with nothing but "modern" weapons and brutality. If Israel unleashes full on war, as they did very briefly twice before, they would decimate their neighbors. Remember last time?And I can guarantee you that one side will never be "squashed" as you so eloquently put it. Isreal has too much money and the middle east has too many Muslims, to put it bluntly.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Yep, the British empire was made on brutality. That was before instant mass media. Fancy waking up every day to the pictures of dead and dying civilians? The voting masses wouldn't.[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
Where in history has that not worked? Poop? Pft. Every major civilization has done it. Our world today is the result of this 'Poop'. It's where real progress and peace comes from.But in this case Brown, you'd not only have to kill the Palestinians, the Egyptions, the Iranians, and any other Islamic states/muslim groups who would oppose the genocide you say is the answer, but you'd have to erase their ideology too.
You would also need to eradicate all knowledge of the barbarism used to secure 'peace', to ensure no further dissent from third parties (i.e. all the other nations of the world).
In short, your 'final solution', is poop. -
ㄕλπㄢλपㅁπ wrote: TIL Hitler made real progress and peace
What do you call our response? ALL OUT BRUTAL CRUSHING DOMINANCE. Guess what? No more suffering in Europe. Don't you see?You think what we have here is war? No. This is a drawn-out, limited exchange perforated with peace talks. War is 1967 and 1973. Every surrounding nation was decimated militarily by Israel in less than a month each time.
Now it's about restraint, and fairness, peace talks... This could have been over in 1977, BUT EVERY TIME, Israel opts for peace and respect and giving the poor backwards refugees sovereign territory, when all that will happen is more rock throwing, bombing, killing...
You think Israel does these things? No. They only give "measured response". Bah.
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★fnord★ wrote:
Heheheh. It's funny because its true.Brown, you've got a sick sense of humor. Priceless.
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The problem with the smash all take all then declare peace solution, is that those to be squashed are a lot wealthier in terms of "modern" weapons these days. Back in the glory days of the British empire, they were fighting spears, snares and men with sticks riding on the backs of elephants.
As much as I hate to admit it though, the only way to secure a peaceful world, is with total annihilation. Peace can never prosper in a world tainted by capitalism, corruption and the need of man to be supreme.
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AND AS FOR ERASING IDEOLOGY:
Yes, by all means. Religion is once again the excuse for this conflict. Swirling chicken bones and talking bushes. Why lies and delusions influence so many people is a real puzzler.
My invisible space alien friend said I can live here. Pack yer shit and git out!
The fact is, land is owned by those that buy it or take it by force. Just like turf wars. Peace happens when the war is won. Just like turf wars.
Putting Hamas in the ER will not win the war. Cap those tiny-mobbed bitches already.
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⚜Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т⚜ wrote:
Tainted by capitalism? Ignore.The problem with the smash all take all then declare peace solution, is that those to be squashed are a lot wealthier in terms of "modern" weapons these days. Back in the glory days of the British empire, they were fighting spears, snares and men with sticks riding on the backs of elephants.
As much as I hate to admit it though, the only way to secure a peaceful world, is with total annihilation. Peace can never prosper in a world tainted by capitalism, corruption and the need of man to be supreme.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Yes, the breeding ground of greed, corruption and war. The very thing that drives enconomic growth is the very thing which breaks it too.⚜Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т⚜ wrote:
Tainted by capitalism? Ignore.The problem with the smash all take all then declare peace solution, is that those to be squashed are a lot wealthier in terms of "modern" weapons these days. Back in the glory days of the British empire, they were fighting spears, snares and men with sticks riding on the backs of elephants.
As much as I hate to admit it though, the only way to secure a peaceful world, is with total annihilation. Peace can never prosper in a world tainted by capitalism, corruption and the need of man to be supreme.
Capitalism isn't a saviour or a sustainable answer to anything. Much the same way violence and murder can not be a justified response to violence and murder.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
So the Indians have a right to start car bombing all of us??Basically, if you are going to quash the land rights of a population, you had better be prepared to devastate the displaced people. Might doesn't make right. But it *can* make peace. Don't give them sovereign territory from which to launch guerrilla warfare!
Palestinians move away from Israel, live peacefully within Israel as a group, or die as a group within Israel. Justice has nothing to do with it. Do not leave them hope of fighting back to reclaim their land, or they will try! When they try, end it quickly. Get everyone back to prosperity as soon as possible. Prosperity means peace, happiness, and security. It means advancement, education, and the elimination of bronze-age superstition.
So spake brown stain.
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Some of you may be to young to remember but I remember in history class when it was Christians vs Jews. Then it was Jews and Muslims vs Christians. Then it was Christians and Jews vs Muslims. Then... It was Israelis vs Muslims. Then Israelis vs Arabs. Then Israelis vs Syria, Egypt + Jordan. Then Israel vs PLO. Then Israel vs the Palestinian authority. Now it's Israel vs Hamas.
It seems to me that the belligerents are getting smaller in number but the stakes and the fights are getting bigger.
Best solution, throw out the Jews. Throw out the Palestinians and the Christians and let the Buddhists in. Simple.
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✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
As for "mowing down" innocent women and children, I am saddened that someone removed from the conflict can come to that conclusion. I prefer to try to understand both sides and assess it from a neutral, rational, humanitarian and logical position. I can solve every problem in my life without violence and we are all capable of the same things.
If someone shoots a rocket into your house, how do you solve that without violence. Hamas doesn't think Israel has a right to exist. They trick their own weak and young into blowing themselves up! How can you possibly rationalize with that kind if thinking?
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randombloke wrote:
Yeah, but then then everyone who has been kicked out would be given a crap load of weapons and cash from the civilised world and supported in taking back their land. JCP militia would be born. The Buddhists would then be forced to mob up, even though it would mean bending their rules a little. Circles of life end with death.Some of you may be to young to remember but I remember in history class when it was Christians vs Jews. Then it was Jews and Muslims vs Christians. Then it was Christians and Jews vs Muslims. Then... It was Israelis vs Muslims. Then Israelis vs Arabs. Then Israelis vs Syria, Egypt + Jordan. Then Israel vs PLO. Then Israel vs the Palestinian authority. Now it's Israel vs Hamas.
Best solution, throw out the Jews. Throw out the Palestinians and the Christians and let the Buddhists in. Simple.
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[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
i dont believe brown called for genocide. you can brutally suppress resistance without genocide. examples: native americans, chinese democracy advocates, jews(by the romans), and pretty much anyone conquered by the romans. not advocating it but he does have a point.Ha ha, brown!
Can't you see the world?!
There are over one and a half billion Muslims on the planet!
Your 'solution' would need to eradicate them all, and any sympathisers, which would include most of the world. No one but a minority would allow this genocide to happen.
You might as well propose the 'cure' for influenza was to burn alive all those afflicted with it.
also eradicating carriers of a virus before it spreads does work. it's the reason viruses like ebola that kill quickly do not spread and wipe us out. they kill their hosts before they have a chance to infect others. again not saying its a plan i would endorse but it would work. -
Big Stanky wrote:
I control my futur by not associating with people with rocket launchers.✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
As for "mowing down" innocent women and children, I am saddened that someone removed from the conflict can come to that conclusion. I prefer to try to understand both sides and assess it from a neutral, rational, humanitarian and logical position. I can solve every problem in my life without violence and we are all capable of the same things.
If someone shoots a rocket into your house, how do you solve that without violence. Hamas doesn't think Israel has a right to exist. They trick their own weak and young into blowing themselves up! How can you possibly rationalize with that kind if thinking?
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
It didn't work if it's still a problem, what will make it work if you kill a bunch of innocent people? I'm missing your logic. Something needs to change, and that's evident.✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
Tiny little England did it with nothing but "modern" weapons and brutality. If Israel unleashes full on war, as they did very briefly twice before, they would decimate their neighbors. Remember last time?And I can guarantee you that one side will never be "squashed" as you so eloquently put it. Isreal has too much money and the middle east has too many Muslims, to put it bluntly.
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[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
+ An infinite amount of +1'sHa ha, brown!
Can't you see the world?!
There are over one and a half billion Muslims on the planet!
Your 'solution' would need to eradicate them all, and any sympathisers, which would include most of the world. No one but a minority would allow this genocide to happen.
You might as well propose the 'cure' for influenza was to burn alive all those afflicted with it. -
✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
It didn't work because they stopped kicking ass and opted for peace. Israel is surrounded by people who don't want them to exist. They have the right bomb the shit out of anyone who tries to eradicate them.Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
It didn't work if it's still a problem, what will make it work if you kill a bunch of innocent people? I'm missing your logic. Something needs to change, and that's evident.✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
Tiny little England did it with nothing but "modern" weapons and brutality. If Israel unleashes full on war, as they did very briefly twice before, they would decimate their neighbors. Remember last time?And I can guarantee you that one side will never be "squashed" as you so eloquently put it. Isreal has too much money and the middle east has too many Muslims, to put it bluntly.
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Haha they "opted for peace" after they had "drawn in" Isreal. Both sides share your guys view, how can you not see that.
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✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
How can you not see that there is no just solution here? No just solution, and you are left with war. Now, do you fight this war with all you've got, or do you poke the bulldog through the fence with a stick for 50 years? You seem to think its a war now, and the solution is to hug one another and stop being mean.Haha they "opted for peace" after they had "drawn in" Isreal. Both sides share your guys view, how can you not see that.
It's not war now. It's hugging and back-stabbing. War is what we need to end the suffering. When one side is devastated, peace and prosperity can finally begin.
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Let's look at a parallel. The American Civil War. Grant and Sherman had one goal: to end the war as quickly as possible, and with as few deaths as possible.
How did they do this? Shock and awe kinda stuff. Burn cities, terrorize civilians, and generally devastate the South while regular armies fought to the North. The Southern soldiers were broken by news of their homes burned and their families tormented, and a hundred thousand deserted.
End conflict with brutality? This is not a contradiction. Sherman said: "The more cruelty we inflict, the sooner this will end."
I see this painful, long, drawn out suffering over there which was artificially created in part by US foreign policy, and I wish for it to end. Israel has taken land that they claim belongs to them. End the suffering with some cruelty.
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Lol, I can't help but hear Ride of the Valkyries in my head.
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★fnord★ wrote:
Good surfin' on the delta.Lol, I can't help but hear Ride of the Valkyries in my head.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Charlie don't surf.★fnord★ wrote:
Good surfin' on the delta.Lol, I can't help but hear Ride of the Valkyries in my head.
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Ok brown, how about instead of Israel trying to 'crush' the Palestinians, which could embroil the rest of the region.
Would it not be easier for the 6million ish Jews to pack up and leave?
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[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
Ok brown, how about instead of Israel trying to 'crush' the Palestinians, which could embroil the rest of the region.
Would it not be easier for the 6million ish Jews to pack up and leave?
Or were you only thinking of a solution acceptable to the Israelis?NOW its getting interesting....
Yeah, brown, wouldnt it be easier to "nuke" the shit out of all Israelian people, with a green, healthy atombomb...?
Would be a faster way to peace as there are "only" 6 millons of them (as Boffer says).
We could pack those that survive into camps....has anyone an idea to name those camps? Concentrate, guys, concentrate....That would shock and awe the Israelian people, belive me.
And hell yeah, we would have that middle east problem easily solved.
Just kill 6 MILLION people.
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[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
Uhhhhh, we crushed the Iraqis. We crushed the Afghanis. The Japanese. The Germans. The Italians. The Spanish. The Confederates. The Native Americans. I guess all that did was embroil the various regions. No... It made peace.Ok brown, how about instead of Israel trying to 'crush' the Palestinians, which could embroil the rest of the region.
Would it not be easier for the 6million ish Jews to pack up and leave?
Or were you only thinking of a solution acceptable to the Israelis?And who will tell the 6 million Jews to leave? They named the cities there long before the Palestinians arrived. They have no right? Where would you send them? Why should the advanced, progressive, modern, peaceful people have to move? Why not the weaker group? Why not the terrorists?
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