Debate on child molesters and fatal revenge
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@Phoenix - am I to understand your post s saying that the more vigilante justice we have in the world, the less inclined people are to break the law?
@Olsen - you love and care for your children, and want to keep them safe. That is being a good parent. How is going to prison for murder, and serving 10+ years (possibly death penalty in some countries) being a good parent?
@Tommy - I'm not sure what you mean by being in law enforcement. It frightens me to think you may actually walk around a community somewhere with a badge and firearm. Not only do you express a desire to kill said perpetrator, you also seem to advocate killing anyone who does not agree that you are right to do so.
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So let me ask, specifically brown who has kids and maby Katie who I suspect hasn't, how would you react if put in the situation of the father in Texas, at that very instant he realised what was happening?
I think some are playing devils advocate here, that's good for balanced debate but I'd like your honest answer when faced with the above scenario. -
To answer the above posters question, i am very sure, im also a parent, that brown note would not even think twice, and alomost do the same. Maybe not actually kill him, but do enough damage to the rapist so he wont get away.
Another point i wanted to add, by reading all these post, it almost seems like popeople are looking for a way to justify the rapists actions because "something happened to him" when he was younger.
Im going to be honest, but that excuse just sickens me. There is no way you can justify a rape on those terms. I hope you get my point?
It would be like i am justyfied to kill a man because he did something to me 10 years ago. -
You suspect I don't have children because I refuse to beat another human being to death?
I don't know how I would react. It hasn't happened to me. It hasn't happened to anyone I know. I've heard about a few isolated incidents in the news, and seen a lot of it happen on CSI/Criminal Minds et al. It is extremely rare that a perp is caught in the act. What's more, as I think someone already mentioned earlier, it is usually the childs own father, brother, uncle, cousin, gramps, neighbor, friends father, stepfather, teacher, or coach who diddles little children. In extremely rare cases it is a woman. These scenarios that are mentioned of some sex crazed maniac who preys on children that breaks into the house or jumps out of a bush somewhere aren't as frequent as the writers of the aforementioned shows will have you think...
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... But ok, I'll indulge you. IF I were to catch a complete stranger violently molesting my child I think the act would end the second he was discovered. He would be shocked, ashamed, and afraid. He would then run away for fear of being caught. My main concern would then be to stay with my child, to comfort my child, to hold him/her, to speak gently with him/her.
IF this crazed pedophile didn't run the instant I discoved him in the act I would do whatever I could to end the assault. Hit, kick, scream, bite, claw, all of it. But as soon as my child was free of him I would turn to my child.
And no, I still wouldn't hunt the person down after the fact and kill him.
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Maybe Katie wrote:
Anyone who does those things is not a person but an animal. I consider the taking of human life very serious, I've experienced it first hand. I am normally a very gentle and loving person. That said I would feel no shame in removing from the earth anyone who would do that to my daughter. If you want to mourn the life of some sick sociopath and paint me the bad guy in that scenario then good for you.And no, I still wouldn't hunt the person down after the fact and kill him.
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💀ṉͥōƀͣōͫƌỷ💀 wrote:
You assume I would mourn someone you kill because I wouldn't kill him myself?Maybe Katie wrote:
Anyone who does those things is not a person but an animal. I consider the taking of human life very serious, I've experienced it first hand. I am normally a very gentle and loving person. That said I would feel no shame in removing from the earth anyone who would do that to my daughter. If you want to mourn the life of some sick sociopath and paint me the bad guy in that scenario then good for you.And no, I still wouldn't hunt the person down after the fact and kill him.
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No it's because you don't come across as being old enough to have chilldren. Nothing to do will killing the said person. If I'm wrong please take it as a compliment.
No one mentioned blokes jumping out of hedges, that's just silly all of us are aware of the typical profile of a child molester.
Your demonizing them into some mythical bogeymen when the reality is there everyday guys/girls.So the answer is no, if you stumbled across a man sexually abusing your chilld in a barn, like the fella in texas you wouldn't kill him. That's cool and very brave, I admire your restraint, I couldn't.
I do think your assumption that they would run and hide when discoverd is a dangerous underestimation of the person, Id like to think you were right but who knows, again it's not a chance I'd take. -
I don't quite understand what in my post makes me come across as someone too young to have children and who demonizes some boogieman. I must have been extremely unclear in what I'm saying to have been misunderstood in this manner. Feel free to disregard my previous blabber...
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I have no desire to kill a human being, but a person so sick as to abuse someone weaker than him, he is an animal.
What do you mean by vigilante justice? -
Let me just say this... In 1996, someone broke into my car outside my home and stole speakers, amps, and a fat book of all my CDs I had under the seat.
I wanted the guy dead.
When a person is "violated" in any way, it's personal. Breaking and entering a home, dead. Getting in a fist fight with my little brother, dead.
I understand the emotion. But in a civilized society, the right thing to do is kill only to save a life, in a last option senario.
@Tommy: We are ALL animals. In that situation, killing is justified only to save the life of the victim. If you are in law enforcement, you had better learn that quickly. It's your job to protect, not to be judge Judy and executioner. (To quote Nick Frost...)
Impartial justice. It's not just a good idea. It's the law.
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So you are saying that you are unable to restrain your primal urge to kill. No matter what society asks of you, no matter what is considered moral or just, you will hunt and kill these people.
So, how are you better than someone that does the same thing, except touching instead of killing?
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I myself don't have it in me to kill any living thing (as in animals humans and the occasional butterfly since there, well butterfly's) your just as bad as a murderer if you kill the person who committed the crime also to you tommy that's sick and horrible but I imagine someone that purely evil is in some way mentally unstable and would most certainly need rehabilitation killing them is not the answer and I know the following is out of context but why the hell would he rape her with a stick... I mean thats just I don't even know how to respond to that it's just a sick thing to imagine
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@Maybe Katie, I personally believe that it is (warning, blanket statement to follow) generally a woman's first reaction to comfort and assist somebody in need. On the other hand, a man is generally more likely to want to protect and provide for somebody weaker than himself.
This is why males are naturally (again, blanket statement) physically stronger than females - we have, up until recent times, been the one that hunted for food, fought wars to provide land and homes, and, in extreme cases, killed to protect.
I respect your opinions and ideals, but I also respectfully disagree with them. You are welcome to comfort your child - I will protect mine.
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♠Ƭϋʀғä♠ wrote:
I don't want to get picky... But hunting was traditionally woman's work. Exhibit A: Lions. Men are only strong so that they can fight over sex rights. The hormone that drives sex is the same one that makes us bulkier. :P@Maybe Katie, I personally believe that...✂
This is why males are naturally (again, blanket statement) physically stronger than females - we have, up until recent times, been the one that hunted for food, fought wars to provide land and homes, and, in extreme cases, killed to protect.
I respect your opinions and ideals, but I also respectfully disagree with them. You are welcome to comfort your child - I will protect mine.
Male purpose: Stud. Female purpose: Survival.
See? Men are stupid.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Lol. Men can be stupid, I won't deny that 😜♠Ƭϋʀғä♠ wrote: ♠✂♠
I don't want to get picky... But hunting was traditionally woman's work. Exhibit A: Lions. Men are only strong so that they can fight over sex rights. The hormone that drives sex is the same one that makes us bulkier. :PMale purpose: Stud. Female purpose: Survival.
See? Men are stupid.
Re. Exhibit A.: ... We aren't lions. We're humans. Traditionally, the male human has provided food and shelter for his mate and offspring.
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YOU wrote:
For those who like to add things to what people say. Nowhere in this post did I express the desire to kill this person or others who think that having sex with your children is ok. What I did say was that people who would like to have sex with your children and the people who defend them have no place on this earth.I work in law enforcement. Heres a dose of real life. Think about this. A man rapes a 5 year old girl. Then he rapes her with a stick, so hard that it punctures trough to her intestines and stomach. Then smashes her head with a rock. Any piece of shit that would have sex with a child or think that it is ok is only wasting good air and space on this planet. Anyone who dose not agree you too have no place on this earth👆!
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They take up space that honest hard-working people could put to better use. There's a portion of society that 99% of the worlds population does not deal with on a regular basis and some even deny that it exists. So most people just can't understand what you and your children maybe standing next to you in the grocery store and you never will. I hope you never have to deal with what thousands of families have to deal with every day. But never forget there are those who have chosen to give their life if need be to make sure you are safe, no what your views are. There is no debate! I'm done. 👋
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say a 13 y/o for eg. had her breast held for a "bra fitting" by an everyday community/family man who does nothin but good. what would that be considered? take a man that has a family abd a young teenager in a room by themselves and he obly touches her, any thoughts??
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excuse the fail spelling =]
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Hello KillerKitty. Been awhile since we spoke, eh?
I don't really understand your point. What are you getting at?
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I'd cut his cock off and do my time in prison
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According to National Geographic, sex-based labor division only started between 45,000 and 10,000 years ago. And then, females and children performed hunter/gathering and shelter building duties. Men only hunted where large game was necessary for survival.
For the vast majority of our species' history, there was no evidence of sex-based labor roles.
You mean traditionally in modern human history, like in "Leave it to Beaver".
Men are evolved to fight each other for sex, it's really that simple.
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I had a stalker when I was seven. The guy actually was stalking several kids at the same time. I received a phone call one day while I was at practice for the swim team. Thankfully my mom taught me never to go with any one even her friends unless I was told ahead of time to do so. He was parked outside, across the street. He tried to tell me my mom asked him to come pick me up and drive me to her work. I said ok, but I knew it wasn't true and it was strange. So I told the people working at the front desk and I went back into the pool. Anyways the guy was stalking I think 6 kids, both boys and girls. He ended up being arrested and going to jail. Luckily he was caught before he got any of us.
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Tommy the Glock wrote: ...What I did say was that people who would like to have sex with your children and the people who defend them have no place on this earth.
You are literally saying that sex offenders do not deserve a legal defense. You are saying that these defense attorneys "have no place on this Earth".Worse, you are saying that for observing the rules of our society, I have no place on this Earth.
We are all animals, but what makes us civilized is our willingness to surrender self-imposed justice to government authority and an impartial judge, no matter the crime.
If you can't do that, you are uncivilized the same as the sex offenders. What you might call an "animal".
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I'm a parent of two kids. I'd kill that fucker dead. If I had opportunity, I'd make it slow and painful. If I didn't, it would be two to the chest and one in the head.
Katie: You are incredibly wrong. Maybe when you live in the real world for a while, you might get in touch with reality. You might understand one day.
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Oh, and I totally agree with Tommy the Glock. 100%.
...and if you don't, then you are wrong.
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♠Ƭϋʀғä♠ wrote:
But spending 10 years in prison is not protecting your child. It's irresponsible and frankly dumb. You child will resent you for that!@Maybe Katie, I personally believe that it is (warning, blanket statement to follow) generally a woman's first reaction to comfort and assist somebody in need. On the other hand, a man is generally more likely to want to protect and provide for somebody weaker than himself.
This is why males are naturally (again, blanket statement) physically stronger than females - we have, up until recent times, been the one that hunted for food, fought wars to provide land and homes, and, in extreme cases, killed to protect.
I respect your opinions and ideals, but I also respectfully disagree with them. You are welcome to comfort your child - I will protect mine.
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RevStraylight wrote:
Yeah! Screw society and the "law"! What good are they?Oh, and I totally agree with Tommy the Glock. 100%.
...and if you don't, then you are wrong.
God damned troglodytes can't even nod their head at a social contract.
Just open fire, torture, kill, maim, and punish all on your own prerogative, because dang it! YOU'RE RIGHT!
Anyone that thinks they are right, the rules don't apply to you, so have fun!
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RevStraylight wrote:
You are so off base ere I don't know where to start. First while your child is being raped, whic is already traumatic, you want to kill in cold blood in front of them causing more traumatic events to that poor child. Then you will most likely spend several years if not life in prison. What kind of father does that?I'm a parent of two kids. I'd kill that fucker dead. If I had opportunity, I'd make it slow and painful. If I didn't, it would be two to the chest and one in the head.
Katie: You are incredibly wrong. Maybe when you live in the real world for a while, you might get in touch with reality. You might understand one day.
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