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Dino Marchetti wrote:
Ok I'm back first off you don't get to pick and choose things from the bible that support your belief then leave out the things the don't. That's an argument from ignorance. And FYI all the commandments are in the in old testament and you still think those should be followed. We judge you on how you should've judged as bigots and oppressors.Hebrew Hitman wrote:
Many non-Christians pick pieces from the bible that they do not understand and try to use them as weapons as to why Christianity is flawed. Sadly, it is your premise that is flawed. Christians hold a new covenant. You're trying to judge us with the old. However, some things (like abominations to God) ARE universal. PM me for an open discussion..
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Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
There you go. 👍
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Trauger Jogger wrote:
That's a picture from my Facebook page lolI've never seen so many Christians line up to help homeless shelters or food kitchens, which is something Jesus would rather we do.
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Here you go smart guy. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."
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The one and only statement regarding homosexuality in the new testament:
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.A little back story: This was written by Paul after he visited the long PAGAN capitol city of Rome and was incredibly butthurt that they had no idea that his newly invented Christian god even existed. He goes on...
29...They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they DISOBEY THEIR PARENTS...
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Notice how Paul in Romans never uses the word abomination or sin as Dino likes to do. He doesn't invoke god's wrath or condemn them to hell as Dino does. The worst thing that the entire new testament has to say about homosexuality is that in Paul's opinion it is "shameful". God's universal law? Hardly. Just an ancient, bitter, probably closeted homophobe who most likely just walked into the wrong bathhouse in Rome and felt bad about it the next day.
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★fnord★ wrote:
Lmfao😂😂😂Notice how Paul in Romans never uses the word abomination or sin as Dino likes to do. He doesn't invoke god's wrath or condemn them to hell as Dino does. The worst thing that the entire new testament has to say about homosexuality is that in Paul's opinion it is "shameful". God's universal law? Hardly. Just an ancient, bitter, probably closeted homophobe who most likely just walked into the wrong bathhouse in Rome and felt bad about it the next day.
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Hebrew Hitman wrote:
I never said it wasn't in the bible. I simply said it was part of a covenant to which I am not attached. And I never said God hates gays. He loves them. But He does not like the sinful acts they perform. He doesn't like mine either. But, I'm not justifying mine nor asking for support in my commission of them.Here you go smart guy. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."
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See?! This shit brings out the worst in me And I can't bring myself to stay away from it. I wanna thank everyone who does support us, in any way shape or form. I appreciate those who know the right way to argue this. Some of aren't religious and can smell the idiocracy and hypocrisy a mile away. It's common sense. thanks.
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Dino, where in your new covenant does it say that homosexuality is a sin? Please enlighten me, I cannot find it. Sinning aside, It's not even clear in Romans what exactly Paul is calling shameful. Is giving yourself over to lustful acts shameful? Is denying your true nature shameful? What is Paul trying to say there?
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🔰ਸᏧᏧ ℜⱥ༏Ҡℴ ц🔰 wrote:
Please tell me...what is the right way to argue this?See?! This shit brings out the worst in me And I can't bring myself to stay away from it. I wanna thank everyone who does support us, in any way shape or form. I appreciate those who know the right way to argue this. Some of aren't religious and can smell the idiocracy and hypocrisy a mile away. It's common sense. thanks.
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Dino Marchetti wrote:
See, I don't think god is real. I don't believe in sin. I only believe in right and wrong. So to me, and people like me, homosexuality is not a sin, and being an asshole to gays is wrong. According to my religious beliefs, people like you are the abomination. and it's a bit unfair that my religious beliefs aren't enforced by law while the beliefs of Christians are.Hebrew Hitman wrote:
I never said it wasn't in the bible. I simply said it was part of a covenant to which I am not attached. And I never said God hates gays. He loves them. But He does not like the sinful acts they perform. He doesn't like mine either. But, I'm not justifying mine nor asking for support in my commission of them.✂
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★fnord★ wrote:
Finally. A good honest question. I do not believe it is directly addressed in the new covenant. A covenant is an agreement. I agree to do this and you agree to do that. When the old covenant was laid out, homosexual acts were defined as an abomination. Unless they've been redefined, we must conclude they are still such. The example of stoning the child was a part of the laundry list of parts of that agreement. The new covenant does not include that part. I do not have to do "that". However, unless changed, I believe anything defined previously has to carry over. A bad child is still a bad child. But how you deal with him is changed. That is my belief. If you do not share it then you do not share it. But don't think flaming me here is going to make me jump on your bandwagon.Dino, where in your new covenant does it say that homosexuality is a sin? Please enlighten me, I cannot find it. ✂
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Dino Marchetti wrote:
They seem to be doing a wonderful job. A much better job then I can myself. My emotions get too heated. I just find myself wanting to call people idiots and that's counter productive.🔰ਸᏧᏧ ℜⱥ༏Ҡℴ ц🔰 wrote:
Please tell me...what is the right way to argue this?See?! This shit brings out the worst in me And I can't bring myself to stay away from it. I wanna thank everyone who does support us, in any way shape or form. I appreciate those who know the right way to argue this. Some of aren't religious and can smell the idiocracy and hypocrisy a mile away. It's common sense. thanks.
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Tonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
Oh, good point sir.Dino Marchetti wrote:
See, I don't think god is real. I don't believe in sin. I only believe in right and wrong. So to me, and people like me, homosexuality is not a sin, and being an asshole to gays is wrong. According to my religious beliefs, people like you are the abomination. and it's a bit unfair that my religious beliefs aren't enforced by law while the beliefs of Christians are.Hebrew Hitman wrote:
I never said it wasn't in the bible. I simply said it was part of a covenant to which I am not attached. And I never said God hates gays. He loves them. But He does not like the sinful acts they perform. He doesn't like mine either. But, I'm not justifying mine nor asking for support in my commission of them.✂
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🔰ਸᏧᏧ ℜⱥ༏Ҡℴ ц🔰 wrote:
I can't imagine how unsettling it must be, having these obsessed stalker perverts constantly trying to look in your bedroom window. Miserable people they are. Just know that more and more people every day have your back. I know it doesn't seem like it, but things are getting better. They used to have the law on their side but now all they have is their holy books. That's progress. They're just screaming loudly now because they know their institutionalized hatred is coming to an end. Just keep being true to yourself and live well. That's the greatest revenge.See?! This shit brings out the worst in me And I can't bring myself to stay away from it. I wanna thank everyone who does support us, in any way shape or form. I appreciate those who know the right way to argue this. Some of aren't religious and can smell the idiocracy and hypocrisy a mile away. It's common sense. thanks.
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Tony, I sense some discrepancies in your opinion.
1. Is sin not that which is wrong?
2. God isn't real yet you have religious beliefs? Doesn't one require the other?
3. Trust me, the beliefs of Christians are not enforced by law. I'll simply cite current abortion laws along with schools giving condoms to kids as proof of that.
4. The act of homosexuality was defined as the abomination, not the person himself. Calling me an abomination simply shows your lack of ability to fully grasp the difference. God loves everyone. Even people who hate Him or choose not to believe He exists. -
Dino Marchetti wrote:
1. Sin is a religious concept, and not all of them are wrong.✂
2. Not believing in god is a belief on the subject of religion, ie. a religious belief.
3. Then why is gay marriage such a big deal to you people? Why is it still illegal if cristianity isn't favored over other beliefs?
4. I know the difference, and I thing it's wrong to condemn someone for acting out of love for another person. Simple as that. -
+1 for being atheist. I don't have some book telling me to discriminate. I don't live in fear, that if I fuck up I'm going to some fiery underworld.
I couldn't care less about your race, gender, orientation, etc. we are all humans, and should only be seen as just that. If someone or something told me to be unaccepting of someone or a group of people, I would say, fuck that!, oh wait.... I did.✌😒✌
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YOU wrote:
Also on this note, religious or not, gay or not, none of that matters to me, the above isn't meant as an attack on anyone, I judge people on how they treat me, and how I see them treat others.+1 for being atheist. I don't have some book telling me to discriminate. I don't live in fear, that if I fuck up I'm going to some fiery underworld.
I couldn't care less about your race, gender, orientation, etc. we are all humans, and should only be seen as just that. If someone or something told me to be unaccepting of someone or a group of people, I would say, fuck that!, oh wait.... I did.✌😒✌
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Kevster 🇺🇸💀🔫 wrote:
Talk about pick and choose. I've said three times on this thread alone God loves everyone. So, I am not even going to read the rest of what you wrote.Dino Marchetti wrote:
So you are only assuming god still hates gays. Your posts only shows how you pick and choose. The new covenant says nothing about stoning a child or gays...yet you pick the old covenant for the gay part, and create a new one for the child part.★fnord★ wrote:
Dino, where in your new covenant does it say that homosexuality is a sin? Please enlighten me, I cannot find it. ✂
Then you get off tryin to tell others they are believing in god wrongly? Your entire faith is based off assumptions and geuss's. Yet you are right? Lol -
Dino, I hope you are equally disturbed by all these other biblical abominations and proudly point them out whenever you see them being committed. Otherwise you'd be a hypocrite:
Unclean things, Customs of pagans
Idols, Sins of men, Cheating, Lost souls, A froward man (perverse; one who turns aside, A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A wicked scheming heart, Feet that are quick to sin
A false witness that speaks lies, A sower of discord, Wickedness, A false balance or scale, Sacrifices of the wicked, The way of the wicked, The thoughts of the wicked, The proud of heart, Justifying the wicked, Condemning the just,
Divers, dishonest weights
Divers, dishonest measures,
Refusing to hear the law, Prayers of the rebel, Eating flesh of peace offerings on the 3rd day, Some same sex acts, Taking ornaments from idols when being destroyed... -
...Any Idolatrous practices, Offering an imperfect animal to God as a sacrifice, Any traffic with demons, Wearing clothes of the opposite sex, Bringing the hire of a harlot or sodomite into God's house, Re-marriage of former companions, Cheating others, Making images/idols, Idols of Ammon
Idols of Moab, Idols of Zidon
Incense offered by hypocrites, Eating unclean things, Offering human sacrifices, Robbery, Murder, Adultery, Oppression of others, particularly the poor or vulnerable, Violence, Breaking vows, Lending with interest to a brother, Lying with a menstruous woman, Hardness of heart, Injustice, Worship of anti-Christ, Incest, Things highly esteemed by manI'm pretty sure you've committing a few of them on this thread. Repent, sinner!
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Wow. Those are all defined as abominations? That's a big list. I do not condone anything on that list. And, if I have committed any of those acts, I'm not here demanding any of you accept it or support me in continuing to do it.
You guys are free to do whatever you like. Just don't expect me to accept it or support it. If gays gain the legal right to marry then so be it. The rule of law will prevail. But history indicates the path to be fraught with peril.
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You don't condone anything on that list? 'Wearing clothes of the opposite sex', does it bother you to see women wearing pants? 'Lying with a menstrous woman', enjoy sleeping on the couch one week of each month? 'A proud look', no more TV, movies or organized sports for you. 'Refusing to hear the law' and 'Oppression of others', no more ignoring the constitution and calling for laws that oppress homosexuals? 'Eating of unclean things', pretty sure chick-fila falls under the biblical definition of unclean. Save your religious platitudes for the congregation.
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Dino Marchetti wrote:
So, which is it? Do you hold to the old convenant or not? You keep flip flopping here.★fnord★ wrote:
Finally. A good honest question. I do not laid out, homosexual acts were defined as an abomination. Unless they've been redefined, we must conclude they are still such. The example of stoning the child was a part of the laundry list of parts of that agreement. The new covenant does not include that part. I do not have to do "that". However, unless changed, I believe anything defined previously has to carry over. A bad child is still a bad child. But how you deal with him is changed. That is my belief. If you do not share it then you do not share it. But don't think flaming me here is going to make me jump on your bandwagon.Dino, where in your new covenant does it say that homosexuality is a sin? Please enlighten me, I cannot find it. ✂
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Wait wearing the clothes of the opposite gender is a sin? Don't Christians wear something extremely close to a dress when being baptized?
I'm no expert, I can't claim to be. When I first started looking into religions it didn't take long before I said no thanks. But anyway have fun crossdressing! Don't worry, those of us accepting will still love you. 👗✌😄 -
Also you'd better not be messing with those eggs and bunnies on Easter. Or the lighted tree on Christmas. Those are pagan customs.
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Dino Marchetti wrote:
Wtf is this? You still don't believe in any form of birth control? You'd rather your kids have sex unprotected? Because I assure you, 90% of them are having sex wether you acknowledge by implementing safe sex or not.1. Is sin not that which is wrong?
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4. The act of homosexuality was defined as the abomination, not the person himself. Calling me an abomination simply shows your lack of ability to fully grasp the difference. God loves everyone. Even people who hate Him or choose not to believe He exists.And since we all know abomination was not claimed in the new testament, you are admitting that you do indeed hand pick what you want to hold true in the old testament?
Talk about discrepancies and contradictions in an opinion. Remove the plank from your own eye before you point out the speck in your neighbors eye.
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★Λddi★ wrote:
👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏Dino Marchetti wrote:
Wtf is this? You still don't believe in any form of birth control? You'd rather your kids have sex unprotected? Because I assure you, 90% of them are having sex wether you acknowledge by implementing safe sex or not.1. Is sin not that which is wrong?
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4. The act of homosexuality was defined as the abomination, not the person himself. Calling me an abomination simply shows your lack of ability to fully grasp the difference. God loves everyone. Even people who hate Him or choose not to believe He exists.And since we all know abomination was not claimed in the new testament, you are admitting that you do indeed hand pick what you want to hold true in the old testament?
Talk about discrepancies and contradictions in an opinion. Remove the plank from your own eye before you point out the speck in your neighbors eye.
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