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SkyTheLimit wrote:
We trained bin laden. the CIA trained him to go into Afghanistan. The government never released pictures of his body and they gave him a funeral at sea and dumped the body in the ocean.We get fined for auto ins.
We cant buy a home without ins.✂
Now regulations on ins companies in price mightfix themselves or start tto since the 80%has to go to patient care.
This is a big releef.
And the only political thing i will say is everybody saying we atr trillions in debt and how we will leave this to our kids to pay due to obama iis this............a decade no tactical target in iraq. A war that has ended the biggest thret Bin Laden in Afghanistan. What is the cost?Jaimie out
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YOU wrote:
Yes I think insurance is dumbSkyTheLimit wrote:
We trained bin laden. the CIA trained him to go into Afghanistan. The government never released pictures of his body and they gave him a funeral at sea and dumped the body in the ocean.We get fined for auto ins.
We cant buy a home without ins.✂
Now regulations on ins companies in price mightfix themselves or start tto since the 80%has to go to patient care.
This is a big releef.
And the only political thing i will say is everybody saying we atr trillions in debt and how we will leave this to our kids to pay due to obama iis this............a decade no tactical target in iraq. A war that has ended the biggest thret Bin Laden in Afghanistan. What is the cost?Jaimie out
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People in the government are telling us what they want us to believe and try and change our view.
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Paul kelly wrote:
True that ✌People in the government are telling us what they want us to believe and try and change our view.
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What they believe is in making money$$$$
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No..we arnt in debt because of Obama..he isn't adding a lot he is trying to deal with the shit bush left
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And honestly bush didn't do what we wanted him to do..kill the people who killed our people.i think Obama and bush failed.
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Obama didn't lower oil..what prolly happened is they are getting investigated and wanted to be slick and act like nothing happened and they wanted to lower it
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But honestly..here's what's happening..nobody cares about other people,Everyone wants to be the most powerful,most influential and most respected person on earth.None of the government care about you..just the oil wells and the only reason they want you is for taxes..like that one guy said..the government breaks your leg and gives you crutches and says you need the government to walk
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But I think this thread is kinda meant to start problems so I'm out
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✭J⌖и Λl͟l͟e͞и✭ wrote:
How old are you cause that statement is not a smart one. We don't want no government we want a better governmentPaul kelly wrote:
Alright, say we remove all government. What happens when Russia (hypothetically) wants to invade us? What army, navy or air force will be there to protect us?But honestly..here's what's happening..nobody cares about other people,Everyone wants to be the most powerful,most influential and most respected person on earth.None of the government care about you..just the oil wells and the only reason they want you is for taxes..like that one guy said..the government breaks your leg and gives you crutches and says you need the government to walk
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☭🔥ţℌع🎂 ცA͜қḝཞ🔥☭ wrote:
Sorry, quoted the wrong person. It was supposed to be one of those no-government types back there. Ps, "We don't want no government" isn't that smart of a statement.✭J⌖и Λl͟l͟e͞и✭ wrote:
How old are you cause that statement is not a smart one. We don't want no government we want a better governmentPaul kelly wrote:
Alright, say we remove all government. What happens when Russia (hypothetically) wants to invade us? What army, navy or air force will be there to protect us?snip
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sebastian5367 wrote:
It's raising the price for insurance by 40% and still not fixing the problem
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SkyTheLimit wrote:
Well saidWe get fined for auto ins.
We cant buy a home without ins.It is not perfect but this has taken away lifetime caps. Doesnt take a cancer patient long to reach that $1mil. Pre-existing conditions will not br a refusal of care. Cancer patients, diabetics, high blood pressure with hugh cholesrerol, this affects you too!
Now regulations on ins companies in price mightfix themselves or start tto since the 80%has to go to patient care.
This is a big releef.
And the only political thing i will say is everybody saying we atr trillions in debt and how we will leave this to our kids to pay due to obama iis this............a decade no tactical target in iraq. A war that has ended the biggest thret Bin Laden in Afghanistan. What is the cost?Jaimie out
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Its all one more step to socialism
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⚡ᏰᎥᏩ🔱ᏰᎧᎦᎦ⚡ wrote:
And could someone PLEASE explain to me what's wrong with socialism? I've never really seen a legitimate concern with socialism. It's an economic system, not a form of gov't.Its all one more step to socialism
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It hasnt worked anywhere else in the world why would work here?
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⚡ᏰᎥᏩ🔱ᏰᎧᎦᎦ⚡ wrote:
Uh it has though. It's not perfect, but neither is capitalism.It hasnt worked anywhere else in the world why would work here?
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Too many people confuse socialism with communism. Not the same things. There are countries with working models involving some mix of socialism (Norway). The problem is it doesn't fit well with many Americans "me first, screw everyone else" attitudes. Until they need it, and then it's "why isn't Uncle Sam helping me, me ME?" Pathetic
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Paul kelly wrote:
C'mon, politics is just one huge debate, if you cant handle the heat, get outta the kitchenBut I think this thread is kinda meant to start problems so I'm out
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spooons wrote:
Yeah, actually put better than I would've. Capitalism is sorta conditioned into us as kids, and we can never shake it off. I have to really fight myself to due something that doesn't benefit me. Even heaven isn't a great enough benefit for me, sometimes.Too many people confuse socialism with communism. Not the same things. There are countries with working models involving some mix of socialism (Norway). The problem is it doesn't fit well with many Americans "me first, screw everyone else" attitudes. Until they need it, and then it's "why isn't Uncle Sam helping me, me ME?" Pathetic
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And please, PLEASE, don't make this religious, it will only go downhill from there.
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Anyone who has studied healthcare systems understands that universal coverage is needed. Currently we are #1 in healthcare spendin and like #32 in outcomes. The old system is unsustainable. Obamas hc system is better than what we have. It clashes with ideals but at some point we need to start living in the real world
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⚡ᏰᎥᏩ🔱ᏰᎧᎦᎦ⚡ wrote:
Please read up On actual healthcare systems and tell me one with a spot of socialism doesnt work....It hasnt worked anywhere else in the world why would work here?
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Yep, sustainability is like teenage sex. Everyone says their doing it, but most aren't, and those that are, are doing it very, very wrong.
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Z👿 wrote:
You are really going to cite something that has some south American countries ranked higher then the US?Anyone who has studied healthcare systems understands that universal coverage is needed. Currently we are #1 in healthcare spendin and like #32 in outcomes. The old system is unsustainable. Obamas hc system is better than what we have. It clashes with ideals but at some point we need to start living in the real world
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Nice Natalie wrote:
You really gonna disqualify something because it doesn't agree with your preconceptions?Z👿 wrote:
You are really going to cite something that has some south American countries ranked higher then the US?Anyone who has studied healthcare systems understands that universal coverage is needed. Currently we are #1 in healthcare spendin and like #32 in outcomes. The old system is unsustainable. Obamas hc system is better than what we have. It clashes with ideals but at some point we need to start living in the real world
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The McCurdle wrote:
even though I have read the standards used by the WHO and I disagree with them on many grounds, just from a logical standpoint, where would you rather be if you had a heart attack? Colombia or the US?Nice Natalie wrote:
You really gonna disqualify something because it doesn't agree with your preconceptions?Z👿 wrote:
You are really going to cite something that has some south American countries ranked higher then the US?Anyone who has studied healthcare systems understands that universal coverage is needed. Currently we are #1 in healthcare spendin and like #32 in outcomes. The old system is unsustainable. Obamas hc system is better than what we have. It clashes with ideals but at some point we need to start living in the real world
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Nice Natalie wrote:
Am I insured?The McCurdle wrote:
even though I have read the standards used by the WHO and I disagree with them on many grounds, just from a logical standpoint, where would you rather be if you had a heart attack? Colombia or the US?Nice Natalie wrote:
You really gonna disqualify something because it doesn't agree with your preconceptions?Z👿 wrote:
You are really going to cite something that has some south American countries ranked higher then the US?Anyone who has studied healthcare systs understands that universal coverage is needed. Currently we are #1 in healthcare spendin and like #32 in outcomes. The old system is unsustainable. Obamas hc system is better than what we have. It clashes with ideals but at some point we need to start living in the real world
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If you are dead, who cares if you were insured?
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