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Superyan wrote:
So your saying that him dying on the cross for you is showing no love towards you at all?@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
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But I also don't expect a life threatening disease. The emotional torment after my near encounter with death. I don't expect to be rejected from my friends because of this experience. They don't understand what I've been through and couldn't cope with it, so they simply push me away.
I have missed out on so much in life because of this. I won't be able to do a lot of things.
I might be lucky to even get some qualifications for the job I want. That'll require a lot of work.My life went down the drain from one event. Then you can tell me, that some all powerful being loves me. He hasn't shown any love. And he never will.
It comes down to one of the four options. He's hateful. He's selfish. He's sick or she simply doesn't exist.
I'd prefer to think someone so demented didn't exist. -
ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
Just because you asked me to marry you doesn't mean I'm going to let you beat me.Superyan wrote:
So your saying that him dying on the cross for you is showing no love towards you at all?@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
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But I also don't expect a life threatening disease. The emotional
I have missed out on so much in life because of this. I won't be able to do a lot of things.
I might be lucky to even get some qualifications for the job I want. That'll require a lot of work.My life went down the drain from one event. Then you can tell me, that some all powerful being loves me. He hasn't shown any love. And he never will.
It comes down to one of the four options. He's hateful. He's selfish. He's sick or she simply doesn't exist.
I'd prefer to think someone so demented didn't exist.
One act of love doesn't prove he loves us all. -
Superyan wrote:
👆that's what happens when you anthropomorphize God.@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
At one point I didn't have the gift of breathing. And the gift of life was hanging by a thread. (cut.) -
Belial I guess my main question to you is what CURRENT laws are so horrific by Christians (enacted ONLY BY Christians no Jews, Muslims, deists, atheists politically) that has just had the worst impact on current western society.
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Superyan wrote:
You see though that's not just some act of love, that's the ultimate act of love, I know you don't agree with what the bible says but it says in John 15:13 "there is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friend".ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
Just because you asked me to marry you doesn't mean I'm going to let you beat me.Superyan wrote:
So your saying that him dying on the cross for you is showing no love towards you at all?@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
✂My life went down the drain from one event. Then you can tell me, that some all powerful being loves me. He hasn't shown any love. And he never will.
It comes down to one of the four options. He's hateful. He's selfish. He's sick or she simply doesn't exist.
I'd prefer to think someone so demented didn't exist.
One act of love doesn't prove he loves us all. -
ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
And what's to say he did it for everyone but me?Superyan wrote:
You see though that's not just some act of love, that's the ultimate act of love, I know you don't agree with what the bible says but it says in John 15:13 "there is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friend".ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
Just because you asked me to marry you doesn't mean I'm going to let you beat me.Superyan wrote:
So your saying that him dying on the cross for you is showing no love towards you at all?@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
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One act of love doesn't prove he loves us all.
What's to say he loves everyone but me?
What's to say he has withdrew that promise now. Like he withdrew past policies. -
Superyan wrote:
"For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only Son that whosoever believes in Him will not parish, but have eternal life." John 3:16ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
Just because you asked me to marry you doesn't mean I'm going to let you beat me.Superyan wrote:
So your saying that him dying on the cross for you is showing no love towards you at all?@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
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I might be lucky to even get some qualifications for the job I want. That'll require a lot of work.It comes down to one of the four options. He's hateful. He's selfish. He's sick or she simply doesn't exist.
I'd prefer to think someone so demented didn't exist.
One act of love doesn't prove he loves us all.
Jesus layed his life down for everyone that wants to accept Him. -
I say he was executed as a criminal, and even then, whined and complained about it, cursing his own father.
And that's only if you truely believe the story.
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Belial for a laveyan satanist you seem to throw a lot of energy toward Christianity. That's exactly what laveyan satanist accuse literal satanists of doing (being inverse Christians). If you truly were a follower of laveyan satanism why would you put so much energy and disdain toward Christianity if it doesn't mean anything to you? (please correct me if I'm wrong on your perceptions because i know I may well be reading you wrong) but it just seems like a awful lot of wasted energy.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Didn't he have second thoughts and beg god to do it differently?I say he was executed as a criminal, and even then, whined and complained about it, cursing his own father.
And that's only if you truely believe the story.
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Superyan wrote:
John 3:16 says "for God so loves the world. Your a part of this world right? Then that means he loves you. And Hebrews 13:8 says "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
And what's to say he did it for everyone but me?Superyan wrote:
You see though that's not just some act of love, that's the ultimate act of love, I know you don't agree with what the bible says but it says in John 15:13 "there is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friend".ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ wrote:
✂Superyan wrote:
✂@ѢʉʂĦⅈÐʘ/A͜ⅆㅌℤⅈʘ
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What's to say he loves everyone but me?
What's to say he has withdrew that promise now. Like he withdrew past policies. -
I take no quotes from re-translated text fragments, many contradicting themselves, some missing beginnings and endings, and many more omitted, written by anonymous authors for unknown reasons as any authority over my life.
Just the idea of it is insane to me.
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Superyan wrote:
He died as a criminal not for His crimes, but for all of humanities crimes. If he really wanted out, he could have sent legions of angels to take Hi to heaven. He was 100% man; He didn't have his muscles ripped from his neck and thorns pushed through his temple for Himself. But through nails being driven through His wrists and supporting his own weight from a single nail driven into his ankles, He still prayed for us. That is true Love.Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Didn't he have second thoughts and beg god to do it differently?I say he was executed as a criminal, and even then, whined and complained about it, cursing his own father.
And that's only if you truely believe the story.
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Bush can you have these verses PMed to him. I dont think Belial wanted this to be a preachy post. Take that in private.
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I personally don't want to hear it. If you and superyan want to talk about that in private thats between you too.
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You guys do know that God hates religion don't you? Why? Because man invented religion to replace God.
"sure, God's commandments are a fine way to live your life but but it is really incomplete until you add OUR rules to it"
You see where that goes?
"God forgot a few things but we have corrected Him. Oh and some of His rules are inconvenient with what we want to do so we have replaced them. When you follow OUR rules, you are better than that guy, and that guy, etc..."
All religions including the Christian denominations are in some way or another trying to elevate themselves to God's level by tacking on their rules.
God's word (the bible) is actually really easy to understand and apply to your life:
When you read a fact, believe it.
When you read a promise, claim it.
When you read a command, do it.
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Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
I don't want to hear it away.I personally don't want to hear it. If you and superyan want to talk about that in private thats between you too.
It only upsets me. -
I'm Sick of this preaching. Not a discussion just blah blah blah pseudo intellectual bible verse copy paste blah blah blah.
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Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
We are having a discussion; Brown Note said something, I responded with a counter-argument that pertained 100% to it.I'm Sick of this preaching. Not a discussion just blah blah blah pseudo intellectual bible verse copy paste blah blah blah.
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"Died for your sins".... How does that even make sense?
I hit myself in the head with a hammer for your desk.
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Carpenter wrote:
That's not a counter argument. You're being illogical. You are quoting a book he probably doesn't even believe in (sorry books plural) so its not a logical argument. You are making assumptions that they believe in the bible. You are preaching not having a discussion.Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
We are having a discussion; Brown Note said something, I responded with a counter-argument that pertained 100% to it.I'm Sick of this preaching. Not a discussion just blah blah blah pseudo intellectual bible verse copy paste blah blah blah.
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Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
"I know it's true, it says so in this book that is full of unproven stories, unbelievable 'miracles', and has been translated and edited a bunch of times!"Carpenter wrote:
That's not a counter argument. You're being illogical. You are quoting a book he probably doesn't even believe in (sorry books plural) so its not a logical argument. You are making assumptions that they believe in the bible. You are preaching not having a discussion.Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
We are having a discussion; Brown Note said something, I responded with a counter-argument that pertained 100% to it.I'm Sick of this preaching. Not a discussion just blah blah blah pseudo intellectual bible verse copy paste blah blah blah.
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Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
Brown Note said "I say...". That implies opinion, yes. I responded with my opinion from a book that, in my opinion, is completely true. It's opinion against opinion.Carpenter wrote:
That's not a counter argument. You're being illogical. You are quoting a book he probably doesn't even believe in (sorry books plural) so its not a logical argument. You are making assumptions that they believe in the bible. You are preaching not having a discussion.Sammy Guns🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
We are having a discussion; Brown Note said something, I responded with a counter-argument that pertained 100% to it.I'm Sick of this preaching. Not a discussion just blah blah blah pseudo intellectual bible verse copy paste blah blah blah.
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
I once had a $30 debt to my dad that he waived after I mowed the lawn. How does that even make sense?"Died for your sins".... How does that even make sense?
I hit myself in the head with a hammer for your desk.
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Carpenter wrote:
You can hire someone to do it for 40 bucks.🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
I once had a $30 debt to my dad that he waived after I mowed the lawn. How does that even make sense?"Died for your sins".... How does that even make sense?
I hit myself in the head with a hammer for your desk.
You got ripped off :/ -
Carpenter wrote:
Dying isn't a service to me. It's completely different because mowing the lawn is a service to repay a debt. Jesus had no debt to me and if he did, dyin wouldn't pay it. I'd be like, "Fuck! NOW how's he gonna pay me back?"🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
I once had a $30 debt to my dad that he waived after I mowed the lawn. How does that even make sense?"Died for your sins".... How does that even make sense?
I hit myself in the head with a hammer for your desk.
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Superyan wrote:
Jesus could've let everyone else pay for their sins. He got ripped off :/Carpenter wrote:
You can hire someone to do it for 40 bucks.🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
I once had a $30 debt to my dad that he waived after I mowed the lawn. How does that even make sense?"Died for your sins".... How does that even make sense?
I hit myself in the head with a hammer for your desk.
You got ripped off :/ -
If you really wanted to get anywhere you would study your own faith first carpenter before preaching and then claiming it's a logical argument. If you want to preach do it to them in private if they don't want to hear do what YOUR bible says to "walk away dust your feet off" (may not be direct quote) not continuously harping on someone who doesn't want to hear what you have to say by their own admission. Study Christian apologetics and learn your own faith and the reasoning behind in and *maybe* you can have an intelligent conversation on why you feel on (fill in topic) not just based on 66 books by over 27 different authors written in hebrew, aramaic, and Greek, (which im positive you don't know) and therefore don't realize the original meaning behind most scripture.
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Also in Greek there are numerous words for love unlike the English dictionary, is it agape, phileo, Eros (erotic love yum), so I just think its not logical to preach bible verses and then say that's true because the bible says so. First you need to establish if they even view the bible as a credible divine book(s) as you do.
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Alright Z, I'm going to explain this with my personal opinion, which I believe is true. Everyone sins. These sins are against God. Also, everyone who sins is doomed to eternal death in hell (so they are alive in hell, if you follow). in order for anyone to get into heaven, they must be 100% free of sin. As I previously stated though, everyone is guilty of sinning, so no one is allowed into heaven. But, Jesus, who was 100% sin free, took the place of all the sins humanity will ever do. This allows people to be able to become sin free, because their sin is already paid for. If you follow. I'm not trying to preach, only trying to explain.
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