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And socialism isnt a proper answer. You pay or everybody who needs a service. Also, we never needed socialist health care to survive
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MickTheMole wrote:
Actually in the past we just let people die without medical attention. That's what is trying to changeAnd socialism isnt a proper answer. You pay or everybody who needs a service. Also, we never needed socialist health care to survive
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See you guys have made socialism a bad word. In truth we wouldn't have a successful government without forms of socialism. Wouldn't even have an organized military.
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Yeah but socialism isnt the answer. There's only so much you have before government takes it away from you.
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Dino Marchetti wrote:
You're not serious are you? Taxes are lowest they've been since before WWII. Corporate taxes were lowered significantly right before the great depression. That was rectified quickly.Edg•e wrote:
Why should they? How much money do you guys want to give to the government?? The answer to all your questions is smaller government. Less taxes. Ask yourself how America survived before all these taxes were created.Dino Marchetti wrote:
.Edg•e wrote:
Capital gains are a different tax rate.I never really understood that.
Even with the tax % we have, imagine the reality of it if there weren't so freaking many personal and corporate loopholes. Like Exon for example that doesn't pay taxes at all -a Multibillion dollar company. -
DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Socialism to the extent of taking liberty away isn't necessary thoughSee you guys have made socialism a bad word. In truth we wouldn't have a successful government without forms of socialism. Wouldn't even have an organized military.
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One has to wonder how many people in this country hate Obama because they are told to. It's pathetic really. Most people have no idea why they say considering the typical propoganda is far from the truth.
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You shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Because it isn't my dutyYou shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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Λdོdོi wrote:
I personally don't like him. But not for the reason that everyone else seems to hate him. I see a lot of double talk. I saw it before he was elected and I still see it. He will say one thing to one group o people than the next week pull opositeOne has to wonder how many people in this country hate Obama because they are told to. It's pathetic really. Most people have no idea why they say considering the typical propoganda is far from the truth.
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MickTheMole wrote:
it's everyone's duty to save the lives of their countrymenDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Because it isn't my dutyYou shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
The abolition of liberty is seldom the answer. I think the problem is you believe this problem can and must be solved with federal means.The problem mick is private charity isn't working at all. So we need other solutions
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Not through a socialist act. We shouldn't be forced to pay for others. If you make a charity, people will be more than happy to pay.MickTheMole wrote:
it's everyone's duty to save the lives of their countrymenDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Because it isn't my dutyYou shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
We tried this charity thing. They all collapsed in the great depression. We write history books for a reason. To learn from them, rather than to keep repeating the mistakes of our ancestors.Dino Marchetti wrote:
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Dino Marchetti wrote:
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
It's infringement of liberty. You want to help sick people?Dino Marchetti wrote:
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
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It's bad enough that the free market has increased so many illnesses like cancer. But to say we shouldn't take care of sick people? heartless. Let's go back to tent cities/ real slums where people are just left to die. -
MickTheMole wrote:
Charities don't work. They never do. They don't accomplish nutting. History has taught thisDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Not through a socialist act. We shouldn't be forced to pay for others. If you make a charity, people will be more than happy to pay.MickTheMole wrote:
it's everyone's duty to save the lives of their countrymenDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Because it isn't my dutyYou shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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Addi we're just saying that it shouldn't be socialized. There are too many ways to take advantage of it.
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Λdོdོi wrote:
We are already there🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Let's go back to tent cities/ real slums where people are just left to die.Dino Marchetti wrote:
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Dino Marchetti wrote:
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
It's infringement of liberty. You want to help sick people?Dino Marchetti wrote:
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
snippedsnipped
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You still don't stomp over personal liberties.
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Btw, anyone that thinks Obama is a socialist, is well, an idiot. He's a centrist. Just because the republican party has been spewing that for four years, doesn't make it so. It's fear mongering. Wake up.
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MickTheMole wrote:
Since when was not paying taxes a personal liberty?You still don't stomp over personal liberties.
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Λdོdོi wrote:
I agree. He isn't a socialist. No more than many republicans have been and less than someBtw, anyone that thinks Obama is a socialist, is well, an idiot. He's a centrist. Just because the republican party has been spewing that for four years, doesn't make it so. It's fear mongering. Wake up.
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Λdོdོi wrote:
He has implemented socialist ideasBtw, anyone that thinks Obama is a socialist, is well, an idiot. He's a centrist. Just because the republican party has been spewing that for four years, doesn't make it so. It's fear mongering. Wake up.
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Λdོdོi wrote:
You're legitimizing taxation by accepting unbridled spending.Dino Marchetti wrote:
You're not serious are you? Taxes are lowest they've been since before WWII. Corporate taxes were lowered significantly right before the great depression. That was rectified quickly.Edg•e wrote:
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.Edg•e wrote:
Capital gains are a different tax rate.I never really understood that.
Even with the tax % we have, imagine the reality of it if there weren't so freaking many personal and corporate loopholes. Like Exon for example that doesn't pay taxes at all -a Multibillion dollar company. -
DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Since when was making me pay for your needs the government's job?MickTheMole wrote:
Since when was not paying taxes a personal liberty?You still don't stomp over personal liberties.
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MickTheMole wrote:
So once again we come to needy people should just dieDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Since when was making me pay for your needs the government's job?MickTheMole wrote:
Since when was not paying taxes a personal liberty?You still don't stomp over personal liberties.
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
And it's not selfish you demand the forfeiture of the fruits of my labor?You shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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Tjeres no other alternative. Private charity doesn't work. Either we pull govenment resources or a lot of people die. But that doesn't seem to matter to you two because faux news tells you otherwise.
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MickTheMole wrote:
You mean the Obamacare they passed that was decidedly republican written just to get it through. Or the general motors that was supposedly a take over but in reality a loan?Λdོdོi wrote:
He has implemented socialist ideasBtw, anyone that thinks Obama is a socialist, is well, an idiot. He's a centrist. Just because the republican party has been spewing that for four years, doesn't make it so. It's fear mongering. Wake up.
Again, there's a difference in having traces of socialism with our government and being a socialist leader.
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Ummm. No. It's not. It is everyone's duty to be responsible for themselves.MickTheMole wrote:
it's everyone's duty to save the lives of their countrymenDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Because it isn't my dutyYou shun something that'll save lives only because you're told it's socialism and it'll cost you a little extra. That's selfishness.
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