Do you know Che Guevara?
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VitoRitz wrote:
Where are you getting this information? The CIA wanted him alive for "questioning" in Uraguay. He was killed by a Bolivian soldier in captivity before the CIA had control of him.Yup dam CIA killed him as they have many other great leaders
Just admit you have no clue what you are talking about.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
A member of the CIA didn't literally kill him but they funded the Bolivian mission to capture him. Once he was captured he was executed, if the CIA wanted him alive, he would have lived.VitoRitz wrote:
Where are you getting this information? The CIA wanted him alive for "questioning" in Uraguay. He was killed by a Bolivian soldier in captivity before the CIA had control of him.Yup dam CIA killed him as they have many other great leaders
Just admit you have no clue what you are talking about.
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Add XXL wrote:
Yeah, the CIA is like superhero powerful. The world always does exactly what they want. It's like they hypnotize pissed off soldiers and make them shoot people.Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
A member of the CIA didn't literally kill him but they funded the Bolivian mission to capture him. Once he was captured he was executed, if the CIA wanted him alive, he would have lived.VitoRitz wrote:
Where are you getting this information? The CIA wanted him alive for "questioning" in Uraguay. He was killed by a Bolivian soldier in captivity before the CIA had control of him.Yup dam CIA killed him as they have many other great leaders
Just admit you have no clue what you are talking about.
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The CIA has killed everyone that has died since the Somerton Man.
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The soldier who shot che guavara was not pissed off. He was ordered to execute him the morning after he was captured. If you don't want an intellectual conversation just say so.
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The same harmonious CIA made recorded attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro. They are relatively lethal and believing otherwise is naive.
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Some would say he was a great man, some would say he's a commie piece of sh*t. But i do know this, most kids do only know him for his cool looking tshirts, and he died in a f'n hole. He was walked into the woods, and executed. Great man?
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Add XXL wrote:
So? Having Castro assassinated would've been awesomeThe same harmonious CIA made recorded attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro. They are relatively lethal and believing otherwise is naive.
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BorderFox~>java wrote:
BullshitYeah that sounds pretty well informed but imma reserve my opinion of him, coz im not american, no offense u guys have no toleration for anything outside the box ( on average)
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Rooster teeth FTW
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I like pancakes
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Saying that Che was a great man is like saying that Hitler and Stalin were great men. Che murdered and tortured thousands of innocent people in the march for more power. The idea that he was a man of the people is complete myth. He was a power hungry murderer who had no intent other than to gain fame and control at the expense of the people.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
WateverBorderFox~>java wrote:
BullshitYeah that sounds pretty well informed but imma reserve my opinion of him, coz im not american, no offense u guys have no toleration for anything outside the box ( on average)
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💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Gus FTWRooster teeth FTW
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Why is that? So the US could have kept their influence over the whole of South America and the West Indies? Corporate imperialism doesn't suit everybody. If you want a great example of what I am saying search up the term Aguas del Tunari and Cochabamba. That is one of thousands of examples where American capitalist imperialism has basically pulverised an entire Latino state.Add XXL wrote:
So? Having Castro assassinated would've been awesomeThe same harmonious CIA made recorded attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro. They are relatively lethal and believing otherwise is naive.
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Thank you thank you thank you belial, brown note, and vinnie. Che the murdering commie douchebag. He's become so romanticized it drives me crazy. I see kids walking around with him on t shirts and stickers on their back windows of their cars thinking they're trendy. Bugs the crap outta me. Che guevara was an asshole.
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Add XXL wrote:
I'm not saying communism is bad. If it was done right it's possible it could work. But totalitarianism is never good. Castro killed thousands upon thousands like any dictator⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Why is that? So the US could have kept their influence over the whole of South America and the West Indies? Corporate imperialism doesn't suit everybody. If you want a great example of what I am saying search up the term Aguas del Tunari and Cochabamba. That is one of thousands of examples where American capitalist imperialism has basically pulverised an entire Latino state.Add XXL wrote:
So? Having Castro assassinated would've been awesomeThe same harmonious CIA made recorded attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro. They are relatively lethal and believing otherwise is naive.
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Let's face it. There has never been a good communist country. They all end up with poor economies and ruled by an ppressive government. Just look up a comparison between north and south Korea. South Korea is one of the richest countries in the world. North Korea is one of the poorest. Cuba isn't in much better shape either
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Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
Have you travelled through time from the 1950's?Thank you thank you thank you belial, brown note, and vinnie. Che the murdering commie douchebag. He's become so romanticized it drives me crazy. I see kids walking around with him on t shirts and stickers on their back windows of their cars thinking they're trendy. Bugs the crap outta me. Che guevara was an asshole.
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Malthus wrote:
Thanks to my ipad 3, i did!Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
Have you travelled through time from the 1950's?Thank you thank you thank you belial, brown note, and vinnie. Che the murdering commie douchebag. He's become so romanticized it drives me crazy. I see kids walking around with him on t shirts and stickers on their back windows of their cars thinking they're trendy. Bugs the crap outta me. Che guevara was an asshole.
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YÓU wrote:
1.21 gigawatts!!!Malthus wrote:
Thanks to my ipad 3, i did!Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
Have you travelled through time from the 1950's?Thank you thank you thank you belial, brown note, and vinnie. Che the murdering commie douchebag. He's become so romanticized it drives me crazy. I see kids walking around with him on t shirts and stickers on their back windows of their cars thinking they're trendy. Bugs the crap outta me. Che guevara was an asshole.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Add XXL wrote:
So? Having Castro assassinated would've been awesomeThe same harmonious CIA made recorded attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro. They are relatively lethal and believing otherwise is naive.
Belial, im with ya on the last comment. Communism will never work. NEVER. theres a little thing that gets in each and every one of our lifes, and its called the 7 deadly sins. Humans love and hate them all at once. Communism can work for drones, not thinking men. Ive seen it first hand in hippie communes. -
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
I don't think anyone knows the real GDP per capita of North Korea nor their perceptions of wealth and standard of living, so to say they are poor can only be an assumption most likely based on what media vehicles you consume. Cuba is poor but that is undoubtedly down to the embargo that has crippled any chance of growth. And by "good communist country" I assume you mean wealthy and powerful, China will be exactly that in the next 2 decades. Also a communist wouldn't judge national success on individual wealth, which we do. Essay over.Let's face it. There has never been a good communist country. They all end up with poor economies and ruled by an ppressive government. Just look up a comparison between north and south Korea. South Korea is one of the richest countries in the world. North Korea is one of the poorest. Cuba isn't in much better shape either
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One should also note, what humans judge as REAL value. The west is obsessed with financial value and we base success upon the increasing levels of that value. And you can see that from how we perceive other people. Judgements are made based on the material value of the car someone is driving and the suit they are wearing. Until you can find REAL value in something that is not material, I.e. The value of community and living a life of satisfaction without causing detriment to someone elses, then you cannot understand how a real socialist/ communist thinks. I urge people in this forum to educate themselves, and not just to increase your own value as a commodity.
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For christs sake castro and Che sent every homosexual they could find I to labor camps. Such heroes. Hitler would be proud. China has only started to be successful as it has become lax on the communist policies. We are pretty knowledgable about conditions in north Korea. They're in a Famin
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Add XXL wrote:
Yeah. You're right. Having freedom is bad. Being able to think for yourself is bad. That's why communism is awesome. Thinking and acting exactly like the government tells you is great :)One should also note, what humans judge as REAL value. The west is obsessed with financial value and we base success upon the increasing levels of that value. And you can see that from how we perceive other people. Judgements are made based on the material value of the car someone is driving and the suit they are wearing. Until you can find REAL value in something that is not material, I.e. The value of community and living a life of satisfaction without causing detriment to someone elses, then you cannot understand how a real socialist/ communist thinks. I urge people in this forum to educate themselves, and not just to increase your own value as a commodity.
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Add XXL wrote:
Communist countries have caused millions more deaths than all other dictators combined in all of history. So guess they don't case detriment to others huh?One should also note, what humans judge as REAL value. The west is obsessed with financial value and we base success upon the increasing levels of that value. And you can see that from how we perceive other people. Judgements are made based on the material value of the car someone is driving and the suit they are wearing. Until you can find REAL value in something that is not material, I.e. The value of community and living a life of satisfaction without causing detriment to someone elses, then you cannot understand how a real socialist/ communist thinks. I urge people in this forum to educate themselves, and not just to increase your own value as a commodity.
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I just read the John lee anderson book on Che. While I dont agree with all the killing he did. I think his ideas were excellent and that he was a true visionary. Just look at healthcare in Cuba. It's better than in the US and it's free.
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Bayern Munich wrote:
And just look at their poverty and total lack of freedom or the ability to think for themselves. It's so awesome. I need to move there do I can be a sheep too. BaaaaaaaaahhhhI just read the John lee anderson book on Che. While I dont agree with all the killing he did. I think his ideas were excellent and that he was a true visionary. Just look at healthcare in Cuba. It's better than in the US and it's free.
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Noth korea is broke as fuck, its a fact. Communism sucks, (look at whats going on here in the USA, its on its way!) once SOPA kicks in, this game will prob be no more as well. This arguement is pointless anyway.. Like i said, we're argueing over a guy who was shot in a hole in the ground. Vinny up the block died the same way and did alot for his neighborhood, but you dont see the likes ofmhim on a tshirt.
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