do u belive in heaven?👼
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YOU wrote:
I didn't say it had to be a physical description. More along the lines of, "Whom is he? What can he do? What does he do?" etc
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
if you want to see what he can do and does do look at the world and mankind.YOU wrote:
I didn't say it had to be a physical description. More along the lines of, "Whom is he? What can he do? What does he do?" etc
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bennington wrote:
So... world hunger, cancer, AIDS, war, genocide, environmental disasters, tyranny, corruption, greed, violence, ignorance, prejudice and much more... Sounds pretty cool to meScroobius Pip wrote:
if you want to see what he can do and does do look at the world and mankind.YOU wrote:
I didn't say it had to be a physical description. More along the lines of, "Whom is he? What can he do? What does he do?" etc
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
Am I a vet? Nope I'm a cat. One cannot argue that god is evil when we as a race can't even define morality.The Rhino wrote:
How are AIDS and cancer in any way beneficial to us? How does God "ultimately help us" through these?griogair 💀add infinity💀 wrote:
cats think vets are evil even though in reality the vet ultimately helps them. Poor argumentI agree. Your god is an evil being. He gave us AIDS, cancer, murder, greed, rapists, loss and death. How can you admire his deeds.
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The Rhino wrote:
Then you can't argue that god is good. And idk what you're trying to show by saying you're a catScroobius Pip wrote:
Am I a vet? Nope I'm a cat. One cannot argue that god is evil when we as a race can't even define morality.The Rhino wrote:
How are AIDS and cancer in any way beneficial to us? How does God "ultimately help us" through these?griogair 💀add infinity💀 wrote:
cats think vets are evil even though in reality the vet ultimately helps them. Poor argumentI agree. Your god is an evil being. He gave us AIDS, cancer, murder, greed, rapists, loss and death. How can you admire his deeds.
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Then you can't argue that god is good. And idk what you're trying to show by saying you're a cat
I could argue a point or two such as good cannot exist without evil. Or that god and the devil are simply metephores for good and evil, but the ideas are not necessarily what I belive.
So no logically I will not argue that god is good. I have other reasons for beliving he is. I know I try to support good and if god is good I also by defult support him. But o don't realy want to get into it too much as I've waisted alot of my life on the subject, and as appealing as it is. I think I'll call it a day before I get sucked in again.
Enjoy ✌
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God has death so we can be rewarded for our deeds on Earth, by sending us to hell purgatory or heaven. This is one way to reward us, and to answer your question of what our God is, I'll tell you. My God is love
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
don't mess with him thenbennington wrote:
So... world hunger, cancer, AIDS, war, genocide, environmental disasters, tyranny, corruption, greed, violence, ignorance, prejudice and much more... Sounds pretty cool to meScroobius Pip wrote:
if you want to see what he can do and does do look at the world and mankind.YOU wrote:
I didn't say it had to be a physical description. More along the lines of, "Whom is he? What can he do? What does he do?" etc
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bennington wrote:
Yeah he might come and get me just like he did with Hitler and Stalin. Oh wait he left them to their own devices now that I think of it. Probably so they could finish their murderous rampages...Scroobius Pip wrote:
don't mess with him thenbennington wrote:
So... world hunger, cancer, AIDS, war, genocide, environmental disasters, tyranny, corruption, greed, violence, ignorance, prejudice and much more... Sounds pretty cool to meScroobius Pip wrote:
if you want to see what he can do and does do look at the world and mankind.YOU wrote:
I didn't say it had to be a physical description. More along the lines of, "Whom is he? What can he do? What does he do?" etc
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griogair 💀add infinity💀 wrote:
no no no. Haven't you heard yet? gOD is only responsible for the good stuff, not the hurricanes and earthquakes and plagues. Just like how gOD picks a favorite football team to win the Superbowl each year; that's why they always thank hIM.I agree. Your god is an evil being. He gave us AIDS, cancer, murder, greed, rapists, loss and death. How can you admire his deeds.
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WSoxfan86 wrote:
My God is love
the Bible begs to differ. It contains scores of passages relating tales of gOD ordering the murder, rape, and cannibalism of men, women and children.
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Yes I do.. Was next to Sumone that was about to pass and they kept sayin they were next to a bright lit door how do they get in.. Kinda freaky but nice knowing where they were goin'
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@Scroobius Pip:
I'm not going to bother debating with you on this subject anymore. I think you are jealous that some people have something to belive in that you don't. And that this makes you very sad as you won't let people belive in something that makes them a better person, you have to keep trying to make them see your way in the universe which revolves around you. -
Lol why don't I just go kill myself now... I'm such an emo. I wish I'd never been born. I wish I could be as awesome as bennington. Then maybe God would love me.
Why on earth did I have to bring my opinions to a discussion forum? How could I have possibly thought it was a good idea to contribute to a debate and help people understand my viewpoint? Oh my God I'm such a dickhead. Maybe the situation wouldn't be as bad if I hadn't been so persuasive in my arguments- I've clearly caused great distress. I should have abandoned my self-centred secular views and accepted that God made humans as a special species to rule over all others, and cares very much about me.
But now bennington knows my secret: as an atheist I'm sad and inferior to the good Christian people. In fact atheists aren't really people at all to be honest. We're more like chimpanzees. We burn heretics at the stake and wage war against believers, because we're jealous of them being better than us. We kill kittens and nearly killed Christmas. -
I'm sorry for all rational thought I may have provoked. I'm gonna go die now. You can look down on me when you're in heaven
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Damn you kill kittens!
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Moridin wrote:
Please show me these sources. I will explain each one.WSoxfan86 wrote:
My God is love
the Bible begs to differ. It contains scores of passages relating tales of gOD ordering the murder, rape, and cannibalism of men, women and children.
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WSoxfan86 wrote:
Read the nice little story in Judges 19Moridin wrote:
Please show me these sources. I will explain each one.WSoxfan86 wrote:
My God is love
the Bible begs to differ. It contains scores of passages relating tales of gOD ordering the murder, rape, and cannibalism of men, women and children.
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The Rhino wrote: I accepti cannot know the truth and let my heart take me where my head cannot. We all do this but alot of us are in denial and denial leads to closed mindedness.
Words of great wisdom, and my thoughts exactly.
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
KeMiKaL wrote:
If you're God sends me to Hell simply for not believing in him, then he's a petty and childish little douchebagI do... For those who don't, I hope you're right, for your sake.
Nobody sends you anywhere. The decisions are yours to make. It's very clearly spelled out what is behind each door. You get to choose the door.
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
I did. I saw no reference in there to God supporting it.WSoxfan86 wrote:
Read the nice little story in Judges 19Moridin wrote:
Please show me these sources. I will explain each one.WSoxfan86 wrote:
My God is love
the Bible begs to differ. It contains scores of passages relating tales of gOD ordering the murder, rape, and cannibalism of men, women and children.
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griogair 💀add infinity💀 wrote:
Think like a simple mind.
The ability to accept and believe in the things that can not be proven requires far more than a "simple mind".
A simple mind is the end result of logic.
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Keep in mind his explanations will lack rational and reasoning thinking. He'll tell you what they always say. How god didn't really mean it like that and then tell you what he really meant.
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
bennington wrote:
What is your "faith" anchored to if you simply believe it for it's own sake? Couldn't you just as easily be a Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, Scientologist etc? What is this faith of yours, besides wholeheartedly agreeing with what someone else says, without a moment's thought?Scroobius Pip wrote:
it's called a faith, you don't need evidence, you just need faith.Do you have any evidence for the existence of heaven?
That is exactly what faith is, except it's hardly ever accepted with a moment's thought. Contemplation, exploration, investigation...are a just a couple of the concepts/tools that lead to acceptance and faith, whatever that faith might be.
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
I'm still waiting for evidence...I haven't said anything about any story... Seems like your putting words in my mouth. Seems like your the one living in a make belive world.
Your arguments are I'll informed and your arrogent. If you can't back your arguments up with some sort of logic I'm not waisting anymore time on you
You are going to be waiting for a long, looooonnnng time. Faith is the ability to accept or believe without evidence.
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WSoxfan86 wrote:
Read on. God assisted them in the ensuing warScroobius Pip wrote:
I did. I saw no reference in there to God supporting it.WSoxfan86 wrote:
Read the nice little story in Judges 19Moridin wrote:
Please show me these sources. I will explain each one.WSoxfan86 wrote:
My God is love
the Bible begs to differ. It contains scores of passages relating tales of gOD ordering the murder, rape, and cannibalism of men, women and children.
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
So... world hunger, cancer, AIDS, war, genocide, environmental disasters, tyranny, corruption, greed, violence, ignorance, prejudice and much more... Sounds pretty cool to me
" war, genocide, tyranny, corruption, greed, violence, ignorance, prejudice"
Those are all traits of man and the choice to engage in those activities..
The same could be said for world hunger and unchecked population growth. Even environmental disasters can be avoided to a great extent. Some areas are more prone to disaster than others. Don't build or populate there.
And AIDS an cancer for the most part, can be attributed to lifestyle choices. -
Hey scroobius, if you don't believe in god then why are you arguing over a "fake" being. If he's is not real in your mind you can't say he helped with the wars and such.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
I choose the door of whichever god actually exists. I have a one-in-a-billion chance of choosing the right one, so I'll probably just pick one at random and devote my entire life to that religionScroobius Pip wrote:
KeMiKaL wrote:
If you're God sends me to Hell simply for not believing in him, then he's a petty and childish little douchebagI do... For those who don't, I hope you're right, for your sake.
Nobody sends you anywhere. The decisions are yours to make. It's very clearly spelled out what is behind each door. You get to choose the door.
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