Capping Capture Range
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℣ï₭ї₦Ǥ👹 wrote: I have heard that Baic tells innocent peps to start or or join a V on us or they will wipe them out. SOP 4 Baic. As 4 the problem. It's already been noted. Vendetta range needs to be adjusted so that every1 has an equal capping field. Not just the lil snipers. Kk
we dont need to force people to start v's cuz there are lots of people out there who are more than willing to help beat u. u just dont have a lot of friends on this game and no amount of money u spend is gonna compensate for that, sorry 😪 -
I got an idea Nick, you'll like it. In exchange for the snipers getting to keep their cross town range on me they should have to use double stamina. Make em really earn it when capping my turf. Right now they get on for five minutes plant, wait 24 hours get on for thirty and cap. No punching, no muss, no fuss. Make em earn something.
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℣ї₭ï₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
I'm sure if you asked nicely Nick would step down and let you handle things. Also rename this to Das Wars to feed your ego. Anyone who attempts to cap one of your mighty turfs shall be banned and what not. We can figure out the kinks later, KK?I got an idea Nick, you'll like it. In exchange for the snipers getting to keep their cross town range on me they should have to use double stamina. Make em really earn it when capping my turf. Right now they get on for five minutes plant, wait 24 hours get on for thirty and cap. No punching, no muss, no fuss. They're back to jerking to the Macy's catalogue in no time. Make em earn something.
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℣ï₭ї₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
How exactly does a weasel play a game? I'm intrigued.༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
G✂℣ï₭ї₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Das us lil guysهཿ༜ཿه wrote:
Good golly. Wake up Bubble guy that's what we named U. Here's a point. Y'all keep complaining and fussing about spenders and money. Check it out. It's cuz of peps like me, not U, that Nick can afford his time, effort and energy on this game. He has ✂Das? It's the only equalizer us little 'Find some little guys and fight back. It goes both ways.
This game doesn't have jack shit to do with RL or the economy so save your nonsense for Fox News.
Oh darn! The big bad man(?) is gonna take my digital circles?! 😱 Please don't I just want to hug them. Since you're obviously in the wealthy tier make sure you pay your taxes on all that money like Obama says 😉 -
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Oh yeah, well fuck you.℣ї₭ï₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
I'm sure if you asked nicely Nick would step down and let you handle things. Also rename this to Das Wars to feed your ego. Anyone who attempts to cap one of your mighty turfs shall be banned and what not. We can figure out the kinks later, KK?I got an idea Nick, you'll like it. In exchange for the snipers getting to keep their cross town range on me they should have to use double stamina. Make em really earn it when capping my turf. Right now they get on for five minutes plant, wait 24 hours get on for thirty and cap. No punching, no muss, no fuss. They're back to jerking to the Macy's catalogue in no time. Make em earn something.
I was captain of my debate team don't screw with me. KK
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℣ї₭ï₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
👋😉🍷 Das Games 2013, may the odds be ever in your favor...₩ᎥℕᎧ wrote:
Oh yeah, well fuck you.℣ї₭ï₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
I'm sure if you asked nicely Nick would step down and let you handle things. Also rename this to Das Wars to feed your ego. Anyone who attempts to cap one of your mighty turfs shall be banned and what not. We can figure out the kinks later, KK?I got an idea Nick, you'll like it. In exchange for the snipers getting to keep their cross town range on me they should have to use double stamina. Make em really earn it when capping my turf. Right now they get on for five minutes plant, wait 24 hours get on for thirty and cap. No punching, no muss, no fuss. They're back to jerking to the Macy's catalogue in no time. Make em earn something.
I was captain of my debate team don't screw with me. KK
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👆Big Jakey, my apologies for not also addressing you. Y'all seem to do everything together so I figured address y'all as a unit 😉
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Damn BAIC is better than Viagra huh das? The hard you've had for us is going on what? 5years now? I guess I'd be pissed if a bunch of hippies were kicking my ass too. Get off your high horse, maybe you should dust off that Lillywhite account of yours and accidentally post from it like last time huh. Better yet why don't all the mules you guys have disband their V now ok?? GTFOHAAGMABFFS
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O U 8 1 2 wrote:
Hippies rule. Haters drool. Think I'll go light some incense under DAS's azz... 👹Damn BAIC is better than Viagra huh das? The hard you've had for us is going on what? 5years now? I guess I'd be pissed if a bunch of hippies were kicking my ass too. Get off your high horse, maybe you should dust off that Lillywhite account of yours and accidentally post from it like last time huh. Better yet why don't all the mules you guys have disband their V now ok?? GTFOHAAGMABFFS
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Nick you said-
"However, several players raised some good points that affect the edge cases, i.e. accounts with low Influence joining vendettas and being able to capture without fear of capture, due to the 10% Influence rule. As a result, we will be suspending the 10% Influence Rule for players who are involved in a vendetta. We believe this is a valid tradeoff for players to consider when joining a vendetta, and will hopefully cut down on the usage of smaller players as a tool for capturing big players' turf."
These said mobs can just jump in a v ,cap and jump right out.
If you have a few of them,it's already exploited and nothing changes.
Maybe said mobs need 24 hrs maturity like their targets for this change to make a difference.
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I'm really disappointed to hear that the ranging formula won't be changed at all. Everybody knows it's antiquated and broken and something needs to change. Here's my data. I have 75k mob. I get targeted weekly by vendettas with a total of more than 75k mob. They cap all the turf within range that week. I cap zero in return. The same guys repeat that week after week after week because they know there's nothing I can do about it. Give us a chance, nick!
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If you're not going to fix ranging, the bigger players (20k, 40k, 60k, etc) will start picking smaller, softer targets. Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is just a fun little iPhone game that most of us play in our spare minutes. Until now, players could play their style of game play, whether that meant 10 minutes per day or 2 hours per day. Our culture right now is for the bigger players to mostly leave the innocent, smaller players alone. I can see that changing now and that's not good for player retention. I'm here to enjoy the game and not just sell stamina refills. I have no grudge against the smaller players that keep putting me in vendettas that I can't retaliate against so I don't mind making peace with them at some point and going after smaller noobish players who don't have the ability to exploit the ranging advantage. It won't be as much fun, especially for the smaller/casual players, but it'll be better for me than capping no turf each week. Watch out noobs! lol
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Range should be based on mob/turf built I reckon that way you can reduce your range if necessary there should be a turf to mob ratio on range where by 1 turf is equivalent to say 5 mob so having 1k turf is the same as 5k mob.
Mobs with 15/20k and 000's of limit is ridiculous as they spam and you can't cap as they are just out of range and many players who could range them under that level are usually.
Also the maximum range on any player should be capped at say 2/3miles..........
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*new usually
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Why have different range at all mobs? You are able to be capped no matter of mob or influence at level 50. So why not just put the max range at 1mile for everyone once they hit level 50? It takes the whole variability out of the game. Much simpler. I have 63k. If you can get more then that in a vendetta, your able to cap me the same distance I can cap you. If you can't get more then my mob in vendetta, I can cap you. Bam! Simple, and easy for nick to fix
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If all mobs have the same range, it'd stop the capability to snipe and eliminate the V penalty for the most part. There is no easy solution, and someone - small mobs or large - will suffer. I feel since many mobs are so careless when ranging, maybe if the cap range is reduced, it'd be harder to range, and it'd weed out bad rangers, thereby helping large mobs some? Between micromobs, mules, different mob sizes, and cap range, it seems there'll always be someone at a disadvantage.
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i agree. maybe when hopping into a v, all members have the cap range of the total mob. but then the 24 hour wait on turfs should be decreased cuz thats the only way that both sides would have a fighting chance
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What if how your mob is armed influenced cap range? It seems obvious a mob of sniper rifles should have a longer distance than a mob of tommy guns. Then you could change the upkeep/cost appropriately so that could be another trade off to how you arm your mob. I'm not saying base it on this 100%, but it makes sense to me. (Apologies if I'm not the 1st with this idea)
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Or maybe vehicles to change attack range. Cars/trucks/helicopters. I hear that submarines were very popular with the mob. Haha
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✮⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛✮ wrote:
How is this going to ruin the v penalty? They would still have 40% defenses down. It doesn't affect it at all. Your just mad cuz you won't be impossible to cap. We aren't impossible to cap ever cuz of vendettas adding mobs together. Why should you be able to add mob together, AND be impossible to cap at range?If all mobs have the same range, it'd stop the capability to snipe and eliminate the V penalty for the most part. There is no easy solution, and someone - small mobs or large - will suffer. I feel since many mobs are so careless when ranging, maybe if the cap range is reduced, it'd be harder to range, and it'd weed out bad rangers, thereby helping large mobs some? Between micromobs, mules, different mob sizes, and cap range, it seems there'll always be someone at a disadvantage.
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If a smaller player wants to snipe you, they wouldn't be able to use range if all mobs had equal range. Say I'm setting up to snipe you, I hop in range, and plant my setup turfs. You can instantly cap them all while I wait for my turfs to mature. So while you may still be on discount, I wouldn't be able to set up on you w/o being capped. As for being mad, I'm semi-retired, don't plan on joining a V again, so this doesn't affect me directly. Consider me a neutral party in this argument.
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I am totally loving the toddler talk from those that have no concept of play balance.
I'm just waiting for the toys to be thrown out of the sandpit.
Oh wait. That already happened.
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⌖🔥ToughGuy🔥⌖ wrote:
BuyingAs usual nick wants to make it about whoever throws him thousands of dollars his way gets an advantage.
I agree
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I'm just curious as to how Nick envisages the game? Does he want a few mega players covering the globe and dictating the rules on the smaller players? Or does he want thousands of smaller players fighting in chaos? Or maybe a blend in between.....
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How about a new loot item that operates like police maps except it increases the capping range of a turf? That would help.
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
Already been suggested but, JD, a lot of players seemed to have dismissed it. It seems like a great loot idea. You could save them up and then use them on the members of a vendetta to cap their ass when not in your normal range. I think it would need to work for a week at a time (to counter a v) and would be best applied to a player (not a single turf). Maybe stackable to increase your range to a certain max distance?How about a new loot item that operates like police maps except it increases the capping range of a turf? That would help.
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✮⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛✮ wrote:
Your an idiot. This is what we are forced into doing! If you remove sniping, everyone has to do the same thing. Have a vendetta to defend your turf until its live, and then cap the opposing force. Equal game right thereIf a smaller player wants to snipe you, they wouldn't be able to use range if all mobs had equal range. Say I'm setting up to snipe you, I hop in range, and plant my setup turfs. You can instantly cap them all while I wait for my turfs to mature. So while you may still be on discount, I wouldn't be able to set up on you w/o being capped. As for being mad, I'm semi-retired, don't plan on joining a V again, so this doesn't affect me directly. Consider me a neutral party in this argument.
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😡ҝعყʂعཞ😈Տȫƶع😡 wrote:
Don't like doing it on a player. Needs to be geographic in nature. One week limit is great. Perhaps it could increase the cap range of all your turf within a certain radius. Careful placement of these turfs would bring strategy back plus make finding that turf a high priority for the attackers.Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
Already been suggested but, JD, a lot of players seemed to have dismissed it. It seems like a great loot idea. You could save them up and then use them on the members of a vendetta to cap their ass when not in your normal range. I think it would need to work for a week at a time (to counter a v) and would be best applied to a player (not a single turf). Maybe stackable to increase your range to a certain max distance?How about a new loot item that operates like police maps except it increases the capping range of a turf? That would help.
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Vtec: Yeah, but larger players can wreck havoc w/o a V. And not every player can or will run V's. Seems like you're doing fine in TW as-is, right? I don't see you getting capped out of everywhere. By the way, you misspelled "you're" - uneducated idiot.
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Outside a v, I deserve to be able to kick your ass. I've been punching codes for 2 years, how long have you been?
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