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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Hmm. Intergenerational marriage was a primary behavior of both ancient Christians and Hebrews. So very hard for you to use that in your argument as your own religion doesnt believe it's a sinThere are advocates in the "intergenerational marriage" which individuals are claiming that they have the desire to have sex with children with scientific data too. It's a behavior.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
That is a stawman since it doesn't deal with the real issue at hand. Your just attacking my faith rather than the issue₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Hmm. Intergenerational marriage was a primary behavior of both ancient Christians and Hebrews. So very hard for you to use that in your argument as your own religion doesnt believe it's a sinThere are advocates in the "intergenerational marriage" which individuals are claiming that they have the desire to have sex with children with scientific data too. It's a behavior.
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Just say you don't have a real position and walk
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Only because you're using your faith as your only evidence. You have yet to give any concrete example to your claim it's only behavioral. When there's more evidence to the contrary than can back up your claim⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
That is a stawman since it doesn't deal with the real issue at hand. Your just attacking my faith rather than the issue₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Hmm. Intergenerational marriage was a primary behavior of both ancient Christians and Hebrews. So very hard for you to use that in your argument as your own religion doesnt believe it's a sinThere are advocates in the "intergenerational marriage" which individuals are claiming that they have the desire to have sex with children with scientific data too. It's a behavior.
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Isn't old enough... with the amount of people in the world it wouldn't take long for it to spread?? And how might I ask would you know that, can you give me a number crunch on how maney years, people and time it would take... You can't jump on an answer like that just say "I think its false because I'm smart and that's my reason". And how long do you think it has been around, Hint.) America is not the only country with science.
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As far as I know the procedure is only ten years old. Theoretically it would gab to be out long enough for hundreds of examples to reach sexual maturity before any conclusions could be reached
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
That is a stawman since it doesn't deal with the real issue at hand. Your just attacking my faith rather than the issue₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Hmm. Intergenerational marriage was a primary behavior of both ancient Christians and Hebrews. So very hard for you to use that in your argument as your own religion doesnt believe it's a sinThere are advocates in the "intergenerational marriage" which individuals are claiming that they have the desire to have sex with children with scientific data too. It's a behavior.
That's also a strawman since I've said nothing of the sort -
That is a stawman since it doesn't deal with the real issue at hand. Your just attacking my faith rather than the issue
That's also a strawman since I've said nothing of the sort -
MDTenacity wrote:
It's called Lamarckism and was debunked 100 years agoIsn't old enough... with the amount of people in the world it wouldn't take long for it to spread?? And how might I ask would you know that, can you give me a number crunch on how maney years, people and time it would take... You can't jump on an answer like that just say "I think its false because I'm smart and that's my reason". And how long do you think it has been around, Hint.) America is not the only country with science.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
You haven't offered any proof to the issue for me to debunk. Your total argument so far consisted of "no" and "animals do disgusting things"That is a stawman since it doesn't deal with the real issue at hand. Your just attacking my faith rather than the issue
That's also a strawman since I've said nothing of the sort -
Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
First you must offer some proof that it isn't genetic.Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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Amish Hitman wrote:
Don't really think this is a wtf moment more like a WTFIDONTUNTUNDERSTAND kinda moment. No it's not like people are making them because they want to, once this was discovered they re-evaluated how to fix this problem and then created a more stable procedure. But as I said before and I'll slow it down for you IT BECAME A TRAIT meaning that those who's gender was genetically changed will now permanently have the possibility of his/her's future relatives pick up the exact same gene.Sorry but no. The reason we see more as you want to say full homosexuals is because it has became more acceptable. People were taught to live in fear and that homosexuality was a disease. So if I am to follow your logic you are saying people are genetically engineering gay people. WTF??? Here is a good example of my first point This is a PSA
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Almost all evidence we have suggests that both homosexuality and bisexuality are indeed genetic. You wont accept it because it goes against your religious beliefs. Obviously god couldn't have created someone who genetically didn't have any choice but to do a sin right?
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Therefore to your way o thinking it has to be a choice. You've given zero evidence to say so.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Why? If I'm more genetically more agressive should act upon that more since its genetic? The only justification you have to offer is that some receive more testosterone than others therefore they should act upon unatural causes? It seems you don't know what genetics and behaviors are₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
First you must offer some proof that it isn't genetic.Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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MDTenacity
That is a classic example of Lamarckism and heredity doesn't work that way. Dyeing my hair green doesn't make my children's hair green.
Don't really think this is a wtf moment more like a WTFIDONTUNTUNDERSTAND kinda moment. No it's not like people are making them because they want to, once this was discovered they re-evaluated how to fix this problem and then created a more stable procedure. But as I said before and I'll slow it down for you IT BECAME A TRAIT meaning that those who's gender was genetically changed will now permanently have the possibility of his/her's future relatives pick up the exact same gene. -
This issue is a moral one and should say out from the hands of our government to decide.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
But homosexuality is observed constantly in nature. You can't call something observed in nature unnatural⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Why? If I'm more genetically more agressive should act upon that more since its genetic? The only justification you have to offer is that some receive more testosterone than others therefore they should act upon unatural causes? It seems you don't know what genetics and behaviors are₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
First you must offer some proof that it isn't genetic.Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
And yet I really have not heard or seen any LEGIT info that there is a gay gene that has been here all humanity. I still find it more of choice sence the amount of people effected by my logic can't be proven by EITHER SIDE. So in this case I believe that with the logic I posted before may have in a way caused a more acceptable look on homosexuals bringing out the gays of choice. I'll side with August on this.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
First you must offer some proof that it isn't genetic.Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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See here's my problem here. Religionists and homophobes use their beliefs to inhibit the rights of homosexuals. And whats bad is its working. In most states gay marriage was voted down. Doma prevents any gay marriage from receiving federal protection. As it stands now the gays indeed are a persecuted class
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
If that's your thinking I fear those follow it₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
But homosexuality is observed constantly in nature. You can't call something observed in nature unnatural⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Why? If I'm more genetically more agressive should act upon that more since its genetic? The only justification you have to offer is that some receive more testosterone than others therefore they should act upon unatural causes? It seems you don't know what genetics and behaviors are₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
First you must offer some proof that it isn't genetic.Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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Then how do we as a society define whats "natural" then? If looking to nature isn't the answer then what is? What can we use as a guideline?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
How about when Gay and or Bisexual people get together it's consentual where as the others on your list are clearly wrong. That is a stupid, stupid point. What does it matter to you if people want to be Gay? Name one person it ACTUALLY hurts except for those of you who are clearly just against it because you don't like it.. That's a babies attitude. Go back to your pram!Belial, since your spawning this issue what evidence will you accept that homosexuality is a behavior like bisexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia and beastiality?
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I fear people like Augustine tbh.
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People can live illogically but just because they live doesn't make them any more logical. Same with behavior just because it's been done therefore it's justified is very bad thinking and fallible
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Belail
"But homosexuality is observed constantly in nature. You can't call something observed in nature unnatural"
Well, insest in animal aswell and everyone know that's unnatural... And I swear if I see someone post that insest is ok I'm going to recommend a strait jacket, come to your house and put it on you myself (just painting a picture don't freakout). -
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
But that doesn't make it unnatural. You're argument is even though it's in nature it is not natural. So does that mean Augustine is our guideline for what's natural?People can live illogically but just because they live doesn't make them any more logical. Same with behavior just because it's been done therefore it's justified is very bad thinking and fallible
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If we all thought like Augustine we'd still be burning people at the stake for being a witch.
Oh and stoning people for thinking the world was round.
Maybe even shunning people for thinking the earth orbited the sun. -
MDTenacity wrote:
Actually incest isn't that common in animals. Primarily because of the genetic side effects. Instincts tend to lead species away from thatBelail
"But homosexuality is observed constantly in nature. You can't call something observed in nature unnatural"
Well, insest in animal aswell and everyone know that's unnatural... And I swear if I see someone post that insest is ok I'm going to recommend a strait jacket, come to your house and put it on you myself (just painting a picture don't freakout).
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