A question for deep thinkers and simple thinkers!
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Bayani wrote:
I'm not making the fallacy. You are. And your response irrelevant because it doesn't answer the question.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote: So the Nazi culture worked for 60 years why are they not valid today. Are you saying your morals are better than theirs?
1. Appeal to tradition. Just because "Nazi Culture" is suggested to have survived, does not make morally right.2. I think in your second message, you stated Morality is absolute. It clearly isn't or, if you take the Bible as historically accurate, we'd still be selling raped women to their rapists for 50 silver pieces.
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Mystery, you understand that he doesn't really understand all this. He's just parroting what the website says. It explains so much.
That's why he doesn't understand the various forms of fallacy, why he continually asks simple yes/no questions, regardless of what is said to him...
It's a con. He's aware of the clever trick he was trying to pull, but probably doesn't understand that the script is based on logical deception to "prove" God exists, (which it fails to do... No truth statement at the end..)
This whole thread is him trying to dupe people with leading arguments and true/false only answers to get to the end proof, of which there isn't, but by then you are on the phone tithing and it doesn't matter.
A good little evangelical. I don't blame him at all. It's those damned internets.
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An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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Is it impossible that the God of the bible exists? If such a God exists could He reveal things to us such that we can know them for certain. If it is impossible then I want to know how it is impossible.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote: Yes it does, in order to make that assertion requires the law of identity that a is a . and you use the law of excluded middle to determine whither that assertion is true or false.
Haha. It requires it, but it keyword: subjective, thus not absolute.
What is a to me is b to you.
Deviousness is a judgment, an opinion.Thus, Brown notes it is devious, yet you do not - though I suspect this has more to do with the Halo Effect (a cognitive bias) imparing your judgement over any critical reflection on the arguments made on the website.
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Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Science can never prove impossibility. It can only establish improbability.Is it impossible that the God of the bible exists? If such a God exists could He reveal things to us such that we can know them for certain. If it is impossible then I want to know how it is impossible.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Your question is a red herring. My response was not an answer, but was to provide feedback about the specific logical fallacies you committed.Bayani wrote:
I'm not making the fallacy. You are. And your response irrelevant because it doesn't answer the question.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote: So the Nazi culture worked for 60 years why are they not valid today. Are you saying your morals are better than theirs?
1. Appeal to tradition. Just because "Nazi Culture" is suggested to have survived, does not make morally right.2. I think in your second message, you stated Morality is absolute. It clearly isn't or, if you take the Bible as historically accurate, we'd still be selling raped women to their rapists for 50 silver pieces.
In future, if you are glib to assert I make a logical fallacy, at least stipulate which one.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Request for Negative proof.Is it impossible that the God of the bible exists? If such a God exists could He reveal things to us such that we can know them for certain. If it is impossible then I want to know how it is impossible.
Burden of proof rests on those making the claim.
We do not say "God is impossible", in the same way we do not say "it is impossible for Chewbacca to have created the universe".
There is no negative proof.
You start from the null hypothesis and seek evidence.
Starting with an answer in mind is not how to seek for information about reality - or "truth".
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bye🎵 wrote:
But he's not. All he's doing is turning people off. If I didn't already believe, I'd be running quickly away!Mystery, you understand that he doesn't really understand all this. He's just parroting what the website says. It explains so much.
That's why he doesn't understand the various forms of fallacy, why he continually asks simple yes/no questions, regardless of what is said to him...
It's a con. He's aware of the clever trick he was trying to pull, but probably doesn't understand that the script is based on logical deception to "prove" God exists, (which it fails to do... No truth statement at the end..)
This whole thread is him trying to dupe people with leading arguments and true/false only answers to get to the end proof, of which there isn't, but by then you are on the phone tithing and it doesn't matter.
A good little evangelical. I don't blame him at all. It's those damned internets.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Is it impossible that the God of the bible exists? If such a God exists could He reveal things to us such that we can know them for certain. If it is impossible then I want to know how it is impossible.
If "God", and in this instance we are talking about Yahweh, is unable to reveal himself, he is not omnipotent.
Then why call him God?
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Like, it's highly improbable that we came from a gene pool of 1.
It's highly improbable that invisible dead people retain the function of their physically dead brains.
It's highly improbable that evil is either ignored or perpetrated by a good God.
Oh, shit. I said I wasn't going to do this. Bad Brown. Bad.
No religious debate allowed.
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Bayani wrote:
Now how do you know that?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Request for Negative proof.Is it impossible that the God of the bible exists? If such a God exists could He reveal things to us such that we can know them for certain. If it is impossible then I want to know how it is impossible.
Burden of proof rests on those making the claim.
We do not say "God is impossible", in the same way we do not say "it is impossible for Chewbacca to have created the universe".
There is no negative proof.
You start from the null hypothesis and seek evidence.
Starting with an answer in mind is not how to seek for information about reality - or "truth".
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Politics & religion in the forum today - what is going on?
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bye🎵 wrote:
I gave in & capped one. I seriously hate being ignored.Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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bye🎵 wrote:
😹😹😹Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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bye🎵 wrote:
So you do believe that the laws of logic exist then.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Yes. Now what does the website say to do next?MR BROWN answer me, are contradictions ok in your worldview?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
There is no denying that they do exist. As does everything else that man has made up. Like the number eleventeen.bye🎵 wrote:
So you do believe that the laws of logic exist then.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Yes. Now what does the website say to do next?MR BROWN answer me, are contradictions ok in your worldview?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
It's logical.Bayani wrote:
Now how do you know that?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Request for Negative proof.Is it impossible that the God of the bible exists? If such a God exists could He reveal things to us such that we can know them for certain. If it is impossible then I want to know how it is impossible.
Burden of proof rests on those making the claim.
We do not say "God is impossible", in the same way we do not say "it is impossible for Chewbacca to have created the universe".
There is no negative proof.
You start from the null hypothesis and seek evidence.
Starting with an answer in mind is not how to seek for information about reality - or "truth".
Do you start with a belief in Unicorns, or Dragons until proven otherwise?/facepalm
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YOU wrote:
I seriously don't know why I keep saying seriously. I think this thread is starting to rot my brain.bye🎵 wrote:
I gave in & capped one. I seriously hate being ignored.Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Of course the exist you twit. Everyone has said they do. What we are saying is that they are not universal and not absolute.bye🎵 wrote:
So you do believe that the laws of logic exist then.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Yes. Now what does the website say to do next?MR BROWN answer me, are contradictions ok in your worldview?
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Bayani wrote:
I'm holding a pen in my hand and not holding a pen in my hand at the same time and the same way.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Of course the exist you twit. Everyone has said they do. What we are saying is that they are not universal and not absolute.bye🎵 wrote:
So you do believe that the laws of logic exist then.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Yes. Now what does the website say to do next?MR BROWN answer me, are contradictions ok in your worldview?
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I can not debate three people. Not tonight...
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Mystery wrote:
Speaking about your statement. Not your opinion. That was a strawmanYOU wrote:
I seriously don't know why I keep saying seriously. I think this thread is starting to rot my brain.bye🎵 wrote:
I gave in & capped one. I seriously hate being ignored.Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Good for you. Doesn't make sense, but good for you.Bayani wrote:
I'm holding a pen in my hand and not holding a pen in my hand at the same time and the same way.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Of course the exist you twit. Everyone has said they do. What we are saying is that they are not universal and not absolute.bye🎵 wrote:
So you do believe that the laws of logic exist then.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Yes. Now what does the website say to do next?MR BROWN answer me, are contradictions ok in your worldview?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
@An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false." How is that a strawman?Mystery wrote:
Speaking about your statement. Not your opinion. That was a strawmanYOU wrote:
I seriously don't know why I keep saying seriously. I think this thread is starting to rot my brain.bye🎵 wrote:
I gave in & capped one. I seriously hate being ignored.Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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Mystery; permission to spam this thread (in moderation) as it has lost it's most valuable asset (entertainment)?
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Mystery wrote:
It isn't. He just thinks it is.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
@An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false." How is that a strawman?Mystery wrote:
Speaking about your statement. Not your opinion. That was a strawmanYOU wrote:
I seriously don't know why I keep saying seriously. I think this thread is starting to rot my brain.bye🎵 wrote:
I gave in & capped one. I seriously hate being ignored.Mystery wrote:
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!An opinion isn't fact; therefore it isn't true or false.
I seriously want to cap you right now.
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Next poster has the feet of a chicken and the nose of MJ.
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Beep.
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