Message for foos. Regarding Lep's turf.🍀
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Form a defensive turf ring around some turf? Anyone who wants to respect can join the ring? Leave Leps turf out of capping range for anyone to gather round? Will be protected and respectful. A no-cap zone.
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Mystery wrote:
What? Like blaming a song for someone committing suicide? People are so ridiculous sometimes.
Btw, I wasn't referring to you, but to people that do that.Right. Lawyers do that. and yes it is ridiculous.
But you have to realize that when dealing with someone that is thinking of taking their own life, they are not thinking rationally. Notions of "ridiculous" don't mean the same to them as to you and I. Doing anything that might make it seem that you are willing to memorialize those actions is actually a very irresponsible thing to do when you think of it from that perspective. Who knows who you may be influencing? Yes, your intentions are good but are the unintended consequences?
I fully support people wanting to memorialize anything that they want to. I'm simply saying that just because you can doesn't mean that you should...
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I've renamed a turf in LA by the beach.
If nick could make his hometown turf static that would be nice -
This is way I say that the best way to remember Lep is to take a piece of his turf and hang on to it. Let it mean to you whatever you want it to mean.
We build public statues and monuments to people that have accomplished great, extraordinary things. Things that benefit others often at great expense to themselves. To do so for anything less is just plain wrong.
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
I have been thinking the same thing, but haven't found the words to say it. I dont want anyone to see memorials of lep and think they can solve their problems the same way. I will continue to grieve, remember, and honor lep with my BAIC family. I am uncomfortable honoring him publically for fear what that may do to other people that may be in a similar state.This is way I say that the best way to remember Lep is to take a piece of his turf and hang on to it. Let it mean to you whatever you want it to mean.
We build public statues and monuments to people that have accomplished great, extraordinary things. Things that benefit others often at great expense to themselves. To do so for anything less is just plain wrong.
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@JD, I didn't mean ridiculous referring to the person thinking of committing suicide. I meant the family members saying that something like a song made them do it.
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Mystery wrote:
I realized that. Hence my comment about lawyers. :)@JD, I didn't mean ridiculous referring to the person thinking of committing suicide. I meant the family members saying that something like a song made them do it.
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Mystery wrote:
That would be great.Nick could even pick some, like 1 turf in each city he's in, and make them unable to be capped. That way there would be memorial turf around, but his friends could still have a memorial turf to cap too.
I have to remind iks that this is about lep and if you really think about it you'd know what HE would want and that would be for his friends to take comfort however they can. He would live fir the people he loved to have his turf. But a happy medium would be for nick to lock some down.
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Respect lep. Honor the passed. It's awesome to see goodwill surface even in a game based forum. But threatening to go after people that would cap his turf? Not sure who the dick would be there...
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Let's request some of his turf be "made static" as was mentioned. But please no drama and arguing whether a player who caps his turf is being disrespectful. If someone tries to take out all his turf I would support stopping them. Otherwise a sticky thread needs to be made ensuring all future players do not "break" the "rule" of not capping lep.
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Apologies but I messed up the blockquote in my response to mystery. I just wanted to clear it up by saying the following words are mine:
Right. Lawyers do that. and yes it is ridiculous.
But you have to realize that when dealing with someone that is thinking of taking their own life, they are not thinking rationally. Notions of "ridiculous" don't mean the same to them as to you and I. Doing anything that might make it seem that you are willing to memorialize those actions is actually a very irresponsible thing to do when you think of it from that perspective. Who knows who you may be influencing? Yes, your intentions are good but are the unintended consequences?
I fully support people wanting to memorialize anything that they want to. I'm simply saying that just because you can doesn't mean that you should...
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
Building monuments for Lep and the great impact he had on many of us is hardly wrong. Lep did do great things and I celebrate his lifeThis is way I say that the best way to remember Lep is to take a piece of his turf and hang on to it. Let it mean to you whatever you want it to mean.
We build public statues and monuments to people that have accomplished great, extraordinary things. Things that benefit others often at great expense to themselves. To do so for anything less is just plain wrong.
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🍀Belial wrote: Building monuments for Lep and the great impact he had on many of us is hardly wrong. Lep did do great things and I celebrate his life
No it isn't wrong except when you make it a public memorial. When you make a public memorial, you are making a very different statement than what a personal remembrance makes. Societies (yes TW is a society) need to be very careful when choosing heros to memorialize. Those standards need to be VERY high.Societies die when their heros cease to be extraordinary.
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It's all in how you look at it. It's a celebration of his life, not his death.
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
And I would argue that Lep was very extraordinary🍀Belial wrote: Building monuments for Lep and the great impact he had on many of us is hardly wrong. Lep did do great things and I celebrate his life
No it isn't wrong except when you make it a public memorial. When you make a public memorial, you are making a very different statement than what a personal remembrance makes. Societies (yes TW is a society) need to be very careful when choosing heros to memorialize. Those standards need to be VERY high.Societies die when their heros cease to be extraordinary.
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🍀Belial wrote:
And to you, (I'm assuming you knew him) I'm sure he was. I'd never want to take away from that.Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
And I would argue that Lep was very extraordinary🍀Belial wrote: Building monuments for Lep and the great impact he had on many of us is hardly wrong. Lep did do great things and I celebrate his life
No it isn't wrong except when you make it a public memorial. When you make a public memorial, you are making a very different statement than what a personal remembrance makes. Societies (yes TW is a society) need to be very careful when choosing heros to memorialize. Those standards need to be VERY high.Societies die when their heros cease to be extraordinary.
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Rip lep. I feel far too close to death ATM. I hope all who knew him better than I did are ok.
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Ok I completely understand the stance of wanting to protect Lep's turfs, but I don't agree with horrible things happening to him. If I was built next to him, I'd want to cap a turf of his just to have one and this would be my way to honor him. I wouldn't want to wipe him out or anything, but I'd want a Lep original.
Lep and I weren't friends. I'd say he didn't like me at all. But as I got to know him, I would say I had a ton of respect for the guy. And I would feel I'd be honoring him to take a turf and hold it in honor of him
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I wrote this in another thread:
We all handle tragedy in different ways. Here in TW our "tangible selves" are text and turf. It is inevitable that when someone that we care about leaves the game that we want to keep a part of them alive. Text and turf. As we all move on in the game and process unexpected changes, each of us responds differently. Some war, some hoard, some recluse, some lash out, some try to lend a voice to the unspoken. -
As much as we may want someone to respond or react differently after a tragic change, we can't make them. Let's all choose to let everyone respond in their own way and not come out on the other side of this forgetting that text and turf are temporary. Impact your life by being the best person you can be, learning from mistakes, evolving and choosing to be and give love.
Yes this is inspired by Lep, but it carries truth in more than this. I care for you all. If you need someone to talk to, please reach out. -
We all need to handle this in our own way. Iks may handle it in his way, others however they want.
I for one plan to cap a very hard to reach turf and rename it.
I suggest that we, as a society, consider a day not unlike Gas Day, to honor Lep in the only way he liked to play this game....
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Which was with nothing held back. I played with Gasface and was around for the first Gas Day. His "legend" is dead and most people don't remember him.
Accordingly, I suggest to Johnny that we rename Gas Day as Lep Day.
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Humboldtmoog wrote:
I can get behind this but I would propose keeping gas day as is and ADDING lep day as another excuse to cap the crap outta each other.Which was with nothing held back. I played with Gasface and was around for the first Gas Day. His "legend" is dead and most people don't remember him.
Accordingly, I suggest to Johnny that we rename Gas Day as Lep Day.
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Please understand that the impact of Gasface leaving the game is very different than Lep. Maybe a day for Lep is a good idea, but I think a bit more time should pass for the people who are only 24 hours in to processing the very real loss of their friend.
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As usual, Batel proves that she is as wise as she is beautiful.
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🔫ΘмдяЂэ฿цтснэя🍴 wrote:
Already been voiced. And I fully agree with you.I do not mean to disrespect anyone or anything being discussed here by those of you contemplating and/or suggesting that the TW developers establish a permanent memorial to a player who took his own life.
Please do not be surprised or offended by the notion that there are players who would be bothered by such a thing.
🐽🍴🐮
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My heart to all of you who actually knew him IRL. And how you deal with it is a personal choice. Frankly anyone capping more than 1 turf if they knew him is not anymore wrong or right than those choosing to protect it. You all have your reasons but the last I think you'd agree with me is that Lep would not want his friends to hold any personal grudges against each other.
If you want to honor your friend, do the right thing and one that results in an agreeable & amicable result that will have you all closer and happy(not about bickering your own interpretation of what Lep wants).
For me, I've renamed a turf built on that day as an honor to a TW player who has brought both unspeakble joy & loss to the community. ✌🍀
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I think a great way to memorialize him would be for all of his friends to get together and make a huge four leaf clover out of turf, a massive turf art. Protect the and keep it safe. I didn't get the privilege of been able to know him, but this is what a memorial is... Something that is built in his stead. A union of common interests and goals dispute faction or alliance.
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Despite.... Not dispute. Sorry!
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
Day of the Hahahaha™👈 that could work.Humboldtmoog wrote:
I can get behind this but I would propose keeping gas day as is and ADDING lep day as another excuse to cap the crap outta each other.Which was with nothing held back. I played with Gasface and was around for the first Gas Day. His "legend" is dead and most people don't remember him.
Accordingly, I suggest to Johnny that we rename Gas Day as Lep Day.
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