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What's all this ballywhoo of the US government shutting down?
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The liberals are being bitches again
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Shut it down! We'd all be better off!
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It wont be shut down, just the unimportant things wont be used. But shit like national defence and all that shit will continue to run, jus i dont think they will get paid untill the govt can come up with a budget plan!
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Hey, I may not paid! If that happens I'll have to start a massive capping spree to make up for the loss of income...
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
The reason you can have an iPhone is because of the government... they put in the effort and organization to perfect(ok, not perfect) a system of rights, so that you don't get looted everyday. Your little shotgun is not going to stop a mob. Face it. Any succeeding civilization in mankind's history has had an organization or rulers/organizers. Regular citizens don't have the organization to do what the government does. Organization is what they do, and they do it better than most of the people who say the government should be thrown down.Shut it down! We'd all be better off!
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__Don_Line__ wrote:
I think he means temporarily.Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
The reason you can have an iPhone is because of the government... they put in the effort and organization to perfect(ok, not perfect) a system of rights, so that you don't get looted everyday. Your little shotgun is not going to stop a mob. Face it. Any succeeding civilization in mankind's history has had an organization or rulers/organizers. Regular citizens don't have the organization to do what the government does. Organization is what they do, and they do it better than most of the people who say the government should be thrown down.Shut it down! We'd all be better off!
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And let me say something else Mr. Line: The federal government has only 3 specific jobs.
1. Settle interstate commerce disputes.
2. Deal with international issues. (diplomacy, borders, wars)
3. Maintain a national army.
Everything else is fluff under "promote general welfare", or duties related to raising money to operate.
Which function brought you your iPhone? Which one holds back the mob?
Where do your rights come from? Not from the government. The constitution only says they will not trample them. It says nothing of a mob trampling them.
It seems like you need another semester of civics.
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Greece runs out of money, Portugal goes broke, Ireland joins the club. But rather than ask the world bank for a bailout, the US will reprioritize it's spending. Jim Dirt, if you want it shutdown, who will stop the Huns coming over the fence for your stuff.
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Iceberg_Slim wrote:
He might say the national guard, police, militia, and the armed citizens themselves.Greece runs out of money, Portugal goes broke, Ireland joins the club. But rather than ask the world bank for a bailout, the US will reprioritize it's spending. Jim Dirt, if you want it shutdown, who will stop the Huns coming over the fence for your stuff.
The federal government rarely gets involved with protecting my stuff. They mainly just take a chunk out of my paycheck, and insist that because I don't grow wheat in my backyard, I am affecting interstate commerce, and therefore may be regulated as they see fit.
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I work at the National Marine Fisheries Service. We research sea life and enforce fishing regulation in order to maintain stocks. That is squarely on regulating interstate commerce. Personally, I'm doing server work for them. I won't be sent home because I am "essential".
If I am exempt from the shutdown, you know that important functions will still be running, and lots of useless functions (like myself) as well.
This is just a political fight.
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Being essential doesn't mean we will get paid though, they could just still not pay us when it's all over with. If that happens I will be less than amused, "The Man" is really starting to piss me off with this "we're overpaid and no raises" bull shit.
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Brown🎵POTUS 👊🔨💀 wrote:
And by international issues, they mean protecting borders and hiring police to protect people, to stop terrorists from coming into our airspace and sending in 10 guys with bullets from killing large amounts of people. People aren't really that organized.And let me say something else Mr. Line: The federal government has only 3 specific jobs.
1. Settle interstate commerce disputes.
2. Deal with international issues. (diplomacy, borders, wars)
3. Maintain a national army.
Everything else is fluff under "promote general welfare", or duties related to raising money to operate.
Which function brought you your iPhone? Which one holds back the mob?
Where do your rights come from? Not from the government. The constitution only says they will not trample them. It says nothing of a mob trampling them.
It seems like you need another semester of civics.
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Brown🎵POTUS 👊🔨💀 wrote:
And everyone knows in political fights, nobody yields.I work at the National Marine Fisheries Service. We research sea life and enforce fishing regulation in order to maintain stocks. That is squarely on regulating interstate commerce. Personally, I'm doing server work for them. I won't be sent home because I am "essential".
If I am exempt from the shutdown, you know that important functions will still be running, and lots of useless functions (like myself) as well.
This is just a political fight.
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BlindLuck🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
Watch your mouth!!!!The liberals are being bitches again
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And you probably knew that the government runs the school organization, which I doubt normal citizens would be able to do due to organization problems. The government can be annoying sometimes, I admit, but I'll also admit that the government has helped us a lot, too.
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Brown🎵POTUS 👊🔨💀 wrote:
The reason I say you wouldn't have an iPhone is because that you would probably be dead, starving, poor, on the streets, etc. if not for the governments(and there probably wouldn't be any streets, either)And let me say something else Mr. Line: The federal government has only 3 specific jobs.
1. Settle interstate commerce disputes.
2. Deal with international issues. (diplomacy, borders, wars)
3. Maintain a national army.
Everything else is fluff under "promote general welfare", or duties related to raising money to operate.
Which function brought you your iPhone? Which one holds back the mob?
Where do your rights come from? Not from the government. The constitution only says they will not trample them. It says nothing of a mob trampling them.
It seems like you need another semester of civics.
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OneThumbBastard wrote:
You got a passport for their country(actually, maybe not), traveled and lived in there country, and then bought their goods and worked for their services. That's what. Life isn't fair.The Federal government is on the verge of shutting down for one simple reason: the folks we elected and sent to Washington DC to govern refuse to do so. Blame it on "the liberals" if you want, but these are the facts: the GOP controlled the leg. and exec. branches between 2001-2007 and fпcked up everything they touched. The economy, the wars, our borders, ours rights and freedoms, EVERYTHING! Now that they control the House and have the votes to filibuster any and all leg. in the Senate, they are hellbent on traveling back down that same road. Know this: you get the government you deserve (although I have no idea what I did to deserve these fools)👊❕👍
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Mr. Line,
The simple fact is, public schools and police have nothing to do with the federal government. You seem to want to ignore the fact that local, county, and state governments exist, and they have nothing to do with Washington, DC. These governments are more directly responsible for your safety and security than the federal government. They provide for military, police, education, roads and commerce.
The federal government is (supposed to be) just the receptionist. It's like the UN for the states.
Realize the difference.
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Iceberg_Slim wrote:
Come on. Use your brain. I mean shut it down just until the welfare recipients get hungry enough to go find a job or better still, start a business. You want an economic recovery? Imagine if every American was a producer and not a taker like over 50% are today. It can't keep going like this. The sooner we wake up the useless members of our society and shock them into getting their lazy butts in gear, the better.Greece runs out of money, Portugal goes broke, Ireland joins the club. But rather than ask the world bank for a bailout, the US will reprioritize it's spending. Jim Dirt, if you want it shutdown, who will stop the Huns coming over the fence for your stuff.
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It's happened before just like the NFL. They are all just being greedy, we need to find a standard paycheck dollar amount and move on.
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__Don_Line__ wrote:
Actually the shotgun will actually stop a mob... Shotguns Ef ppl upJim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
The reason you can have an iPhone is because of the government... they put in the effort and organization to perfect(ok, not perfect) a system of rights, so that you don't get looted everyday. Your little shotgun is not going to stop a mob. Face it. Any succeeding civilization in mankind's history has had an organization or rulers/organizers. Regular citizens don't have the organization to do what the government does. Organization is what they do, and they do it better than most of the people who say the government should be thrown down.Shut it down! We'd all be better off!
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ᎦᏝДᏌᏀ♓Ꭲ❸Ꭱ♓ᎾᏌᎦ❸ wrote:
Standard paycheck?!?! That's the last thing you want. Why Wouk you even ty to excel in your field if the dope sitting next to you is going to get paid the same as you for doing an inferior job?It's happened before just like the NFL. They are all just being greedy, we need to find a standard paycheck dollar amount and move on.
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Why is it called a shutdown if there will still be those basic services?
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!ZAZ wrote:
Cause they shut down all "non-essential" operations. If they are non-essential, why not just get rid of them instead of taxing us to death for them?Why is it called a shutdown if there will still be those basic services?
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
I don't know, maybe we needed some of them? Without welfare, wouldn't there be extreme poverty all over the country?!ZAZ wrote:
Cause they shut down all "non-essential" operations. If they are non-essential, why not just get rid of them instead of taxing us to death for them?Why is it called a shutdown if there will still be those basic services?
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!ZAZ wrote:
We didn't have welfare until recently. Used to that local organizations (churches etc) helped the poor. No one starved.Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
I don't know, maybe we needed some of them? Without welfare, wouldn't there be extreme poverty all over the country?!ZAZ wrote:
Cause they shut down all "non-essential" operations. If they are non-essential, why not just get rid of them instead of taxing us to death for them?Why is it called a shutdown if there will still be those basic services?
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
You know what I mean. Standard amount based on your skills. Geez.ᎦᏝДᏌᏀ♓Ꭲ❸Ꭱ♓ᎾᏌᎦ❸ wrote:
Standard paycheck?!?! That's the last thing you want. Why Wouk you even ty to excel in your field if the dope sitting next to you is going to get paid the same as you for doing an inferior job?It's happened before just like the NFL. They are all just being greedy, we need to find a standard paycheck dollar amount and move on.
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BlindLuck🔫🌊🗻 wrote:
2012 will be a terrible year for republicans if this continues.The liberals are being bitches again
Hey blind if I send you an iTunes card will you change your name, Blinddumbass🐔🐔🐔
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So what am I, a citizen, going to have to do? Renew my passport, lose my social security? Are my liscences void?
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ᎦᏝДᏌᏀ♓Ꭲ❸Ꭱ♓ᎾᏌᎦ❸ wrote:
That would eliminate competition in the workplace... We would all be categorized by IQ tests and experience charts. Maybe we could have our rank tattoo'd on our foreheads. Hmmm, you might be on to something. Something like crack.Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
You know what I mean. Standard amount based on your skills. Geez.ᎦᏝДᏌᏀ♓Ꭲ❸Ꭱ♓ᎾᏌᎦ❸ wrote:
Standard paycheck?!?! That's the last thing you want. Why Wouk you even ty to excel in your field if the dope sitting next to you is going to get paid the same as you for doing an inferior job?It's happened before just like the NFL. They are all just being greedy, we need to find a standard paycheck dollar amount and move on.
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