Somali pirates killed 4 Americans!!!
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Did anyone hear about the Somali pirates kidnapping the American yatch and killing the four people on it? U.S. Special Forces stormed the boat and killed two pirates and captured 13 of them.
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This is bullshit
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I heard 2 americans were killed...not the storming in part.
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!muttenhead🌇🌊3 wrote:
I've been to Somalia...fighting piracy...doesn't sound like bullshit to me...sounds about right. Happens all the time...maybe not to Americans. That's why you don't hear about it.This is bullshit
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It's also popular in the Indian Ocean. Lax enforcement and a policy of non-escalation just encourages it. Arm up commercial and private shipping to discourage the behavior, and the practice would fade away.
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New York times...it's legit...may be going back to Africa sooner then I thought...depends on how the us takes it. If they beef their presence so will we. I've been saying for years Africa is the part the world we should be doing stuff in. Forget the middle east...Africa is crazy.
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When we were escorting ships every now and again we'd leave a ship with "hired guns". You'd be surprised how little it takes to discourage these guys.
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Fifteen pirates were taken into custody – 13 aboard the yacht as well as the two who had been negotiating aboard the Sterett, Fox said. In addition, two pirates were killed in the operation, including one who was knifed by a member of the U.S. force, Fox said.
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There should have been no prisoners taken once they found the victims. There should only have been dead Somali's at the bottom of the ocean!
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Ο u 8 | 2 wrote:
There should have been no prisoners taken once they found the victims. There should only have been dead Somali's at the bottom of the ocean!
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BigBK wrote:
I heard somewhere, that at the moment, their are 30 odd ships, and 600+ crew being held.!muttenhead🌇🌊3 wrote:
I've been to Somalia...fighting piracy...doesn't sound like bullshit to me...sounds about right. Happens all the time...maybe not to Americans. That's why you don't hear about it.This is bullshit
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I must be a pirate cause I'm digging ou's booty ;)
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As bad as I feel for the Americans that killed, they should have checked with somebody before sailing out there, just like our CO gave us warnings about certain areas in Honduras. It wasn't long ago Somalians took over a cruise ship, and the Navy SEALS saved their asses.
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bazboffer wrote:
I don't know how accurate those numbers are. But ships get taken all the time.BigBK wrote:
I heard somewhere, that at the moment, their are 30 odd ships, and 600+ crew being held.!muttenhead🌇🌊3 wrote:
I've been to Somalia...fighting piracy...doesn't sound like bullshit to me...sounds about right. Happens all the time...maybe not to Americans. That's why you don't hear about it.This is bullshit
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Time to pull out the tommies & cap some! J/K.
It's very real in that part of the world. US$280Million a year is what pirates extort from private shipping firms.
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Well it would also help if somalia wasnt a giant safe haven for these pirates. That country is in anarchy.
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🔥🔥Blazen🔥Hot🔥🔥 wrote:
Sad thing is they knew what they were sailing into. They were with a bunch of other boats and decided to strike off on their ownAs bad as I feel for the Americans that killed, they should have checked with somebody before sailing out there, just like our CO gave us warnings about certain areas in Honduras. It wasn't long ago Somalians took over a cruise ship, and the Navy SEALS saved their asses.
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Okay here the story. There was a yatch and it
Was full of people. Also 4 USA missionaries, the navy followed them for 3 days but didn't try to board the shipbecause the pirates would kill someone. But as soon as te pirates killed someone the NAVY came one and started making pirates eat shit. Capped 2 captured the rest. The end. Oh and when you say "pirates" now days it's gangs with regular looking people who board the ship. No rope swinging and sword fights. GUNS. the end -
Trust me, jack sparrow they are not.
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They have tried taking two of my car carriers so far and failed twice. They can suck my balls. It's because of these wankers that goods shipped from the far east go up in price, because ship owners have to cover the cost of additional insurance premiums and bunkers fir running the ship at full speed.
With regards to this case, the yanks shouldn't get all high and mighty abt the situation, because these missionaries probably wouldn't have been killed if the navy seals didn't storm the last American tanker by force.
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IMO, the war ships near the coast of Somalia should light up every shitty little boat that looks like it may be thinking about committing acts of piracy. Somalia may be a safe haven for these ass clowns but the waters should be dead zones. Fishing trawlers obviously aren't gonna be trying to raid a tanker but the little skiffs, should just be target practice.
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But local fishermen fish on skiffs! If you want to end piracy you need to find out where they're gettingbtheir money for arms from and also where the ransome moeybis going? Most sources suggest the middle easy including Yemen and Iran
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Don Dennis wrote:
How many local fisherman have AKs and other easily identifiable weapons? Some people will be accidentally killed but the pirates have already killed numerous innocent people.But local fishermen fish on skiffs! If you want to end piracy you need to find out where they're gettingbtheir money for arms from and also where the ransome moeybis going? Most sources suggest the middle easy including Yemen and Iran
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Bugsy Seigel wrote:
That's pretty dumb to say. You know how many boats are out doing legit shit in those waters? Pirates look just like em. They're not stupid.IMO, the war ships near the coast of Somalia should light up every shitty little boat that looks like it may be thinking about committing acts of piracy. Somalia may be a safe haven for these ass clowns but the waters should be dead zones. Fishing trawlers obviously aren't gonna be trying to raid a tanker but the little skiffs, should just be target practice.
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BigBK wrote:
Correction. It isn't a dumb thing to say. It is a very not PC thing to say. It is by most standards a mean thing to say. What is dumb is allowing a few people to cause widespread economic damage and loss of life because they live like a bunch of wild fucking animals. The international community needs to pull off the kid gloves when dealing with piracy (same should be said for terrorism) and take their fight to them. All this "give them a trial" stuff is bullshit. What trial have any of those people that were killed by the pirates been given? If they choose to be a pirate they need to be ready to die for their actions.Bugsy Seigel wrote:
That's pretty dumb to say. You know how many boats are out doing legit shit in those waters? Pirates look just like em. They're not stupid.IMO, the war ships near the coast of Somalia should light up ...
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Bugsy Seigel wrote:
And how many pirates sail the seas waving ak47s in the air to make them easily identifiable as a pirate!? Just because pirates may have killed a few unfortunate people it doesn't mean that 'we' automatically gain a right to kill a few innocents ourselves. That's like the police knocking on your door saying "sorry, 'we' shot your dad cause he had the same hair colour a some one who just robbed a bank". Would you accept that a okay!?Don Dennis wrote:
How many local fisherman have AKs and other easily identifiable weapons? Some people will be accidentally killed but the pirates have already killed numerous innocent people.But local fishermen fish on skiffs! If you want to end piracy you need to find out where they're gettingbtheir money for arms from and also where the ransome moeybis going? Most sources suggest the middle easy including Yemen and Iran
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These guys carry AKs and RPGs. Those are easily identifiable. If they are waving them in the air or standing with weapons at the ready they are identifiable. And how many fisherman are going to be hauling ass through open waters in the wake of a tanker? These guys aren't just off the shore. They are venturing into international waters. I'd bet money that very few "innocents" are far enough out as the pirates go.
Robbing a bank isn't the same as hijacking NUMEROUS SHIPS EVERY YEAR FOR SEVERAL YEARS. These people are attacking ships. If another country did this to an Naval vessel for the UK or US, it would be an act of war. Why treat it otherwise?
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"Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans." -Gabriel in Swordfish (2001)
Why not fight these pirates like this? This isn't just about Americans. The pirates aren't targeting any one nationality. If everyone hits this ass clowns hard as hell, They may get the picture that hijacking ships isn't such a good career.
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Make up your mind bugsy. Earlier you said the navy should hit anything off the shore of Somalia, now your saying anything in the wake of a vessel?
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I agree with increasing a naval presence there...we've had what we can spare there since 08. My ship was the first ship to arrive under the current operation. We were on out way to the sunny mediterranian when we were re directed to the gulf of Aden. We were relieved by the Dutch then the Americans showed up. We may not agree with the gov't in the middle east but they had one. Most African countries, Somalia most prevalent, are in shambles in terms of gov't (and other things). I def agree we should do more. What I said was dumb was your plan to take out everyone in those waters. Cause it is a silly plan. It is easy to spot the pirates if they're in the process of chasing down a vessel. But it's a big ocean man. If NATO got all countries to send some ships we could deter them. There's no money in a fighting a warship. They can't win. They know that.
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Unlike terrorism, priacy is ALL about money. They normally run as soon as they smell a warship. These pirates fucked up, that's why people died.
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