Healthcare reform gotta go!
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So, I recently graduated from college with a 4yr degree in Nursing....And there are no jobs for us. Thank you very much to the current regime for the new changes to the health care laws. As a result, you have given some people more health care coverage (most of whom just need to get off of their ass and quit having fucking kids) but on the flip side of that coin you have made it near impossible for new graduate nurses to get a job. This difficulty finding a job is compounded by the fact that I am, according to some "over-qualified" for other jobs. So as we say in the military BOHECA. I got the Big Green Weenie. Thanks you fuck wads in Washington. 'preciate it. Please repeal this craptastic excuse for legislature!!!!
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Strange. Three of my family members are nurses & they all complain that there are not enough credentialed nurses out there to hire... Maybe it's regional.
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It's the hospitals trying to save money. Training a new grad requires paying 2 nurses for a couple months that do the work of 1 nurse. Its everywhere. There aren't enough experienced nurses is what the problem is.
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Same here in Northeast Pa. They are crying for help and getting breaks on school loans.
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Bugsy, one of the sticking points in one of our hospital nurses union negotiations right now is mandatory overtime and the state is working to ban or limit it. Though the republicans are in power now and are anti-union so it probably won't come to pass.
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Ya know free health care ain't that bad I mean up here in Canada. My little guy has cancer hes 2 now but only because no ones is worried about getting paid instead they're worried about him and I don't have to pay a dingle thing even though one of the drugs is 250$ each dose I don't pay. Trade off so I pay taxes a little higher. Maybe you should travel to another country and practice their and get some xp Australia, Canada, UK,
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Squished, your entering into a debate your not truly prepared for. Both political parties filled the minds of mainstream America with mistruths and gross exaggerations in an attempt to sway them to their side of the national debate. Anybody who has had experience with the systems such as yourself views those programs like we in America do our Social Security system, if not even more cherished. Unfortunately, coming out of WWII, American public perception and memory defined itself as an anti-communist/socialist nation, which allowed no room for a social safety that Western Europe and yourselfs instituted. Those socialist fears, augmented by our creation through a tax rebellion and fear and mistrust of government because of that same rebellion and novel political system of the time, has separated our political views in those small instances from our fellow western European civilization.
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In a sense, the micro culture that is America does not understand how the macro Western culture views our lack of a safety net as barbaric.
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I forgot to mention our Puritan heritage as well, forgive me.
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Doc Xray wrote:
Same thing here. A big part of my family are RNs.Strange. Three of my family members are nurses & they all complain that there are not enough credentialed nurses out there to hire... Maybe it's regional.
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JayDee wrote:
Doc Xray wrote:
Same thing here. A big part of my family are RNs.Strange. Three of my family members are nurses & they all complain that there are not enough credentialed nurses out there to hire... Maybe it's regional.
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@Rckningday Well said sir.
@Bugsy Join the club. All kinds of highly educated, hard working people are out of work now. You'll find work. You may end up having to move to do so. Florida might be nice. Perhaps, Arizona? Plenty of Conservatives here. My state has some of the highest unemployment rates and most devastating home losses and because of our impotent leadership we will be facing further home losses this year. With a bonus! We have cut ACCESS coverage for those lazy mentally ill and disabled individiuals because they don't work hard enough in their minimum wage job. Plenty of crime here too and corruption of the offices of our Sherrif Joe Arpaio so you know you are in a big city with so much diversity we try to drive people away.
I would look for places with high concentrations of our elders. Plenty of death will be great for business.Just hang in there. Good luck.
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Sorry for my obnoxious comment. It sucks to live here in this sad state.
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By the way, the health care law does not kick in until 2014. Oh, and the people it helps now? Children.
This law will end up keeping you in business and will make money for you. The cut backs you are experiencing now are caused by the global debt and pressure that were caused by deregulation ten years ago. The unfortunate results of Milton Friedman going AWOL against the better interest of the people. Blah, blah, blah. 😖
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I talked to Bugsy last night and gave him some info of the elderly majority in my metro area. He was very appreciative.
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It works for us Brits
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Mr. Ikslopot wrote:
By the way, the health care law does not kick in until 2014. Oh, and the people it helps now? Children.
This law will end up keeping you in business and will make money for you. The cut backs you are experiencing now are caused by the global debt and pressure that were caused by deregulation ten years ago. The unfortunate results of Milton Friedman going AWOL against the better interest of the people. Blah, blah, blah. 😖
But wait, this has to be obamas fault somehow.
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Mr. Ikslopot wrote:
There are portions of the bill that are already kicking in. The Medicare and Medicaid portions are kicking in this year.By the way, the health care law does not kick in until 2014. Oh, and the people it helps now? Children.
This law will end up keeping you in business and will make money for you. The cut backs you are experiencing now are caused by the global debt and pressure that were caused by deregulation ten years ago. The unfortunate results of Milton Friedman going AWOL against the better interest of the people. Blah, blah, blah. 😖
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I respect your opinion Punchy but you are failing to take into account why we did not turn to a national health care model in the immediate years after World War II. Why did we not adopt it in the 60's or 70's when it was debated? What ideology lay behind those decisions? What rhetorical tactics were used to defeat it then? Whether the public is aware of it or not is irrelevant, but our micro culture is made up of a unique ideology that hearkens back to the very origins of our nation and mandates that we view the role of government in our lives through that cultural lens.
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In the end Punchy, we are arguing two separate things with the same end in result in mind.
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Because of SoonerCare in OK, I don't have to pay the million dollars in medical expenses that my daughter racked up in the first six weeks of her life because her esophagus didn't start forming correctly two weeks after conception. She was mediflighted, operated on by one of the top neonatal surgeons in the country, and lived in the NICU for six weeks, where she was monitored by a nurse in her room 24/7, as well as three surgeons-in-training, a nutritionist, a respiratory therapist and a neurologist, who all saw her at least twice a day. Don't f-ing tell me that healthcare reform has to go!! There will always be moochers, but there will always be more people who actually need to see a doctor or two and can't. Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the lack of suggestions coming from the lack-of-compassion, self-righteous rightwing tea baggers
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bee ryan wrote:
I am so thankful for your daughter! She will be in my prayers.🙏Because of SoonerCare in OK, I don't have to pay the million dollars in medical expenses that my daughter racked up in the first six weeks of her life because her esophagus didn't start forming correctly two weeks after conception. She was mediflighted, operated on by one of the top neonatal surgeons in the country, and lived in the NICU for six weeks, where she was monitored by a nurse in her room 24/7, as well as three surgeons-in-training, a nutritionist, a respiratory therapist and a neurologist, who all saw her at least twice a day. Don't f-ing tell me that healthcare reform has to go!! There will always be moochers, but there will always be more people who actually need to see a doctor or two and can't. Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than the lack of suggestions coming from the lack-of-compassion, self-righteous rightwing tea baggers
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it sucks that your daughter was born sick. The problem with this whole thing is that people don't understand the idea of an EMERGENCY. They show up at an ER and if you ask them who their doctor is, most will say something to the effect that the ER MD is their doctor. It is only going to get worse. I can promise you this. General Practice MDs will just see fewer patients when the cuts start hitting them and do all they can to avoid patients without supplemental insurance. This will cause people with only Medicade/Medicare to say the ER is their doctor. So then you cut your finger and now it takes 6 hrs to get seen for this on a slow day. This is not the system that is going to fix our medical care. If we are going to start correcting this crap, a good place to start is to hit the Pharmaceutical companies that are marking up their drugs hundreds of percent over cost. Why did the administration cut them a deal or whatever and not include them in the legislation?
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Because he needed them to drop their prices for the government when they close the Medicare donut hole. That is a common knowledge deal that was cut.
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Not really, Pharmecutical companies have the right to charge exuberant rates, some pills are quite sophisticated and are foreign made, I bought some Antibiotic and it was made in Israel. The problem with Medicare is that you can't just not accept them. In my fathers hospital, they need to accept a certain number of them because of PR with the local community, if they don't, they are sued for racism
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@mr ikslopot, my daughter turned two on Thursday, and she had a full recovery, so we are out of that situation, but my wife and I both remember that the medical situation was stressful enough w/out having to worry about the money. Like I said, I know it's not perfect, but we've got to do something. Get rid of expensive malpractice insurance, get rid of dumb judges who hand out ridiculous punitive damages in malpractice suits, get rid of pharmaceutical companies, idk what or how, but the focus should be helping the patient, not picking their pockets clean
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!ZAZ wrote:
Are you kidding me? They have the "right"? What right? Where does it say they have a right? And then they put a cap on how MUCH coverage you get? Two million dollars night sound like a lot, until of course you consider my neighbor, a child with Down's syndrome and leukemia. it's been a year and a half of hard fought battles. Her insurance ran out in a mere three months.Not really, Pharmecutical companies have the right to charge exuberant rates, some pills are quite sophisticated and are foreign made, I bought some Antibiotic and it was made in Israel. The problem with Medicare is that you can't just not accept them. In my fathers hospital, they need to accept a certain number of them because of PR with the local community, if they don't, they are sued for racism
Those rich greedy bastards don't care. To them, it's between a human life and another fucking lamborghini. And m -
Most of the time, they choose the damn Lamborghini.
Obamas system might not be perfect. But I know for a fact that mediCal kept my neighbor alive when the insurance companies booked it and cut their losses. -
Your correct, pricing on medication and pricing on private insurance is rediculously high...you dont think those upper-classmen won't find a way to take care of themselves one way or another. Don't forget, there's still a teeny tiny little shrinking class called the middle class, and all of this effects us the most... Obamacare or not, we either pay large amounts in Premiums in insurance or large amounts of taxes to support those on Medicaid.0
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And the "right" is capitalisim
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punchyclockface wrote:
Heh - you got it. American ingenuity today amounts to figuring out the best way to skim.The one thing I've never understood about the American for-profit health insurance industry is this: Where does the profit come from and how is it not regarded by the public as unethical? They aren't actually treating the sick and dying, but rather skimming off of the transaction between the caregivers and the patient. Their only innovations have been in that area, skimming. If their sole function is to pool risk, why shouldn't we the people be allowed to pool that risk like we always have in so many other areas of public life?
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