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El Chappie wrote:
So NATO border cant get closer to Russia, but Russia can claim other countries (killing millions) and get closer to NATO borders? BTW Ex-USSR are not Russia owned. They hate you. You cant tell them what they can or cannot do.This bullshit in Ukraine doesnโt make sence. Europe should have listend to their own proposal. the NATO border cannot come closer to Russia. And old USSR members cannot become member of NATO. Look what they do now. Europe is the problem, not Russia
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YOU wrote:
Also europe didnt attack, Russia didEl Chappie wrote:
So NATO border cant get closer to Russia, but Russia can claim other countries (killing millions) and get closer to NATO borders? BTW Ex-USSR are not Russia owned. They hate you. You cant tell them what they can or cannot do.This bullshit in Ukraine doesnโt make sence. Europe should have listend to their own proposal. the NATO border cannot come closer to Russia. And old USSR members cannot become member of NATO. Look what they do now. Europe is the problem, not Russia
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โ๊ฉเบฃเฝั wrote:
nobody wanted to be part of the USSR to begin with, red army just โforgotโ to leave the countries it โliberatedโ after WW2 and the west wasnโt going to fight WW3 over it.El Chappie wrote:
So NATO border cant get closer to Russia, but Russia can claim other countries (killing millions) and get closer to NATO borders? BTW Ex-USSR are not Russia owned. They hate you. You cant tell them what they can or cannot do.This bullshit in Ukraine doesnโt make sence. Europe should have listend to their own proposal. the NATO border cannot come closer to Russia. And old USSR members cannot become member of NATO. Look what they do now. Europe is the problem, not Russia
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watching the russian fleet founder was hilarious however, fuck them they wonโt ever have the ressources to rebuild it
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Just saying, When the USSR fell, countries like the baltic ones, but also countries like Ukraine and Georgia. They agreed on never joining the western companionships. And nowaday. They all betrayed their good old aliey. And the problem there is. For example in Ukraine. In the states of luhansk an Donetsk. Still a lot of Russian families live their. He just asks Ukraine to give up those areas to give the people to Russia. Bc again, thatโs where they want to belong to. And Ukraine did not agree on giving up that land. And they think Ukraine government is dangerous for their people. Due to coruption and rasism due to their nationality. But Ukraine is holding up those areaโs. So the last thing they can do is go get their own people, unfortunally, by military force. Which again, was not needed if Ukraine just agreed on a referendum. And now the west is afraid for Russia. But Russia should be our biggest aliey. Instead of China. Here in Western Europe. We could develop as fast as China is doing. But no, we make war
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And it is not true that they attack everyone who is comming closer. Bc the baltic states are also member of Nato. Only difference. There are NO russians living there which want to be part of Russia. So Russia just let those areas go. But Ukraine, and also in Georgia. Those are stories with russian people living abroad in a old USSR state. So those people where born in the soviet union. And since people cannot draw new borders as they should be. These areas are now in former USSR states. And the people living there. Are no way able to fix it themselves. They need a government that helps them. So the Russian government does. It is probably one of the last surviving countries with a bit of self love and hope
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Self love and hope ๐
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Well, you can say whatever you want. But Russia is one of the last countries without any woman getting raped on the streets. LGBTQ is forbidden and these people are ill by law and send to prison for the treat of being dangerous for kids. And the street of Moscow are clean. Europe can learn of that. Instead of letting in all this immigrants. Russia is Russian. Europe is everything combined. And research has shown. That mixing religions and entities is dangerous for everyone. Bc it leads towards all kinds of violence. Everyone should have big respect for Russia. And we should be all friends with them ๐ท๐บโฆ๏ธ
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Iโm curious, bc of this discussion. Who are you supporting in the conflict between Israel and Palastine? ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ต๐ธ
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Is that your justification for a dictator invading an independent, sovereign nation?
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It is not a dictator, it is a person who is running his country with pure nationalism and love for his people instead of a dictator who only cares about money. For Putin it doesnโt matter how much it takes. Not money nor effort. He will be there to defend you if your roots are Russian. And that should be seen as something pretty. Not agressive. Just compare it with you father. He will do everything to defend you. Even if it will get him in dept or a fight. He will probably even suffer for you. Well, that is a real hero, not an agressor
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เผบ แชแฐแช เผป wrote:
So again, what side are you supporting in the war in the middle east? Israel or Palestine? ๐ต๐ธ๐ฎ๐ฑIs that your justification for a dictator invading an independent, sovereign nation?
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โ wrote:
watching the russian fleet founder was hilarious however, fuck them they wonโt ever have the ressources to rebuild it
There is no such country that has as many ressources as Russia has. Russia has everything even to rebuild a whole continent.
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โ๊ฉเบฃเฝั wrote:
El Chappie wrote:
So NATO border cant get closer to Russia, but Russia can claim other countries (killing millions) and get closer to NATO borders? BTW Ex-USSR are not Russia owned. They hate you. You cant tell them what they can or cannot do.This bullshit in Ukraine doesnโt make sence. Europe should have listend to their own proposal. the NATO border cannot come closer to Russia. And old USSR members cannot become member of NATO. Look what they do now. Europe is the problem, not Russia
My comrade, just to be clear, iโm not Russian. So you can leave (they hate you) bc iโm not one of them. But, that is true, well, half of it is. Bc moet of the Ex-USSR countries donโt want to reunited with Russia. But parts of the civilians WANT TO. Western minds work so stupid. You always talk about, โit should be a choice of the civiliansโ and now that happend. And you donโt agree with itโฆ
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Youโre disillusioned views are on a whole other level of brainwashed ๐๐คฃ
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เผบ แชแฐแช เผป wrote:
Well, you are the one still thinking that Ukraine is going to be saved. But we all know Russia will (deserved) get itโs teritory back without getting sued ๐คฉ๐ท๐บ. And no other option should be fair โ . Even the US and China will agree. ๐บ๐ธ๐จ๐ณ๐ซฑ๐ปโ๐ซฒ๐ผ๐ท๐บYouโre disillusioned views are on a whole other level of brainwashed ๐๐คฃ
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เผบ แชแฐแช เผป wrote:
But keep dreaming about a great Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ๐คYouโre disillusioned views are on a whole other level of brainwashed ๐๐คฃ
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เผบ แชแฐแช เผป wrote:
itโs crazy the state sponsored vodka does damage๐คฃYouโre disillusioned views are on a whole other level of brainwashed ๐๐คฃ
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Well, you guys are the perfect example of the left. You cannot argue or discuss a problem without violence. You attack me because of a different opinion we have about a topic. Without anwsering my question. Just like what happend to Carlie Kirk. He wants to discuss and make something clear. And they assesionated him because his look on the world was different. You act the same. โWe are right, so we beat himโ very childish ๐คฉ
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It doesnโt matter, lets hope for the best and let the real leaders make a proposal. Weโll see who is right, and weโll see who will win at the end of it. I think we all know the anwser! Russia will get itโs teritory back and no one will take about Ukraine anymore ๐คฉ๐จ๐ณ๐ซฑ๐ปโ๐ซฒ๐ผ๐ท๐บ๐ซฑ๐ปโ๐ซฒ๐ผ๐บ๐ธ
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Itโs not opinion, itโs facts. Ukraine gave up nukes in exchange for territorial security with russia. Russia canโt keep itโs fucking word, and invaded Ukraine. Ukraine should have kept the nukes and torched Russia
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Nato is a self defense organisation, why is Russia so threatened by a self defense organisation? Because then they canโt invade them? Make it make sense
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Supporting Russia invading a sovereign nation is not very cash money of you el chappie
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Rอฃeอฉeอฉferjuana wrote:
Supporting Russia invading a sovereign nation is not very cash money of you el chappie
Well, Ukraine would be a sovereign country if itโs teritory would be only states with Ukrainian citizents. Which it is not, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk and Zaporizja. Should have never become part of a different country but Russia..
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โ wrote:
Well, if it is only selfdefense. Why is NATO putting billions of dollars in a country which is not even member of NATO?๐Nato is a self defense organisation, why is Russia so threatened by a self defense organisation? Because then they canโt invade them? Make it make sense
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๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โ wrote:
They did not gave up nukes, they returned them to the real owner. If Iโd find you wallet in my backyard but you still live next door. I would give it back to you๐ซฑ๐ปโ๐ซฒ๐ผ. Seems pretty fair right?Itโs not opinion, itโs facts. Ukraine gave up nukes in exchange for territorial security with russia. Russia canโt keep itโs fucking word, and invaded Ukraine. Ukraine should have kept the nukes and torched Russia
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I also donโt understand why everyone is so scared for Russia to invade the Baltic states. Believe me, Russia will never invade those countries. Those countries are not like Russia. And they donโt owe Russia nothing. So all this news and border propaganda is bullshit. ๐ฑ๐น๐ฑ๐ป๐ช๐ช๐ซฑ๐ปโ๐ซฒ๐ผ๐ท๐บ
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Uhh, it's kind of a bipartisan agreement between the right and the left that the rebuilding of the oppressive and communist state and territories of the USSR is wildly idiotic.
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๐ ๐ฏ๐๐กโฆ๏ธ๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ฏ๐ฌ๐จ๐ข๐ซ wrote:
It is, but unfortunately neededUhh, it's kind of a bipartisan agreement between the right and the left that the rebuilding of the oppressive and communist state and territories of the USSR is wildly idiotic.
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El Chappie wrote:
Youโve confused me even more. So you are in support of the Communist state of the USSR?๐ ๐ฏ๐๐กโฆ๏ธ๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ฏ๐ฌ๐จ๐ข๐ซ wrote:
It is, but unfortunately neededUhh, it's kind of a bipartisan agreement between the right and the left that the rebuilding of the oppressive and communist state and territories of the USSR is wildly idiotic.
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