The purpose of an alliance.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Mcdonalds is an American flagship corporation...ripd wrote:
N Korea and Mc Donalds?I'm just trying to make a point of alliance sovereignty across. You dont see north Korea with mcdonalds in there( lol probably worst example). Ultimately Im saying that every alliance seems to "scared" of a war. Well why not? Claim something for yourself instead of being a noob training facility
WTF?
Since when is mcdonalds a sovereign nation?
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ripd wrote:
That's like saying the US government doesn't have control over it's territory if there are some Canadian citizens within it's borders.Σмקεгφг ќ wrote:
Well then. You might have the most power in that region but you don't control it if CEM is there making its own decisions.ripd wrote:
Yes. Yes we doChainsawCharlie wrote:
Do you have any CEM members in your areas of control? Like ANY?Maybe the goals of the alliances you are looking at is not power. Therefore, you see no wars between them.
Desert Rain is currently not at war simply because we have the areas we claim under control. No one is posing a threat to us, so we do not need to be at war.
A big part of alliances is location. You have to have members close enough to help each other.
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Part of the reason you and so many big vets are so bored is because nothing ever happens. I figured the best way to change this is to have a very different alliance pop up. Everyone here can can pretty much say the combat is really the funnest part of this game. So why not focus on that a little more on that other then making these new player training facility alliances.
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ripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Sad thing is they have more differences in their pizza that alliances do in their actionsripd wrote:
Well yes charlie, if your all the same i see no point. I guess im mistaken on what an alliance means. Kind of dissappointing. But, I respect your stand point.
apparently you are mistaken. An alliance is nothing more than a group of individuals who share a common goal.
So what if they are all the same? What's your point? Should we merge Pizza Hut, Dominoes, Papa Johns, etc into just one big pizza joint?
Or do we let them compete, each providing something just a little bit different, but mostly the same.
Well what do you want? If you want a totally different alliance, start one.
Come to the Southwest US and try to take over with it.
Then you can have your alliance war.
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ripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Mcdonalds is an American flagship corporation...ripd wrote:
N Korea and Mc Donalds?I'm just trying to make a point of alliance sovereignty across. You dont see north Korea with mcdonalds in there( lol probably worst example). Ultimately Im saying that every alliance seems to "scared" of a war. Well why not? Claim something for yourself instead of being a noob training facility
WTF?
Since when is mcdonalds a sovereign nation?
And N kore is an independent sovereign nation. Apples. Oranges.
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That's like saying the US government doesn't have control over it's territory if there are some Canadian citizens within it's borders.
A big part of alliances is location. You have to have members close enough to help each other.
Canadian citizens answer to the american government when they are in America. CEM still applies policies and their members abide by it. Canadian citizens in america do not follow Canadian rules, they follow American rules. But yeah it was a basis for an argument anyway. -
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Both fruit? :pripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Mcdonalds is an American flagship corporation...ripd wrote:
N Korea and Mc Donalds?I'm just trying to make a point of alliance sovereignty across. You dont see north Korea with mcdonalds in there( lol probably worst example). Ultimately Im saying that every alliance seems to "scared" of a war. Well why not? Claim something for yourself instead of being a noob training facility
WTF?
Since when is mcdonalds a sovereign nation?
And N kore is an independent sovereign nation. Apples. Oranges.
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In the end Charlie that probably isn't a bad idea. However Im not on enough to run an alliance. And the locals here would rip me to shreds as they are all ANTI-ALLIANCE. Well, maybe not, but they for sure would not let me with 4k mob run it anyway.
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ripd wrote:
Really? The majority of GC3 were very like-minded, IMO, BAIC - we differ in age, but similar personalities. Massholes, similar ages and personalities. I think of CEM as the "teen alliance", plus some newer recruits. Mademen - forum trollers, youngins, one of the groups that trigger the Lollipop Guild song to play in my head. CMS - similar age range and personalities, lots of Christian guys, too, it seems.BellaItaliana wrote:
I can see age and similar personalities being a factor. However the only clan that seems to abide by this is Desert Rain and their a couple days old. CEM is a total mess of random players, as are most alliancesOh, and age.
ECS or EC3 or whoever they are these days seems to be the most diverse, IMO. But that could also be because they recruited 50% of the Eastern Seaboard.
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ripd wrote:
Part of the reason you and so many big vets are so bored is because nothing ever happens. I figured the best way to change this is to have a very different alliance pop up. Everyone here can can pretty much say the combat is really the funnest part of this game. So why not focus on that a little more on that other then making these new player training facility alliances.
Well in all honesty, I DID lay claim to three entire states and was answered with NO resistance.
Maybe if I get enough maps, I'll hop to Alberta.
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Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
NOW were talking :)ripd wrote:
Part of the reason you and so many big vets are so bored is because nothing ever happens. I figured the best way to change this is to have a very different alliance pop up. Everyone here can can pretty much say the combat is really the funnest part of this game. So why not focus on that a little more on that other then making these new player training facility alliances.
Well in all honesty, I DID lay claim to three entire states and was answered with NO resistance.
Maybe if I get enough maps, I'll hop to Alberta.
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ripd wrote:
That's like saying the US government doesn't have control over it's territory if there are some Canadian citizens within it's borders.
A big part of alliances is location. You have to have members close enough to help each other.
Canadian citizens answer to the american government when they are in America. CEM still applies policies and their members abide by it. Canadian citizens in america do not follow Canadian rules, they follow American rules. But yeah it was a basis for an argument anyway.CEM is free to operate under their own policies so long as they aren't acting in a way detrimental to the policies of DR.
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ripd wrote:
One thing I can state categorically is that the main two alliances in the UK are certainly not afraid of war . A constant state has existed for months !! A 1000 attacks in a day is considered a ceasefire . Anyone even slightly timid would have had a breakdown by nowI'm just trying to make a point of alliance sovereignty across. You dont see north Korea with mcdonalds in there( lol probably worst example). Ultimately Im saying that every alliance seems to "scared" of a war. Well why not? Claim something for yourself instead of being a noob training facility
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ripd wrote:
Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
Just because you have a big mob doesn't mean you will be accepted or invited into Desert Rain.
You must meet our philosophic agenda as well. In fact, that is number one. You don't meet that, we don't care what your stats are.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Many growing alliance disregard this though. Yours might be the exception but I was just offered to join EC3 and CEM regardless of my philosophies.ripd wrote:
Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
Just because you have a big mob doesn't mean you will be accepted or invited into Desert Rain.
You must meet our philosophic agenda as well. In fact, that is number one. You don't meet that, we don't care what your stats are.
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ripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Many growing alliance disregard this though. Yours might be the exception but I was just offered to join EC3 and CEM regardless of my philosophies.ripd wrote:
Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
Just because you have a big mob doesn't mean you will be accepted or invited into Desert Rain.
You must meet our philosophic agenda as well. In fact, that is number one. You don't meet that, we don't care what your stats are.
Well there you go. now you know what sets DR apart from the rest of the crowd.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
DR is to new. To early for me to tell.ripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Many growing alliance disregard this though. Yours might be the exception but I was just offered to join EC3 and CEM regardless of my philosophies.ripd wrote:
Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
Just because you have a big mob doesn't mean you will be accepted or invited into Desert Rain.
You must meet our philosophic agenda as well. In fact, that is number one. You don't meet that, we don't care what your stats are.
Well there you go. now you know what sets DR apart from the rest of the crowd.
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ripd wrote:
That wasn't the case for GC3. As Charlie said it's not the case for DR. While I'm not positive about the other older alliances, I would say the only ones it does seem to be case for are CEM & Mademen. Personally, I would never join an alliance where the only requirement was mob size.Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
Perhaps you are arguing against alliances because you said your area was anti-alliance & they'd never let you run one? Maybe it's yourself you are trying to convince?
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No I'm not anti alliance. But from what I'm seeing, no alliance is willing to take any action. What I'm seeing is alliances are gigantic noob shelters. I'm saying that we should encourage more wars to give alliances some purpose other than being giant noob shelters. Because quite frankly, and I think a lot of people will agree with this, it's boring when everyone is afraid to fight.
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It's not a noob shelter, only time we step in is when a noob is being capped , or built over completey and is unable to grow, that's how inactive players have become so many. We all like to fight but if you don't alow newer or smaller players there will be no one to fight with later.
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Mr.Marbles wrote:
I'm not singleing out alliances here. But you don't do any other fighting. That's because everyone ELSE Is to scared because the majority of alliances ARE noob shelters.It's not a noob shelter, only time we step in is when a noob is being capped , or built over completey and is unable to grow, that's how inactive players have become so many. We all like to fight but if you don't alow newer or smaller players there will be no one to fight with later.
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ripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
DR is to new. To early for me to tell.ripd wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Many growing alliance disregard this though. Yours might be the exception but I was just offered to join EC3 and CEM regardless of my philosophies.ripd wrote:
Lol most recruitment factors for these alliances have nothing to do with personality. Anybody can join if they meet mob requirements... It can kind of dilute a major personality type in a large alliance.
Just because you have a big mob doesn't mean you will be accepted or invited into Desert Rain.
You must meet our philosophic agenda as well. In fact, that is number one. You don't meet that, we don't care what your stats are.
Well there you go. now you know what sets DR apart from the rest of the crowd.
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This is starting to remind me of the time HydroChaz begged for war to come to Vegas.
As I recall, that didn't end to well for him.
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ripd wrote:
We need something to take action against.No I'm not anti alliance. But from what I'm seeing, no alliance is willing to take any action. What I'm seeing is alliances are gigantic noob shelters. I'm saying that we should encourage more wars to give alliances some purpose other than being giant noob shelters. Because quite frankly, and I think a lot of people will agree with this, it's boring when everyone is afraid to fight.
As a player, I fight and cap turf daily. i'm attacked and capped daily.
Nothing I've experienced yet warrants war.
Now, when you get to the level of Alliance, it changes things. IMO, an alliance needs more of a reason to act than an individual player does. Alliances take on a whole different set of responsibilities.
We're not going to go to war with an alliance just because they are an alliance. We want a reason.
As an individual player though, I will cap turf "just because it's there".
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And alliances never go to war? What about the month long cms versus gc3 ec3 war?How about baic involvement with CA versus gc3?
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Mr.Marbles wrote:
It's not a noob shelter, only time we step in is when a noob is being capped , or built over completey and is unable to grow, that's how inactive players have become so many. We all like to fight but if you don't alow newer or smaller players there will be no one to fight with later.
Very well said.
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ripd wrote:
Were you around for the war between cms and gc3 and ecs or how about cms and psi those were big wars between alliances. Those were time when big alliances took action.No I'm not anti alliance. But from what I'm seeing, no alliance is willing to take any action. What I'm seeing is alliances are gigantic noob shelters. I'm saying that we should encourage more wars to give alliances some purpose other than being giant noob shelters. Because quite frankly, and I think a lot of people will agree with this, it's boring when everyone is afraid to fight.
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Belial wrote:
How about how everybody whines that it's too boring? I'm not saying go to war for no reason, but if everybody shares the same policies, then you will never get a war. I only brought up alliances because it's very possible to have one with very different policies than the rest, and yet it's not happening. It's to risky to try. 2 very different policies with 2 very different alliances That start to cross into eachothers "controlled" regions increases the chance of wars. And belial, now that those wars are over people are bored. The wars were fun from what I hear, and now their gone.And alliances never go to war? What about the month long cms versus gc3 ec3 war?How about baic involvement with CA versus gc3?
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Tom Servo 👊🔨💀 wrote:
Yeah I was, and now their gone. I'm talking about now. It's pretty rare that something like that even happened. And it started over stupid reasons. That will unlikely happen again.ripd wrote:
Were you around for the war between cms and gc3 and ecs or how about cms and psi those were big wars between alliances. Those were time when big alliances took action.No I'm not anti alliance. But from what I'm seeing, no alliance is willing to take any action. What I'm seeing is alliances are gigantic noob shelters. I'm saying that we should encourage more wars to give alliances some purpose other than being giant noob shelters. Because quite frankly, and I think a lot of people will agree with this, it's boring when everyone is afraid to fight.
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