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Good points brown note. I think it's easy to understand how people develop this fear from seeing it happen on the news all the time. Statistically, it's very unlikely to happen to you. However if you see something occur over and over again with the same amount of news hype, you start to develop a fear simply from the commonality of it.
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I dont understand the fear of non existence on a personal or global scale. Given the vastness of space, time, the number of extinction level events that can happen, and human nature i would think the probability of us snuffed out without notice is high. On the cosmic scale we are insignificant. There was a time i did not exist and that time will come again. I hope to contribute in a positive way to the world and universe around me. That energy will ripple through time and hopefully go future than just our local star system. That is beyond my control so i focus on what i can control.
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Existentialism ultimately demands three fundamental questions: "1) Why am I here? 2) Where am I going? 3) What's the point?." We could spend countless hours on hypothetical banter, but let's refrain. I'm a Christian, so existentialism is intertwined with the absolute standard/anchor of Scripture. Contemporary existentialism lacks objectivity and purpose and sways wherever the wind blows.
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Not that i want to die, just dont fear it. i'd enjoy time travel or some way to preserve myself and wake up hundreds if not thousands of years later. I would do it in a second.
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Charm City LLC. wrote:
These questions are as non-sensical as "What does the square root of 82 smell like?"Existentialism ultimately demands three fundamental questions: "1) Why am I here? 2) Where am I going? 3) What's the point?." We could spend countless hours on hypothetical banter, but let's refrain. I'm a Christian, so existentialism is intertwined with the absolute standard/anchor of Scripture. Contemporary existentialism lacks objectivity and purpose and sways wherever the wind blows.
When humanity asks these non-sensical questions, people come around and provide non-sensical answers like religion.
An existential crisis is what happens when you realize these questions are ridiculous.
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀ☠༻ wrote:
Yo mamma be hypothetical.★★BЯOШИИOTΞ★★ wrote:
You realize this is a hypothetical post rightThese fears are not rational from a statistical perspective.
According to the CDC, 142 kids between 5 and 14 years old were killed in 2013 with firearms in the U.S.
Out of roughly 36,000,000 American kids in this age group, the odds are .00000394.
The kid is literally ten times more likely to die in a random accident, and even that is rare.
If you worry about the extremely unlikely event that a child will be shot, or kidnapped, or struck down in a terrorist attack, you will live a very fearful life and negatively effect the emotional health of the entire family.
The news is entirely misleading. That's really all there is to it.
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Here lies the fundamental difference between our entire worldview systems of thought. According to the Christian worldview, truth is absolute and inherently objective. From your stance (the postmodern perspective), however, truth is relative ultimately lacking all merit. I'm not trying to convert you, I'm simply making a point that the Christian worldview has the ability to ask questions because truth is absolute and fundamental.
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Charm City LLC. wrote:
So slavery, rape, polygamy, peadophilia, and incest are absolutely immoral? Or were they just moral back in "biblical times"?Here lies the fundamental difference between our entire worldview systems of thought. According to the Christian worldview, truth is absolute and inherently objective. From your stance (the postmodern perspective), however, truth is relative ultimately lacking all merit. I'm not trying to convert you, I'm simply making a point that the Christian worldview has the ability to ask questions because truth is absolute and fundamental.
It seems that your objective truth changes over time.
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Firstly, I want scriptural reference to the biblical objections you're actually making (to show that you've looked through the Bible). Expanses of societies and civilizations have been founded and rooted in absolute Biblical doctrine. The very words you speak, many of the expressions you say, have been derived from Christian custom. The basic characterics of our society (family, marriage, education etc.) are founded in scripture. The rudimentary attribute of God is remaining the same "yesterday today and forever." His character hasn't changed, but his law directing the Israeli people specifically (The Old convenant), and the law directing Christedom today (The New convenant) have been placed with different regulations/customs with the ultimate objective of drawing humanity to himself. Throughout 3400 years, dozens of different authors, differing cultures surrounding the authors, the message of the Bible has been a consistent storyline ultimately pointing to the absolute person of Jesus Christ.
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I don't fear any thing because "muh gawd" 😂
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Charm City LLC. wrote:
So, unless on can make scriptural references to the bible they are forbidden from talking about it? On a side noteFirstly, I want scriptural reference to the biblical objections you're actually making (to show that you've looked through the Bible).
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
I also think the fact that western society has bases much of their lives on it for thousands of years means nothing really, the egyptians had a religion of their own for thousands of years, which is now refered to as magic and myths -
Forbidden? Incorrect. Lacking contextual history? Yes. Could you discuss the themes/motifs of "Macbeth" without reading the Shakespearian play? You could, but while doing so, you sacrifice vital information regarding the play. Same concept. Secondly, Christianity and ancient Egyptian religion lack the sufficiency to be compared. The ancient Egyptian religion was extremely localized and solely accustomed to a singular society. Christianity has historically demonstrated that it is much more than a localized, cultural religion. It has reached the far expanses of the world appealing to all people groups. Why? Simply due to the absolute/objective truth found in the Bible. Christianity single handedly constructed western society: the birthplace of many fundamental aspects to society (family, marriage, economy etc.)
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So in conclusion, one can't diminish the active role Christianity played in constructing Western society. Science, Government, Economics, Family have all been shaped by the absolute authority of scripture (which I consider pretty significant)
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Charm City LLC. wrote:
Western society comes from Ancient Greece. Really?So in conclusion, one can't diminish the active role Christianity played in constructing Western society. Science, Government, Economics, Family have all been shaped by the absolute authority of scripture (which I consider pretty significant)
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★★BЯOШИИOTΞ★★ wrote:
Tell me how so?Charm City LLC. wrote:
Western society comes from Ancient Greece. Really?So in conclusion, one can't diminish the active role Christianity played in constructing Western society. Science, Government, Economics, Family have all been shaped by the absolute authority of scripture (which I consider pretty significant)
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All one has to do is pick up the skeptic's annotated bible app and it's all categorized neatly.
Here are a few gems. This is not law. It's depravery framed as "normal":
Genesis
4:19
19:8
26:34
28:9
29:18-30
Exodus
6:20
21:4
21:10
Numbers
31:1-54
Deuteronomy
21:11-14
22:23-24
28:56-57
Leviticus
25:44-46
Judges
8:30
2 Samuel
12:11-12
2 Kings
2:23-24
2 Cronicles
13:21(I'd do much more, but it's kind of disturbing to read the thing, so I cut it short. Covered all the categories, though.)
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I'm sure this "skeptics bible app" is erroneously out of context in terms of providing the entire passage instead of simply a verse. Like any book, context is king. That certainly applies to reading the Bible. We could argue all day, but I refrain
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So your words only apply to other people? Or...
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💣KA-BOOM💣 wrote:
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I would love to discuss privately.So your words only apply to other people? Or...
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Charm City LLC. wrote:
I recommend reading it instead of just being "sure". It's what it says it is: an annotated bible.I'm sure this "skeptics bible app" is erroneously out of context in terms of providing the entire passage instead of simply a verse. Like any book, context is king. That certainly applies to reading the Bible. We could argue all day, but I refrain
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★★BЯOШИИOTΞ★★ wrote:
Thats what i meantCharm City LLC. wrote:
I recommend reading it instead of just being "sure".I'm sure this "skeptics bible app" is erroneously out of context in terms of providing the entire passage instead of simply a verse. Like any book, context is king. That certainly applies to reading the Bible. We could argue all day, but I refrain
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★★BЯOШИИOTΞ★★ wrote:
Back track a bit for me. Why was this question ignored? I would love to hear your Confirmatio analysis, if you will, on how western society was solely established by the Greeks.Charm City LLC. wrote:
Western society comes from Ancient Greece. Really?So in conclusion, one can't diminish the active role Christianity played in constructing Western society. Science, Government, Economics, Family have all been shaped by the absolute authority of scripture (which I consider pretty significant)
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Charm City LLC. wrote: ....I would love to hear your Confirmatio analysis, if you will, on how western society was solely established by the Greeks.
NONE of the items you list were significantly shaped by Christianity. The origins of western culture, namely government, science, debate, and philosophy all come from Anchient Greece. The economy pre-dates that. Family is the mostly the same in every culture.Honestly, I have a hard time understanding how you credit Christianity with any advancement of western culture.
Perhaps instead of "shaped", you meant "held us back a thousand years".
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The rudimentary notion of democracy was used from the Greeks, sure. However, pure democracy has never been demonstrated as a reliable governing entity (and our Founding Fathers clearly knew that). The very Constitution you abide under doesn't exist as a purely democratic system. It's actually far from it. Also, the Constitution, the greatest, most stable piece of governmental writing was purposely founded on Biblical principles. Secondly, Modern science, the very concepts and foundations of scientific thought, how you think, were established by Newton, Galileo, Copernicus etc. ALL Christians. Renaissance Science was used as a method of worship. Don't discredit 2000 years of History. You're a product of those 2000 years my friend, and the time in which we disregard History is a time in which I don't want to live in.
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Republican additions to democracy were pagan Rome. This is what the "Founding Fathers" based our constitution on. Arguably, the most famous founding fathers were not even Christians.
Newton, Galileo, and Capernicus. Yeah. They gave us science in spite of religion. Galileo was convicted in 1633 and sentenced to house arrest for having the nerve to go along with Wacky Capernicus and his blasphemous heliocentric idea that God didn't put the Earth in the center of the universe. In SPITE of Christanity.
Newton was luckier as he was born into the enlightenment, but was also at odds with the church. Had he been born in China, he would make the same discoveries and would be at odds with Confucius.
Christianity has contributed what to science? To government? to technology? To PHILOSOPHY? It has taken us 1500 years to get back to where the ancient Greeks left off. All thanks to Christianity.
You chose a poor point to argue. Religion has good points, but not the advancement of modern civilization.
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Charm City LLC. wrote:
Please explain exactly how the U.S. constitution is based on Biblical principles rather than secular political science....the Constitution, the greatest, most stable piece of governmental writing was purposely founded on Biblical principles.
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Secular political science? The only existing framework for government was pure democracy and Monarchy. There was limited "political science." Our founding fathers, James Madison (the father of the Constitution), John Adams (2nd president), Roger Sherman (the great compromiser) were all practicing Christians with significant influences in the construction of the Constitution. George Washington states, "(The adoption of the Constitution) will demonstrate as visibly the finger of Providence as any possible event in the course of Human affairs can ever designate it." The Founders also used Ancient Israeli principles as well as Anglo Saxon laws in establishing the Constitution. Removing the Bible from the Constitution would be in essence destroying the fiber of the Constitution, something the Founding Fathers would be devastated of.
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Biblical forms of government are:
Kings.
Well, that was short.
The constitution is based on the Pagan Roman Representative Republic and English common law (also Roman).
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It seems to me that you are in the same situation I was in. You believe this stuff because of a lack of formal higher education.
Me personally, I blame the Christian cult I was in as a young man that told me college was pointless. In heaven, there are no degrees. Save souls; don't focus on careers and secular enlightenment.
Of course, soon after I later enrolled as an adult, I saw why they discouraged higher education. It's poison to religion.
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Believe it or not, Ancient Israeli governmental principles consisted more than simply having a King. You lack substantive evidence for the assertions your bombastically imposing. You're the product of liberal, post modernist education it seems to me. It's actually alarming to me that the majority of our voting populous has this same ideology as you; completely disregarding the obvious Christian influence in our Constitution. Christianity, in its fundamental form, encourages the the advancement of the mind, "Let us reason together, says the Lord..." (Isaiah 1). Your Christian "cult" was obviously not practicing doctrinal Christianity.
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