Obama (here we go....)
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Bored out of my mind at work. Was reading news stories that I hadn't seen yet when I came across this.....
http://downtrend.com/jaye-ryan/obamas-birth-still-under-investigation-by-uk-court/I have no clue at all how England's judicial system works, but could they supenea US files?
And honestly, as Clinton said,"What difference does it make"? -
As soon as the article referred to the president as "obummer" i considered it bullshit. Not exactly impartial journalism no matter what your political views are.
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I agree. Did u read down to the trial in the UK though? Just wondering if they can make the US produce the files. Pretty sure they can't, but I honestly have no idea. And I'm bored as hell and figured Addi or Fnord would argue to help pass the last 1.5 hours I have left at work :-)
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Bwahahaha. So true.I agree. Did u read down to the trial in the UK though? Just wondering if they can make the US produce the files. Pretty sure they can't, but I honestly have no idea. And I'm bored as hell and figured Addi or Fnord would argue to help pass the last 1.5 hours I have left at work :-)
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I'll try to argue with you when I get home from work lol.
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There are a good number of reasons to not like Obama. Why do the conservitives always bring this up?
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I'll bite. This argument is brought up because they man that declared the US would be getting the most transparent administration ever has been nothing but transparent, and no that's not a knock on his skin color either.
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🔥💩 wrote:
Fixed it for you.I'll bite. This argument is brought up because they man that declared the US would be getting the most transparent administration ever has been 👉anything👈 but transparent, and no that's not a knock on his skin color either.
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ʟɛx тooтʜɛʀ™ wrote:
Yeah that's what I meant thanks. 👍👌🔥💩 wrote:
Fixed it for you.I'll bite. This argument is brought up because they man that declared the US would be getting the most transparent administration ever has been 👉anything👈 but transparent, and no that's not a knock on his skin color either.
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I was born in Hawaii and i have proof...😐
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He took urrrr jubs!!!
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Why do they care that he might be an immigrant, every other president and most (big %) American citizens are, or at least were if you will, immigrants from the beginning.
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Well they've only got two more years to beat this dead horse, as Obama said himself it will be a lot harder to say Hillary isn't a citizen
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King of Clubs wrote:
Well they've only got two more years to beat this dead horse, as Obama said himself it will be a lot harder to say Hillary isn't a citizen
Hillary isn't a dead lock that everybody thinks she is. Benghazi is going to wind up biting her in the ass.
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
As much as I hope it does, I think the media will find ways to help her out and deflect.King of Clubs wrote:
Well they've only got two more years to beat this dead horse, as Obama said himself it will be a lot harder to say Hillary isn't a citizen
Hillary isn't a dead lock that everybody thinks she is. Benghazi is going to wind up biting her in the ass.
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Watching too much Fox lately? Those idiots can't even point out Benghazi on a map. As for helping her out and "deflecting blame," is that what the media did for Bush who had more advanced warning about 9/11 than we thought? How many people dead? Was that deflected? Oh that's right, the worldwide war on terror deflected that.
What a joke. If she weren't possibly running for office, no one would be bringing Benghazi up.
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gunstreet grrl wrote:
Watching too much Fox lately? Those idiots can't even point out Benghazi on a map. As for helping her out and "deflecting blame," is that what the media did for Bush who had more advanced warning about 9/11 than we thought? How many people dead? Was that deflected? Oh that's right, the worldwide war on terror deflected that.
What a joke. If she weren't possibly running for office, no one would be bringing Benghazi up.
So you're a "truther"?
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Wherever did you get that idea from? No, I'm not a "truther" because a) I'm not a psychopath nor do I b) live off the grid with my own generator nor c) conjure up insane anti-gov conspiracy theories. I've spent half my life in the Middle East, a big part of that in Libya actually - I have a pretty good grasp of the attitude toward US foreign policy in the Arab world.
I was talking about assigning blame.
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gunstreet grrl wrote:
Go learn your American history, Libya has been a constant threat to America before America was a country. Because of the Barbary wars is what got America initially into Debt. No I don't watch Fox, I read books. For starters try "Faith, Power and Fantasy: History if America in the Middle East". Please stick to one point versus trying to connect different instances that are not really connected.Watching too much Fox lately? Those idiots can't even point out Benghazi on a map. As for helping her out and "deflecting blame," is that what the media did for Bush who had more advanced warning about 9/11 than we thought? How many people dead? Was that deflected? Oh that's right, the worldwide war on terror deflected that.
What a joke. If she weren't possibly running for office, no one would be bringing Benghazi up.
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Yes a lot of everyday Americans are still concerned over what happened in Benghazi, and what the administration as whole did or did not do after the fact.gunstreet grrl wrote:
Watching too much Fox lately? Those idiots can't even point out Benghazi on a map. As for helping her out and "deflecting blame," is that what the media did for Bush who had more advanced warning about 9/11 than we thought? How many people dead? Was that deflected? Oh that's right, the worldwide war on terror deflected that.
What a joke. If she weren't possibly running for office, no one would be bringing Benghazi up.
So you're a "truther"?
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I like the fact that both sides do not talk of any future reforms that need to take place to further our country and its sections, but the issues that no longer need to be addressed anymore. It DOESNT MATTER ANYMORE! ITS OVER! YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE, NOT THE PAST! If you have something to improve from the past, bring it up. Dont bicker about what either side has done because both sides have had their own servings of bullshit and screwups. These conflicts are only used to bring supporters to separate sides. So unless you believe you can make a change and do something different, it does no help arguing in a chat room about it. Bring up the idea in a council or run for an official position if you have the zeal to make a difference.
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gunstreet grrl wrote:
What's wrong with B? I do that, saves money and resources and lets you live in interesting places (except substitute 'generator' with 'solar and hydro') but one's power sources don't necessarily define one's political views. 😒Wherever did you get that idea from? No, I'm not a "truther" because a) I'm not a psychopath nor do I b) live off the grid with my own generator nor c) conjure up insane anti-gov conspiracy theories. I've spent half my life in the Middle East, a big part of that in Libya actually - I have a pretty good grasp of the attitude toward US foreign policy in the Arab world.
I was talking about assigning blame.
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Hey joker:
If we can find out exactly what happened that night maybe we can better prepare for the future. Find out why communication broke down and additional security wasn't sent when asked. You do realize this is the first time in 34 years that we had an ambassador get killed? I'm sure his and other families are fine with the whole "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE" attitude 👍 -
🔥💩 wrote:
First of all, it's not "America", but the US - knock it off with appropriating a whole continent already. Second, I don't need to "go learn American history" - when you learn the history of my country, we can talk. Third, when you bring the Barbary wars to explain CURRENT US foreign policy and the (perceived) threat Libya presents to the US, then truly that word "fantasy" in your book title is appropriate.gunstreet grrl wrote:
Go learn your American history, Libya has been a constant threat to America before America was a country. Because of the Barbary wars is what got America initially into Debt. No I don't watch Fox, I read books. For starters try "Faith, Power and Fantasy: History if America in the Middle East". Please stick to one point versus trying to connect different instances that are not really connected..
Stay away from topics that are miles over your head.
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ه٥༜٥ه wrote:
I was just being obnoxious. I apologize to all who own a generator. And I agree with you, just wanted to say I'm not a bunker dweller. And I can't see Russia from my house 😃gunstreet grrl wrote:
What's wrong with B? I do that, saves money and resources and lets you live in interesting places (except substitute 'generator' with 'solar and hydro') but one's power sources don't necessarily define one's political views. 😒Wherever did you get that idea from? No, I'm not a "truther" because a) I'm not a psychopath nor do I b) live off the grid with my own generator nor c) conjure up insane anti-gov conspiracy theories. I've spent half my life in the Middle East, a big part of that in Libya actually - I have a pretty good grasp of the attitude toward US foreign policy in the Arab world.
I was talking about assigning blame.
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Exactly. The Ambassador had been asking months before Sep 11, 2012 for beefed security stating there was an impending attack. The Britts knew, pulled out. The RED FUCKING CROSS knew and PULLED out. Yet our Ambassador was kept there, and look what happened. But yeah what difference does it matter, and it Had Nothing to do with the date, and it was because of some random video on you tube.Hey joker:
If we can find out exactly what happened that night maybe we can better prepare for the future. Find out why communication broke down and additional security wasn't sent when asked. You do realize this is the first time in 34 years that we had an ambassador get killed? I'm sure his and other families are fine with the whole "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE" attitude 👍 -
1) Its my country so I will refer to it as I see fit, plus I didn't "coin" use of the word in that manner. So if you don't like it to bad.
2) Okay your right it's unfair for me to tell you to learn American History. I do not profess to know a whole lot about Libya, but what I do know is that Muslim Militants have made it their purpose to destroy America, which is the cause of the Barbary wars, and the history between the two countries have been strained since America's inception.
3) I didn't write the book so you using a selected word from the title to throw back at me is useless and irrelevant. The book truly is eye opening and any one who has been affected by America and her conquests, should read it.
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*It's, too and you're right. English is my third language and I get that right.
Your entire argument about the US debt with regards to the Barbary wars is "useless and irrelevant." The (19th century, mind you) Barbary pirates did not make it their "purpose to destroy 'America'", they asked for tributes. The US refused to pay. It was about money, any argument outside of that is lunacy and w/o relevance to the modern day world.
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🔥💩 wrote:
You can't use that argument. Your father knew, but didn't pull out. Should we hold him responsible?ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Exactly. The Ambassador had been asking months before Sep 11, 2012 for beefed security stating there was an impending attack. The Britts knew, pulled out. The RED FUCKING CROSS knew and PULLED out. Yet our Ambassador was kept there,Hey joker:
If we can find out exactly what happened that night maybe we can better prepare for the future. Find out why communication broke down and additional security wasn't sent when asked. You do realize this is the first time in 34 years that we had an ambassador get killed? I'm sure his and other families are fine with the whole "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE" attitude 👍 -
Lowering to personal insults classic.
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gunstreet grrl wrote:
No my entire argument is that Violence stemming from Northern Africa specifically from Libya, is the point. Attacks from that region have never been random, not against anything Related to America.*It's, too and you're right. English is my third language and I get that right.
Your entire argument about the US debt with regards to the Barbary wars is "useless and irrelevant." The (19th century, mind you) Barbary pirates did not make it their "purpose to destroy 'America'", they asked for tributes. The US refused to pay. It was about money, any argument outside of that is lunacy and w/o relevance to the modern day world.
And oh no I used the wrong version of to, or two or too, on a discussion post for a game for me it's on my phone, I don't care, and I'm sure I have missed a few dozen comas, I don't care about that either.
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