Why I look forward to death.
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★MΛΥΗΞΜ★ wrote:
George Carlin from the opening of zeitgeistTheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
👆anything else devalues the life you are living now! An after life is a lie that enough of you are actually scared into believing that it is real. What a joke! Can you say cognitive dissonance!? Oh but right you're so special because YOU are gods children, because you can get on your knees and pray to the right god YOU WILL BE SAVED! Mind you make sure you pray to the right deity or face ETERNAL DAMNATION! But god is great, god loves you. Oh and GOD NEEDS MONEY!😂😭😂☠ðůﾅ⌖ʟḁẘ☠ wrote:
This.BADͣFͩIͩSH wrote:
Lights out.
Corpse rots.
The end.
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Add: KOZY wrote:
Oh I thought it was just hatespeech😂😭😂★MΛΥΗΞΜ★ wrote:
George Carlin from the opening of zeitgeistTheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
👆anything else devalues the life you are living now! An after life is a lie that enough of you are actually scared into believing that it is real. What a joke! Can you say cognitive dissonance!? Oh but right you're so special because YOU are gods children, because you can get on your knees and pray to the right god YOU WILL BE SAVED! Mind you make sure you pray to the right deity or face ETERNAL DAMNATION! But god is great, god loves you. Oh and GOD NEEDS MONEY!😂😭😂☠ðůﾅ⌖ʟḁẘ☠ wrote:
This.BADͣFͩIͩSH wrote:
Lights out.
Corpse rots.
The end.
👋🔌💀
So enjoy the life you are living now. -
It is rational to believe in god. If god exists, then those who believe in god receive an infinite reward upon death (heaven). Those who don't believe in god receive an infinite punishment upon death (eternal damnation). If god doesn't exist, then for their entire life, those who believe in god are comforted by the fact that they will receive a reward in the afterlife, and will not exist after death to be disappointed. Those who do not believe in god will spend their life being as happy as they can be also, albeit without the comfort of religion, however much that is worth (let's pretend they're equal, since compared to infinity, it essentially is). Therefore, belief in god, whether god exists or not, has a higher potential payoff than disbelief, and it is therefore more rational to believe in god.
Refute!
Bonus points for whoever can name that theorist without looking it up.
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You're talking about one single religious belief amongst thousands, or millions, that have existed. You make the assumption that your's is the only belief besides atheism. 50/50. That's probably the most bigoted part of your belief system and is so deeply engrained that you can't even recognize it.
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Ojibwe wrote:
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆You're talking about one single religious belief amongst thousands, or millions, that have existed. You make the assumption that your's is the only belief besides atheism. 50/50. That's probably the most bigoted part of your belief system and is so deeply engrained that you can't even recognize it.
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Ojibwe wrote:
Sorry, it's probably because I'm a little late to this party, but who are you replying to?You're talking about one single religious belief amongst thousands, or millions, that have existed. You make the assumption that your's is the only belief besides atheism. 50/50. That's probably the most bigoted part of your belief system and is so deeply engrained that you can't even recognize it.
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λΙΙuviøη wrote:
Try the shoe on and tell me if it fits.Ojibwe wrote:
Sorry, it's probably because I'm a little late to this party, but who are you replying to?You're talking about one single religious belief amongst thousands, or millions, that have existed. You make the assumption that your's is the only belief besides atheism. 50/50. That's probably the most bigoted part of your belief system and is so deeply engrained that you can't even recognize it.
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Ojibwe wrote:
Ah yes, I figured you thought you were replying to me. You see, all I did was restate boss ante's attempt on page 2 to present a theory dating back to the 1600's. His attempt was a bit butchered, and I enjoy philosophy, so I fixed it. I guess I overestimated your ability to understand that line at the bottom where I offered bonus points (in the form of experience points) to anyone who could name the theory's original author. I don't actually hold to that belief, and can accurately refute it probably better than anyone else around here, given the intelligence of the people in this thread, as evidenced by the dunce cap you presently wear.λΙΙuviøη wrote:
Try the shoe on and tell me if it fits.Sorry, it's probably because I'm a little late to this party, but who are you replying to?
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λΙΙuviøη, the assumption that Pascal knew which god to wager on and what tricks to perform to get put in the "do not burn pile" make the wager completely irrelevent. It is irrational to make a bet without knowing all of the circumstances. These circumstances are the fact that there is no evidence stated to support his "god". Anyone willing to make the bet to get into heaven is also willing to make the bet to go to hell. Now which god do you bet on? Because now you have infinite choices and if you pick the wrong one(not just the wrong name, you have to meet his requirements as well) you are burning in hell.
Pascal is betting on being right, without any evidence based on a supposition.
Also the assumption of what is perceived as punishment is greatly flawed. I would view living any eternity under a evil dictator as punishment, which is why I win :) -
★MΛΥΗΞΜ★ wrote:
You get bonus points for knowing Pascal. But there's an easier way to refute Pascal. Belief is not a choice. You can't simply CHOOSE to sincerely believe in god or not simply because it has a better payoff.λΙΙuviøη, the assumption that Pascal knew which god to wager on and what tricks to perform to get put in the "do not burn pile" make the wager completely irrelevent. It is irrational to make a bet without knowing all of the circumstances. These circumstances are the fact that there is no evidence stated to support his "god". Anyone willing to make the bet to get into heaven is also willing to make the bet to go to hell. Now which god do you bet on? Because now you have infinite choices and if you pick the wrong one(not just the wrong name, you have to meet his requirements as well) you are burning in hell.
Pascal is betting on being right, without any evidence based on a supposition. -
The bet doesn't matter unless you believe in one of the two choices. It's an argument you can only have with yourself, not the vast millions of people who have no interest in the game. And it's bigotry to believe its the only game in town.
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Ojibwe wrote:
The arguments you have with yourself are the only arguments that matter. (<That actually is my belief, btw). And the rest still goes over your head...The bet doesn't matter unless you believe in one of the two choices. It's an argument you can only have with yourself, not the vast millions of people who have no interest in the game. And it's bigotry to believe its the only game in town.
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λΙΙuviøη wrote:
Stan Laurel must beIt is rational to believe in god. If god exists, then those who believe in god receive an infinite reward upon death (heaven). Those who don't believe in god receive an infinite punishment upon death (eternal damnation). If god doesn't exist, then for their entire life, those who believe in god are comforted by the fact that they will receive a reward in the afterlife, and will not exist after death to be disappointed. Those who do not believe in god will spend their life being as happy as they can be also, albeit without the comfort of religion, however much that is worth (let's pretend they're equal, since compared to infinity, it essentially is). Therefore, belief in god, whether god exists or not, has a higher potential payoff than disbelief, and it is therefore more rational to believe in god.
Refute!
Bonus points for whoever can name that theorist without looking it up.
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My thoughts are that all religion is bullshit. I don't condemn anyone who believes in them that's there opinion. Problem is every religion is quite easy to pick holes in.
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But I do believe there's something after we die. I no 999 out of every 1000 psychics are full of rubbish but there are the ones that make you think ? Wow how did he or she no that.also over the years the amount of people that experience paranormal activity it enormous , surly can't all be false
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Mr,Shush wrote:
Never heard of him ??Three wise men of Persia came to visit the baby saviour -god brought him gifts of gold , myrrh , frankincense .He was born on the 25 of December ,He died on a cross, he had a last supper, he had 12 disciples, his body was laid to rest in a tomb, he rose from the dead 3 days after, he had a celibate priesthood, he ascended into heaven. His name was Mithra. ?? Ring a bell , O by the way he was around 600 year BC. Just saying
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So many religions in this world and every one saying "mine is the right one". Lmao
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λΙΙuviøη wrote:✂️
Well to my defence I came up with that myself unaware of 👆 fact!
Ah yes, I figured you thought you were replying to me. You see, all I did was restate boss ante's attempt on page 2 to present a theory dating back to the 1600's. His attempt was a bit butchered, and I enjoy philosophy, so I fixed it. I guess I overestimated your ability to understand that line at the bottom where I offered bonus points (in the form of experience points) to anyone who could name the theory's original author. I don't actually hold to that belief, and can accurately refute it probably better than anyone else around here, given the intelligence of the people in this thread, as evidenced by the dunce cap you presently wear. -
FreeBaconTacos wrote:
If there's a life after death we don't know, we have nothing to prove it or disprove so it's about 50/50, like we have not managed to get one back yet.
So I'd say be on the safe side and live life like you'd like to, because in the end one is right another is wrong, and you won't know until you've died and neither will I.What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
about 50/50 are you guys reading thisBilly Madison :)
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☠ðůﾅ⌖ʟḁẘ☠ wrote:
Yeah but most say, "mine is the right one for me," and don't try to insist everyone else follow their rules.So many religions in this world and every one saying "mine is the right one". Lmao
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(heaven). Those who don't believe in god receive an infinite punishment upon death (eternal damnation). If god doesn't exist, then for their entire life, those who believe in god are comforted by the fact that they will receive a reward in the afterlife, and will not exist after death to be disappointed. Those who do not believe in god will spend their life being as happy as they can be also, albeit without the comfort of religion, however much that is worth (let's pretend they're equal, since compared to infinity, it essentially is). Therefore, belief in god, whether god exists or not, has a higher potential payoff than disbelief, and it is therefore more rational to believe in god.
Refute!
Bonus points for whoever can name that theorist without looking it up.
So your benevolent god created me. Won't tell me for sure that he exists sends a devil to tempt me. But will punish me for eternity if I choose wrongly. Some fucking benevolent god right there. More a dictator.
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I keep hearing the same BS from the religion side ASSUMING that non-religious people pretty much have nothing to comfort themselves and that we're left with some sort of unspeakable void in our "DAMNED" souls.
Sounds like us non-religious people are infirior to you Christians and Catholics.
Ohh and I guess if you're Muslim, Buddhist, or a Jedi; YOU'RE FUCKED TOO!
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certusd wrote:
Based on the theory I presented, I'm not sure how you got that this god was benevolent. In fact, it said nothing about the god, and could easily be applied to any god or gods that require some sort of belief. The author of that theory, incidentally, was a Catholic. The Catholic god isn't exactly the nicest one around.So your benevolent god created me. Won't tell me for sure that he exists sends a devil to tempt me. But will punish me for eternity if I choose wrongly. Some fucking benevolent god right there. More a dictator.
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BADͣFͩIͩSH wrote:
I know Mayhem gets it, but it's pretty funny that nobody else seems to be able to read. I presented a theory by a Catholic philosopher. In no way do I subscribe to this theory. I even refuted it on this very page. I'm not religious. But you non-religious folks sure are showing your bigoted side by attacking me for what I don't believe. Turns out everyone's a bigot when it comes to religion.I keep hearing the same BS from the religion side ASSUMING that non-religious people pretty much have nothing to comfort themselves and that we're left with some sort of unspeakable void in our "DAMNED" souls.
Sounds like us non-religious people are infirior to you Christians and Catholics.
Ohh and I guess if you're Muslim, Buddhist, or a Jedi; YOU'RE FUCKED TOO!
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I wonder how this argument would have turned out if I had written Allah instead of god. I guess I can find out in six months when the same debate turns up and everyone forgot what happened here.
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^ lol. so which religion is the best evidently proven to be true?
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Well guys look like I have a chance to find out soon. A fire broke out in the foothills right above my house. So if it gets bad well then I'm in trouble
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:0 I will write down your findings
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λΙΙuviøη wrote:
Honestly I still would've came at mayhem the exact same way. I didn't do what I did because he made fun of Christian beliefs, I did it because he made fun of believing in a god in general. That's why I never singles out the Christian religion I always said god or gods. Idk about the rest but I wouldn't have changed a thing.I wonder how this argument would have turned out if I had written Allah instead of god. I guess I can find out in six months when the same debate turns up and everyone forgot what happened here.
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BADͣFͩIͩSH wrote:
I like how you separated Catholics from the rest of the Christian religion. I don't have anything against Catholics but they act like god is hateful and they have so many practices I just don't see necessary xDI keep hearing the same BS from the religion side ASSUMING that non-religious people pretty much have nothing to comfort themselves and that we're left with some sort of unspeakable void in our "DAMNED" souls.
Sounds like us non-religious people are infirior to you Christians and Catholics.
Ohh and I guess if you're Muslim, Buddhist, or a Jedi; YOU'RE FUCKED TOO!
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