What do you think happens when you die?
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I hope not, my dreams are horrific. Foreshadowing of things to come... Never thought of it like that...damn
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As for the "moral" balence, the jihads, that is a hard area. The way that i believe is we are not judged off of our perspective of "right and wrong", but what the moral balence is, in the mannor of speaking, the inner conscience. Now, that is a hard thing to cover quick, but like i brought up, have you been in those times where the is a "right/wrong" decision, and you felt that cold sweat, you knew what was "morally" right? That is the conscience. Now, the problem with that is, is when you over ride it, you kill it. I think that even Allen Edger Poe wrote something on that.
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So, morallity can be overriden by the free will we have. The soul is there, as like i said, hopefully or hope. We got to be able to listen to our own reason. As far as do animals have souls? I do not have facts to back up either a yea or neh on that. I would think so, as they are "living beings", but since we cannot talk/communicate with then, i really dunno. I can only answer for what i have the ablity to back up. Good question though, will do some digging to see...
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As far as the clone sheep having a soul I would have to say no. It's a man made entity. This may seem like a bad example but I feel we can all agree a computer or television have no soul. They're simply man made devices. Man made a sheep using the genetic material of another sheep. I would say at a minimum the clone wouldn't have a soul. As for all animals I couldn't say for certain yes or no.
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🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I have to agree on that, thanks.As far as the clone sheep having a soul I would have to say no. It's a man made entity. This may seem like a bad example but I feel we can all agree a computer or television have no soul. They're simply man made devices. Man made a sheep using the genetic material of another sheep. I would say at a minimum the clone wouldn't have a soul. As for all animals I couldn't say for certain yes or no.
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http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence10.html
This website has some pretty interesting stories if you want to check it out -
Eagle101SJTDV wrote:
Please explain how it is decided which twin gets the soul since they both come from the same egg/dna. And people communicate with their dogs everyday. And man made? Who gave them intuition, drive and ability?🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I have to agree on that, thanks.As far as the clone sheep having a soul I would have to say no. It's a man made entity. This may seem like a bad example but I feel we can all agree a computer or television have no soul. They're simply man made devices. Man made a sheep using the genetic material of another sheep. I would say at a minimum the clone wouldn't have a soul. As for all animals I couldn't say for certain yes or no.
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twins - who says the soul has to be in one place at a time or that there is just one soul? whether its preexisting or is created at the moment of conception or sometime afterward... could be two unique souls.
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i'm gonna stay away from animals having souls because then you have to bring in topics like sex, marriage, and murder, next thing they are voting... it just gets messy. i'm happy with remaining ignorant just so i can continue to bbq them, don't really want to go past that.
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Deicide wrote:
Agreed on that haha =Pi'm gonna stay away from animals having souls because then you have to bring in topics like sex, marriage, and murder, next thing they are voting... it just gets messy. i'm happy with remaining ignorant just so i can continue to bbq them, don't really want to go past that.
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Bernie Green wrote:
There's a difference between a twin and a clone. Even twins aren't 100% genetically compatible, no one is. They're two different humans formed from one egg and so they both naturally have their own soul. They didn't have to choose which of them had hands or feet did they? LolEagle101SJTDV wrote:
Please explain how it is decided which twin gets the soul since they both come from the same egg/dna. And people communicate with their dogs everyday. And man made? Who gave them intuition, drive and ability?🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I have to agree on that, thanks.✂️
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Do animals have self awareness? Clones or natural, I think they do. How can you have self awareness without a soul?
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Bernie Green wrote:
What exactly are you referring to when you mention their sense of self awareness?Do animals have self awareness? Clones or natural, I think they do. How can you have self awareness without a soul?
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🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
The answer is yes. Because Animals learn from their behaviors. Dogs can be taught to go tithe bathroom out side. Some hunt in packs(cooperation). Others live in groups with an alpha male. Those are all examples of how they do see reward and consequences for their actions.(self awareness)Bernie Green wrote:
What exactly are you referring to when you mention their sense of self awareness?Do animals have self awareness? Clones or natural, I think they do. How can you have self awareness without a soul?
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Depends:
If you've been good, you end up in WALL TEST for all of eternity.
If you've been bad, you end up stuck alternating between MLP & reading nothing but GD.
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Bernie Green wrote:
It's a good point but self awareness and morality are different things. A pack of dogs or even a single dog won't feel remorseful for a kill. Even upon an innocent animal. They have animalistic instinct and they posses the ability to learn and unify. Most animals lack morals.🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
The answer is yes. Because Animals learn from their behaviors. Dogs can be taught to go tithe bathroom out side. Some hunt in packs(cooperation). Others live in groups with an alpha male. Those are all examples of how they do see reward and consequences for their actions.(self awareness)Bernie Green wrote:
What exactly are you referring to when you mention their sense of self awareness?Do animals have self awareness? Clones or natural, I think they do. How can you have self awareness without a soul?
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Eagle101SJTDV wrote:
It's a physical injury that may alter your personality, how can that hurt your "soul"? Maybe if you put a religious aspect to it. I don't know. But if your personality changes, is it still you?LexSuede wrote:
Ok, so from that thought, my aspect on the soul is that it is your core being, and my thoughts is you cannot damage your soul with a physical injury, so, just a question to you, if you have a brain injury, (to the frontal cortex) do you hurt your soul? Just a thought.☠ðůﾅ⌖ʟḁẘ☠ wrote:
If we have a soul where would it be located? the brain? Lol
Yes, you're quite right. The personality, who you are, is located in the frontal lobe.
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Once we finally clone a human (it's coming eventually) will it have a soul? Does a soul have matter? If so, matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Where was the soul before birth? Reincarnation? Nope. There are more people on the earth now then the total of all previous humans. Where did those souls come from? I believe death is like a candle. When you die, the flame goes out and you cease to exist anymore.
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Zenu?There are more people on the earth now then the total of all previous humans. Where did those souls come from?
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Huh. I never realized "Zenu" was such a thread killer. :)
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Ojibwe wrote:
Haha I had decided to hop out of the thread so that if an argument were to break out I wouldn't be involved. Idk what happened to everyone else. It's been a pretty interesting read so far =PHuh. I never realized "Zenu" was such a thread killer. :)
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This isn't what I believe but.. You now how people say there lives flashed befor their live befor they die? Well what if when you life flashes befor their lives they watch it up to the point to where their lives flashed befor their lives and they watch it over and over and if you lived a good life then you relive it over and over is heaven and if you lived a bad evil life it's hell
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To Valhalla? 🔪🍗
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Who are we to even guess at what happens? As long as you life your life well, nothing else matters.
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I just hope that it isn't just black.
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You cease to exist. No afterlife or any of that bullshit you either get put in a box and buried or burned to ashes
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sural746 wrote:
That's an interesting idea to be honest, but then whether you are in heaven or hell would be based on your perspective. Someone that was a murderer or such may believe their actions to have been for the better, and therefore their judgement would be that they are in heaven, while others would say that's a hell to keep watching.This isn't what I believe but.. You now how people say there lives flashed befor their live befor they die? Well what if when you life flashes befor their lives they watch it up to the point to where their lives flashed befor their lives and they watch it over and over and if you lived a good life then you relive it over and over is heaven and if you lived a bad evil life it's hell
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Also what would happen for babies and such that were "killed" (loose term as that depends on what you believe) prematurely for example in abortion. Would they not get to witness this 'heaven or hell' as they weren't even able to 'exist'?
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Isn't hell were bad ppl get praised for the wicked deeds the have done (I have not made a typo)
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the Flying Spaghetti Monster will save us all.
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