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★Λddi★ wrote:
The problem addi is that you dont care about answers especially after that carpet burn question- a -thon you gave above. Thats absurd and you know it. If you have a question then ask it. Dont start creating "complex questions" within your questions you need to deal with presuppositions you lay out first. Perhaps we can have a conversation without you getting all up set.He true to their claim of literal interpretation and explain why all the sins within the same paragraph in the bible are no longer recognized as sins? I will never understand that and I would love for someone to acknowledge it when it comes up let alone try to explain why it's now okay for them to wear multi-fabric clothing, grow two crops in the same field, or eat shellfish but it's still not okay to lie with another man. Aren't all sins equal? Or how about that our savior did not
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★Λddi★ wrote:
To your first question, i need to know what passage of scripture you are referring to. It could be that you misunderstood the text. What we have explained through out both told and new testaments is what we refer to the holiness code and the moral code. Many of the commands from Leviticus are referring to God's command to be a separate people from the known pagans of the land. Thats what "holy" means. To be "singled out" or "a part". The moral code is recognized between both the commands within the holiness code (because the pagans were mostly in some sort of error of practice such as mothers sleeping with their sons to bestiality and homosexual acts) and the moral code which God has established that natural human beings should obey and should know right. One clear scripture we do see is romans 1. But i now have to spend time with my beautiful wife and her family. God bless!He
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More importantly, Romans 1: 26-27.
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★fnord★ wrote:
Are you suggesting that fundamental rights and equal protection are "group" rights and not individual rights?It matters not how you arrived at your worldview. We are a country of laws. Arguing that the fundamental rights of equal protection under the law and due process should be denied to a certain group you deem morally unworthy clearly puts you in the category of hopelessly intolerant bigot. You can hide behind your ancient texts and say you're simply stating your faith, but honestly you should know better than to treat your fellow humans this way. If your personal spiritual journey led you to this, I'm sorry but you're simply doing it wrong.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Fnord and the others hate any and everything religious. It offends them unless it furthers their political agendas. It's as simple as that. That's why all his comments are dripping with hate and contempt towards others religious beliefs. Just imagine if the majority of the county thought like him. Any religious or spiritual person would have to run and hide like another religious group did in europe 80 some years ago.★fnord★ wrote:
Is and ough fallacies dont develop "truth" or "facts". Your simply stating your opinion that the words coming from your mouth are more trust worthy than others simply because you said so. It is what it is and thats what it is all about. Wat the hell man🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
★fnord★ wrote:
@Dark Magician:
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Ùℵɖḝཞ Ʈʘώ wrote:
He needs to give detail of what he means by "equal". I would beg to differ that he wants true equal rights or "protection". There is two lovely brothers a the moment who want to get married. Who is fnord to tell them they cant have equal rights. Im sure he wouldnt defend fathers marrying their daughters.★fnord★ wrote:
Are you suggesting that fundamental rights and equal protection are "group" rights and not individual rights?It matters not how you arrived at your worldview. We are a country of laws. Arguing that the fundamental rights of equal protection under the law and due process should be denied to a certain group you deem morally unworthy clearly puts you in the category of hopelessly intolerant bigot. You can hide behind your ancient texts and say you're simply stating your faith, but honestly you should know better than to treat your fellow humans
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★Λddi★ wrote:
It's ironic that you assert the same accusations you levy on everyone else. Hypocrite!☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
What makes intolerance of intolerance/hate/bigotry the greater evil? What makes your idea of how others should live more important than my idea that others should be let to live free? Why do you think it's your right to pass laws that seep into people's private homes? How would you feel if someone told you that you could no longer be married to your wife, have children or read your Great Book? Thank God there are people like us that push against people like you. And you wouldn't have the rights that you have due solely to progressivism.★fnord★ wrote:
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I love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry. Also the comment of if I vote against same sex marriage I'm hateful. I thought I lived in America where my opinion is supposed to matter, the same place where I have a freedom of religion which is an inalienable right given to me by my country. None of us have lashed out against those throwing out the accusations, apparently we are only allowed opinions if they support their beliefs. Yet we're the bigots. I love the characters I meet on this game.
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🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
Its behavior change dude. If you have a disagreement its equivocated as being hateful. Its manipulation. On a global scaleI love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry. Also the comment of if I vote against same sex marriage I'm hateful. I thought I lived in America where my opinion is supposed to matter, the same place where I have a freedom of religion which is an inalienable right given to me by my country. None of us have lashed out against those throwing out the accusations, apparently we are only allowed opinions if they support their beliefs. Yet we're the bigots. I love the characters I meet on this game.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Absolutely, I find it hilarious honestly.🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
Its behavior change dude. If you have a disagreement its equivocated as being hateful. Its manipulation. On a global scaleI love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry. Also the comment of if I vote against same sex marriage I'm hateful. I thought I lived in America where my opinion is supposed to matter, the same place where I have a freedom of religion which is an inalienable right given to me by my country. None of us have lashed out against those throwing out the accusations, apparently we are only allowed opinions if they support their beliefs. Yet we're the bigots. I love the characters I meet on this game.
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
If homosexuality is such a serious transgression against God, why is it so rarely mentioned in the bible relative to other sins? 7 times in the entire bible to be exact. For comparison, the sin of hatred is mentioned 21 times, lying and false testimony 30, greed, avarice and covetousness 40, theft 42, adultery 52, murder 57, self-righteousness 79, and idolatry 169 times. Homosexuality does not appear in the Ten Commandments and it's not one of the 7 deadly sins. Jesus never once mentions it, even when preaching against a smorgasbord of other sexual sins. Where are the parables in which the unrepentant gay couple is punished for their sins, like the parables associated with all the other sins?...More importantly, Romans 1: 26-27.
Also 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 and 1 Timothy 1: 9-11 -
...If no one told you that it was mentioned in the Bible, you would likely read right past those 7 mentions without even noticing, and even if you caught them you would need most of them interpreted to you just so to reach the conclusion that homosexuality is an automatic ticket to hell. It's not clear at all exactly what is expected of the faithful Christian with regards to homosexuality, while all the other sins are spelled out in complex detail by repeated cautionary tales. Even more interesting to me is the fact that gay marriage is never mentioned in the Bible at all, for or against. Only that man and woman marriage is preferable but not mandatory. Why the big deal about the barely and vaguely mentioned homosexuality above other victimless sins such as idolatry, self-righteousness or envy which the Bible seems to take much more seriously? As I understand it, two gay men (or women) could marry and remain celibate and not get sideways with God in any way, at least according to Bible.
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🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I love how a lack of proof and evidence somehow proves your religion right and so it should govern all of mankind. You believe in your version of god, with sins and hell an death? Go ahead. But don't dare tell me how to live my life based off your imaginary friends "holy book". Man wrote that book, man translated that book multiple times. That books means shit to me. Also, marriage wasn't invented by Christianity. Marriage has nothing to do with religion. I will one day get MARRIED to a guy. Don't like? I don't care. Your life doesn't effect me. Why does mine affect yours so much?I love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry.
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★fnord★ wrote:
Your still failing to see both of our points. We have explained to you already that your confusing the holiness code with the moral code. I answered this above.ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
If homosexuality is such a serious transgression against God, why is it so rarely mentioned in the bible relative to other sins? 7 times in the entire bible to be exact. For comparison, the sin of hatred is mentioned 21 times, lying and false testimony 30, greed, avarice and covetousness 40, theft 42, adultery 52, murder 57, self-righteousness 79, and idolatry 169 times. Homosexuality does not appear in the Ten Commandments and it's not one of the 7 deadly sins. Jesus never once mentions it, even when preaching against a smorgasbord of other sexual sins. Where are ...More importantly, Romans 1: 26-27.
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★Λddi★ wrote:
Isn't a vote a show of opinion?🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
Well then good on you. I support you having your opinion. 👍★Λddi★ wrote:
I don't vote against it, but I offer it no support. It's simply an opinion.🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
Haha so which part of when I said I have no hatred towards anyone I just simply don't support their right for marriage are you incapable of comprehending. You tell me I'm hateful and a bad...
VOTE:
-the right to indicate a choice in an election
-used to express a wish to follow a particular course of actionSo in essence, Addi, aren't you saying "it's ok for you to have an opinion, just don't express it publicly (vote) if it differs from my point of view."
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★fnord★ wrote:
You have no idea who you are talking to. Looks like your just rambling off having a conversation by yourself to yourself as if you created a imaginary christian and debating him on the spot. You havent given any rational explanation why we have to accept your position....If no one told you that it was mentioned in the Bible, you would likely read right past those 7 mentions without even noticing, and even if you caught them you would need most of them interpreted to you just so to reach the conclusion that homosexuality is an automatic ticket to hell. It's not clear at all exactly what is expected of the faithful Christian with regards to homosexuality, while all the other sins are spelled out in complex detail by
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〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
Well you dont get the right to re define marriage. Your creator has defined it for you already and you hate it so much. If you dont care then just be gay and lie with another man but that doesnt make you any more married than two dudes and a horse. Christianity didnt create marriage, God did. Why are these strawman arguments so easily refuted?🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I love how a lack of proof and evidence somehow proves your religion right and so it should govern all of mankind. You believe in your version of god, with sins and hell an death? Go ahead. But don't dare tell me how to live my life based off your imaginary friends "holy book". Man wrote that book, man translated that book multiple times. That books means shit to me. Also, marriage wasn't invented byI love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry.
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It's very strange to me that some of you view the pro-gay and anti-gay movements to be 'sides' in a battle between two opposite competing moral positions. Far from it, the two movements have absolutely nothing in common. The anti-gay movement seeks to compel gays, by law, to conform to heterosexual norms of love and companionship. Aug said it a few pages back, they can marry the opposite sex or not at all. The pro-gay movement, on the other hand, is not trying to compel heterosexuals to change their behavior in any way. They're not asking you to like it or even respect it, just for you to allow it to not be outlawed in our supposedly free society. Get back to me when gays start doing the equivalent of what your movement does, trying to force you by law to divorce your wives and live a gay lifestyle. Then your childish complaints of religious persecution and victimhood might not fall on such deaf ears.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
God didn't create marriage. Man did. When I get married, it will be a marriage no matter how much you don't want it to be. I have no creator, as there is 0 proof to say otherwise. So your "creators" "rules" mean nothing to me. Which means your "creators moral laws" don't aply to me.〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I love how a lack of proof and evidence somehow proves your religion right and so it should govern all of mankind. You believe in your version of god, with sins and hell an death? Go ahead. But don't dare tell me how to live my life based off your imaginary friends "holy book". Man wrote that book, man translated that book multiple times. That books means shit to me. Also, marriage wasn't invented byI love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Actually they have, it's called logic. Where is your "rational explanation" to follow your sky daddies "moral laws"?★fnord★ wrote:
You havent given any rational explanation why we have to accept your position....If no one told you that it was mentioned in the Bible, you would likely read right past those 7 mentions without even noticing, and even if you caught them you would need most of them interpreted to you just so to reach the conclusion that homosexuality is an automatic ticket to hell. It's not clear at all exactly what is expected of the faithful Christian with regards to homosexuality, while all the other sins are spelled out in complex detail by
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
No need for the vulgarities. Also that's not a logical refutation, it's a dogmatic one. Where exactly is gay marriage specifically prohibited by the creator? Not gay sex but gay marriage?🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote: ✂️
Well you dont get the right to re define marriage. Your creator has defined it for you already and you hate it so much. If you dont care then just be gay and lie with another man but that doesnt make you any more married than two dudes and a horse. Christianity didnt create marriage, God did. Why are these strawman arguments so easily refuted? -
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Actually they have, it's called logic. Where is your "rational explanation" to follow your sky daddies★fnord★ wrote:
You...If no one told you that
Sky daddies? Lol sounds like youve been watching a lot of atheist shows on youtube. You are created in God's likeness thus having seemingly "logic". But if logic isnt material then its transcendent in nature. If they are merely tools of the mind then they arent contingent to your thinking thus making them absolute and unchangeable. God reveals to His creation by the spoken word, romans 1... You know these invisible attributes so your without excuse. And in context to my comment, fnord isnt responding to my questions to his presuppositions and narrow thinking. If you cant jump in and represent people correctly then please move along
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
I saw that earlier and read it several times but honestly couldn't make heads or tails of it. Could you please elaborate? Giving some examples might be helpful as well.★fnord★ wrote:
Your still failing to see both of our points. We have explained to you already that your confusing the holiness code with the moral code. I answered this above.ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
If homosexuality is such a serious transgression against God, why is it so rarely mentioned in the bible relative to other sins? 7 times in the entire bible to be exact. For comparison, the sin of hatred is mentioned 21 times, lying and false testimony 30, greed, avarice and covetousness 40, theft 42, adultery 52, murder 57, self-righteousness 79, and idolatry 169 times. ✂️More importantly, Romans 1: 26-27.
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I do love how Augy always goes to people and animals being married. Like that somehow has any standing in this sort of argument. Are you into beastiality Augustine? And why two dudes? What, women are never into animals? I'm sure I've seen a video or two going around of a chick sucking a horse off. That puts your "argument" to shame.
So two dudes and an animal can't get married. But a dude, chick and horse can? Hmm I see where you stand now.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Really, using the bible to prove god? And this is where I walk away. Next time use some actual PROOF. Wow, if god wants his sheep to spread his word and change people's mind. You'd think he would have made things a little easier.〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
★fnord★ wrote:
You...If no one told you that
fnord isnt responding to my questions to his presuppositions and narrow thinking.
Oh how I've missed our little chats Augustine. You are always so entertaining.And you say fnord is narrow thinking HA. Oh an "sky daddy" is the technical term for your "god". He/she/it created you from the sky. So he/she/it is your daddy. So.....sky daddy.
Night Augy 😘
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〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
God〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I love how a lack of byI love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry.
Man created marriage? How? And why?
You dont need proof for God. like it says in romans 1, its your nature to suppress the truth in unrighteousness. Even if God revealed to you all the creation of the universe you would still be enslaved to sinful thinking and unbelief. John chapter 6 verse 34 continues that you cant know this truth until you are drawn by the Father. You follow rules every day. I hope you do anyways. I am joint with my wife and we are married. -
★fnord★ wrote:
Have you heard of the intergenerational marriage? Yup a lot of dudes support this along with your wild eye foaming at the mouth agenda to destroy marriage. You still want "equallity"?It's very strange to me that some of you view the pro-gay and anti-gay movements to be 'sides' in a battle between two opposite competing moral positions. Far from it, the two movements have absolutely nothing in common. The anti-gay movement seeks to compel gays, by law, to conform to heterosexual norms of love and companionship. Aug said it a few pages back, they can marry the opposite sex or not at all. The pro-gay movement, on the other hand, is not trying to compel heterosexuals to change their behavior in any way. They're not asking you to like it or even respect it, just for you to allow it to not be outlawed in our supposedly free society. Get back to me when gays start doing the equivalent of might not fall on such deaf ears.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Of course I follow rules. Rules set forth by MANKIND, called laws. I don't break them and I am good citizen. I have a boyfriend and will one day be MARRIED to him. Before a judge not god.〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
God〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
🔰darkmagician🔰 wrote:
I love how a lack of byI love how a lack of support from myself and others in this post is considered bigotry.
How did man create marriage? Umm they used their minds. The same way man created al of the "gods". Except Thor...that guy is real.
I thought you would have learnt by now. You will NEVER change someone's mind by using bible versus to prove the bible is true.
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〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
Does anyone else see utter contradiction!? 👆😆 wow i dont have to say anything and you still hang yourself lol!I do love how Augy always goes to people and animals being married. Like that somehow has any standing in this sort of argument. Are you into beastiality Augustine? And why two dudes? What, women are never into animals? I'm sure I've seen a video or two going around of a chick sucking a horse off. That puts your "argument" to shame.
So two dudes and an animal can't get married. But a dude, chick and horse can? Hmm I see where you stand now.
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〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
Wait wait answer me this seeker, if you can. How do you get truth without God? And yeah i think your drunk seeker go home.☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Really, using the bible to prove god? easier.〓 S E E K E R 〓 wrote:
☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
★fnord★ wrote:
You...If no one told you that
fnord isnt responding to my questions to his presuppositions and narrow thinking.
Oh how I've missed our little chats Augustine. You are always so entertaining.And you say fnord is narrow thinking HA. Oh an "sky daddy" is the technical term for your "god". He/she/it created you from the sky. So he/she/it is your daddy. So.....sky daddy.
Night Augy 😘
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