Tattoos in the workplace.
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I believe someone should not be excluded from a job because of tattoo's. it's like back in the old days when black people were excluded from jobs because of the color of their skin. Whether your white, grey or black or every color of the rainbow (from your tattoo's) you shouldnt be discrimated against
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steam rolla wrote:
You do realize that people aren't born with tattoos, right?I believe someone should not be excluded from a job because of tattoo's. it's like back in the old days when black people were excluded from jobs because of the color of their skin. Whether your white, grey or black or every color of the rainbow (from your tattoo's) you shouldnt be discrimated against
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The simple fact is 80% of your first interview is based on how you presented yourself. I've hired people with tats because they dressed for the part, were not going to be facing customers but had a good telephone manner and were smart. I didn't hire a guy because he spent the interview making eyes at the other interviewer whilst slouching and had his shirt unbuttoned. Each employer to their own. They need to be comfortable that you can represent them the best. Do you really want to work for someone that doesn't think you're up for the job and is going to be looking over your shoulder all the time??
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Boner Jams '03 wrote:
Yes I know. And i also know its a decision to get tattoos. But it all comes down to discrimation of people with tattoo's. in an interview the person interviewing will make an assumption that the person being interviewed is "rough" person. But wherther anyone likes it or not, it is based on the color of your skin. Whether your naturaly white black or grey. Or choose to get tattoos done. It all comes down to the color of your skinsteam rolla wrote:
You do realize that people aren't born with tattoos, right?I believe someone should not be excluded from a job because of tattoo's. it's like back in the old days when black people were excluded from jobs because of the color of their skin. Whether your white, grey or black or every color of the rainbow (from your tattoo's) you shouldnt be discrimated against
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
While there can be no argument tattoos will be around forever, I doubt he majority of any generation have them. Among specific cultures this may be true, and cultural tattoos would be more likely to be accepted than 'art'. As has been said, if your art doesn't fit the business you won't get the job.Ojibwe wrote:
Tattoos are going to be around forever. Most of the people in my generation and the younger ones have them. Logic would tell us that the tatted up generation will be running things eventually and we will probably dump the stupid policies.Finlay King wrote:
Ya, it's a fashion statement. Fashions come and go. Next year it might be LEDs in your nose.☢ṩ☥ïƞȧ☥☢ wrote:
I don't see it......
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El Chubaneebre wrote:
I will be writing a research paper on this topic. I will let y'all know how it turns out when I'm done.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
While there can be no argument tattoos will be around forever, I doubt he majority of any generation have them. Among specific cultures this may be true, and cultural tattoos would be more likely to be accepted than 'art'. As has been said, if your art doesn't fit the business you won't get the job.Ojibwe wrote:
Tattoos are going to be around forever. Most of the people in my generation and the younger ones have them.Finlay King wrote:
Ya, it's a fashion statement. Fashions come and go. Next year it might be LEDs in your nose.☢ṩ☥ïƞȧ☥☢ wrote:
I don't see it......
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I'm a nursing student and school policy mandates that all tattoos be covered at all times. This can be frustrating for me because I have a calligraphy sleeve on my left arm consisting of my the names of my 4 daughters. However, there are some procedures in the hospital where I am required to roll up the sleeves on my undershirt which exposes my left arm and tats. I get more compliments on the elegance of the artwork than anything. Potential employers have even asked to see the rest of the tat because they are intrigued and have offered me a job after I take my boards. I can't speak for everyone but as a medical professional I have not had any issues with my tattoos preventing me from doing what I love
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As a business professional, I wouldn't take you as a serious. Tattoos traditionally represent a rebel life style. I believe that is still true for most.
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SeñoritaMafioso wrote:
I've never been turned down for a job. I just hate that I am seen as a second class citizen. It's not my fault that you can't understand the resemblance between racism and tattoo discrimination.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
I get that you're pissy about not getting whatever job you wanted, but this comment is disgusting and over the line. I've lost my respect for you. That might not mean much to you, but hopefully it will make you think more carefully about the stupid that comes out of your mouth. Grow up.℘ཞعϮϮყ_ცօყ wrote:
People used to think the same thing about people with black skin. Why is that any different?The exposure of tattoos are very unprofessional
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Mr. Bammer wrote:
I go to college full time (18 hours)and I work. I used to work in the coal mines!!! I have worked my ass off all of my life. My hard work ethic shouldn't be looked over by people like you because I don't fit your idea of a professional.As a business professional, I wouldn't take you as a serious. Tattoos traditionally represent a rebel life style. I believe that is still true for most.
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This thread has turned more into people bickering at each other than a debate.
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Hillbilly - I bet your tats are awesome n sexy!
I'm also pretty live and let live normally, outside of the workplace.
Would I hire this guy (in below link) as a Corporate Account Manager doing sales n marketing for Fortune 500 firms? Nope.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/adqb2q
Would I tell him the truth on why I didn't offer him the job? No, I would not.
Would I hire him as a bartender at some edgy n rocking place? Sure!
It all depends on what you want in life. Your lifelong passion to wear an Armani suit and be a top tier litigator or do you want to own your own custom guitar shop?
Do you dream of teaching first graders someday, being a judge, selling hedge funds OR is being an artist, a musician, a writer or an internet retailer more your style?
The world needs all of the above. Just be smart about the best way to make your own dream a reality.
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I work in a casino and 10 years ago the dress standard used to be collar shirt, and leather shoes. The staff were expected to be clean shaven and no visible tattoos or piercings other than ear sleepers or studs.
Now days you can get into my casino wearing thongs (flip flops for you Americans, not the underwear...though that never hurts), shorts and a t shirt. The staff are allowed to grow beards and piercings are acceptable pretty much anywhere, as long as a clear bar can be placed through facial piercings. However tattoos are still frowned upon...for most staff. The BARTENDERS however are allowed any visible tattoos they choose. But myself as a supervisor, I was reprimanded for having the very bottom of my sleeve tattoo (Asian themed) poking out less than an inch out of my shirt sleeve. As a result they told me I'd either have to buy a longer sleeve shirt for work, or wear a skin coloured bandage over it. Unimpressed. -
☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Well I hope you feel the same way about strip clubs. Maybe morbidly obese women should expect to be hired as "dancers." Or Victorias Secret Models and Playboy Bunnies.💃🔥💃SeñoritaMafioso wrote:
I've never been turned down for a job. I just hate that I am seen as a second class citizen. It's not my fault that you can't understand the resemblance between racism and tattoo discrimination.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
I get that you're pissy about not getting whatever job you wanted, but... ✂✂✂℘ཞعϮϮყ_ცօყ wrote:
People used to think the same thing about people with black skin. Why is that any different?The exposure of tattoos are very unprofessional
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Good point Saelo lol, but fat girls aren't seen as thugs or degenerates like tattooed people are. There's this whole big negative stereotype about us, and I think that's the real reason for it all.
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Tattoos are a choice you make. You can get it when ever and where ever you want. Tattoos are not professional to have all over your neck and an ink sleeve on your arm. If two people apply for a job, white guy with exposed tats and a black guy with no tats I bet you the guy with no tats gets it. No body is saying you can't have tats, just don't put them where they can be seen. That's your suppose to ask yourself, is this tattoo worth not getting that job making twice what I make now.
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℘ཞعϮϮყ_ცօყ wrote:
The two applicants should be judged by their ability to perform the job.Tattoos are a choice you make. You can get it when ever and where ever you want. Tattoos are not professional to have all over your neck and an ink sleeve on your arm. If two people apply for a job, white guy with exposed tats and a black guy with no tats I bet you the guy with no tats gets it. No body is saying you can't have tats, just don't put them where they can be seen. That's your suppose to ask yourself, is this tattoo worth not getting that job making twice what I make now.
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
At what interview have you went to where they work the applicants to see how hard they work. If someone gets hurt than they are held responsible. Appearance and resume is all you got.℘ཞعϮϮყ_ცօყ wrote:
The two applicants should be judged by their ability to perform the job.Tattoos are a choice you make. You can get it when ever and where ever you want. Tattoos are not professional to have all over your neck and an ink sleeve on your arm. If two people apply for a job, white guy with exposed tats and a black guy with no tats I bet you the guy with no tats gets it. No body is saying you can't have tats, just don't put them where they can be seen. That's your suppose to ask yourself, is this tattoo worth not getting that job making twice what I make now.
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★Λubergine★ wrote:
I am forced to cover mine where I work. I sit on top of a strip mine in the middle of nowhere with no one around. It's ridiculous.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
In many cases, tattoos can impair someone's ability to do the job.℘ཞعϮϮყ_ცօყ wrote:
The two applicants should be judged by their ability to perform the job.Tattoos are a choice you make. You can get it when ever and where ever you want. Tattoos are not professional to have all over your neck and an ink sleeve on your arm. If two people apply for a job, white guy with exposed tats and a black guy with no tats I bet you the guy with no tats gets it. No body is saying you can't have tats, just don't put them where they can be seen. That's your suppose to ask yourself, is this tattoo worth not getting that job making twice what I make now.
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℘ཞعϮϮყ_ცօყ wrote:
I have an ink sleeve but I have never been told my appearance is unprofessional. I am in the business of saving lives. After clearing an obstructed airway of a 4 hour old infant who suddenly quit breathing I highly doubt that the parents paid any notice to my tattoos at all. If we choose to judge people on appearance only then society has not made much progression. I choose to open my eyes and look deeper into peopleTattoos are a choice you make. You can get it when ever and where ever you want. Tattoos are not professional to have all over your neck and an ink sleeve on your arm. If two people apply for a job, white guy with exposed tats and a black guy with no tats I bet you the guy with no tats gets it. No body is saying you can't have tats, just don't put them where they can be seen. That's your suppose to ask yourself, is this tattoo worth not getting that job making twice what I make now.
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Sry hillbilly but I run a business that deals with customer relations. I have ink, and don't use it as a deciding factor to hire, but my dress codes are tattoos must be covered up when dealing with customers, piercings are limited to one stud per ear, and men must be clean shaven except in the goatee region, and the goatee must be kept neat. It's all about customer perceptions of the people I employ. When I first started out I had no dress codes, I learned within a year business grows faster with techs that look clean and professional. Just how it is.
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Keep in mind people, that, say like 30-40 years ago, tatoos were mostly associated with scum. Meaning that in a large percent of the cases, you had done time and were up to no good. ( no offence meant to anyone)
These days however, like stated before me, tatoos are considdered art, and the meaning of the actual tatoo is different for the one that has it, and the one that sees it.
I now have 3 tatoos, one on each arm, and one on my back. I was 24 when i got my first and thiught abiut it for many years to get it. Its addictive to get them haha.
Anyway, tatoos beeing visie or not depends on the enviroment, like said before. Its acceptable in a bar, but people tend to less accept it when you are in an office job. ( no offence)
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Ive had nothing but good jobs and im covered in them. I even know of a few cops with sleeves. Its far more acceptable now than it was 20 years ago.
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⌖🔥Ꮹ༙ᏌƝ༙Ꮋ༙ᏫᏩ༙🔥⌖ wrote:
We are making progress. There's still a way to go though.Ive had nothing but good jobs and im covered in them. I even know of a few cops with sleeves. Its far more acceptable now than it was 20 years ago.
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I don't get the skin color argument. Tattoos are something that requires a choice. When you get a tattoo, you do it knowing some people will not approve. Those people may be the ones hiring for jobs.
It's like hair. No one is going to discriminate over any natural color of hair, but show up with green stripes and your chances of being taken seriously go out the window. Same with haircuts. Few people are going to care how anyone does their hair, but take it to the extreme with a mullet or punk rocker Mohawk, and that says a lot about you, even if incorrectly.
Everyone makes choices. I have a beard, and I'm a pilot. I know without a doubt I won't get hired at a major airline with the beard. Is it discrimination? Yeah, it is. But that's just how it is. I can shave my beard, and a tattoo can be removed, or just choose to not work at a place with that kind of attitude.
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mojopilot wrote:
People choose to be members of certain religions. Does that mean that they can be discriminated against too?I don't get the skin color argument. Tattoos are something that requires a choice. When you get a tattoo, you do it knowing some people will not approve. Those people may be the ones hiring for jobs.
It's like hair. No one is going to discriminate over any natural color of hair, but show up with green stripes and your chances of being taken seriously go out the window. Same with haircuts. Few people are going to care how anyone does their hair, but take it to the extreme with a mullet or punk rocker Mohawk, and that says a lot about you, even if incorrectly.
Everyone makes choices. I have a beard, and I'm a pilot. I know without a doubt I won't get hired at a major airline with the beard. Is it discrimination? Yeah, it is. But that's just how it is.
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Now you have a more directly comparable analogy.mojopilot wrote:
People choose to be members of certain religions. Does that mean that they can be discriminated against too?I don't get the skin color argument. Tattoos are something that requires a choice. ✂ I know without a doubt I won't get hired at a major airline with the beard. Is it discrimination? Yeah, it is. But that's just how it is.
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Jack Aubrey wrote:
No, because religions aren't visible distractions.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Now you have a more directly comparable analogy.mojopilot wrote:
People choose to be members of certain religions. Does that mean that they can be discriminated against too?I don't get the skin color argument. Tattoos are something that requires a choice. ✂ I know without a doubt I won't get hired at a major airline with the beard. Is it discrimination? Yeah, it is. But that's just how it is.
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Exactly! But in some cases religion can carry with it a visual distraction. If I was hiring someone to do sales again (hope I never have to do that again)and I had an Arab woman wearing one of the full body dresses, showing only her eyes, I wouldn't hire her. I went to school with an Israelie woman who wore a head scarf (I think that's the actual name) and that would be fine with me, but she would talk about the looks she got. I'd be on with that, you can see her face.
Maybe that makes me a bad person, but that's business.
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Tweek wrote:
What about the ones that wear those big turban things? Lots of people get really nervous around them.Jack Aubrey wrote:
No, because religions aren't visible distractions.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Now you have a more directly comparable analogy.mojopilot wrote:
People choose to be members of certain religions. Does that mean that they can be discriminated against too?I don't get the skin color argument. Tattoos are something that requires a choice. ✂ I know without a doubt I won't get hired at a major airline with the beard. Is it discrimination? Yeah, it is. But that's just how it is.
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