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Most of the people commenting on this post have no clue what they are talking about. Most 1911 platforms excluding a few are single action. This means that the firearm can not be fired with the hammer in the down position. The break you feel in the hammer when you cock it half way is the half cock. The half cock is not intended to be used as a safety and it is not advised to carry it in this position. Also, the thumb safety will not engage unless the hammer is cock; this is normal. In all actuality the only way you should carry a 1911 is condition one (hammer cocked and thumb safety on). In a real life self defense situation you may not have time to draw the weapon and chamber a round or cock the hammer. The fastest and safest method is condition one. If this poses a problem for you there are many other platforms that can fill the carry role for you.
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The 1911 is a great firearm and is debatably the best combat pistol ever made (John Moses Browning was a genius) however, there are alternatives. The firearm itself is only as safe as the user. Just my 2 cents...
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ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
So the lesson here is never assume. I've shot one colt 1911 before and it was DA. I assumed (wrongly) that all 1911s were DA. I can't imagine now having to cock the hammer manually before each trigger pull... How is this still a popular design? Or am I misunderstanding how the hammer reset works on subsequent trigger pulls on an SA 1911?? Thanks for clearing that up Steve.Why do so many people think the 1911 is double action? There are a few designs based on the 1911 that are double action, but they are few and far between.
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You only cock the hammer on the first shot... The slide cycling cocks the hammer for follow up shots.
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Gray Mane wrote:
Ahh ok that makes sense, thanks.You only cock the hammer on the first shot... The slide cycling cocks the hammer for follow up shots.
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Yep, also, the 1911 platform has multiple safety devices in the different iterations of the pistol. The Colt series 70 does not have a firing pin block so it will fire if drop just right. However, the series 80, 1991, and newer all have firing pin blocks preventing them from discharging if dropped. The platform is just as safe if not safer than a Glock, S&W M&P, or Springfield XD.
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Gray Mane wrote:
What he saidMost of the people commenting on this post have no clue what they are talking about. Most 1911 platforms excluding a few are single action. This means that the firearm can not be fired with the hammer in the down position. The break you feel in the hammer when you cock it half way is the half cock. The half cock is not intended to be used as a safety and it is not advised to carry it in this position. Also, the thumb safety will not engage unless the hammer is cock; this is normal. In all actuality the only way you should carry a 1911 is condition one (hammer cocked and thumb safety on). In a real life self defense situation you may not have time to draw the weapon and chamber a round or cock the hammer. The fastest and safest method is condition one. If this poses a problem for you there are many other platforms that can fill the carry role for you.
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ℒƬ. ʗøℒʊℳℬɵ wrote:
Well the only problem with having the hammer back is
1 it can be a pain sometimes when moving around(depending on whether you carry it on your waste or
shoulder)2 some people think that it would be safer just to have the hammer down(just incase it somehow puts enough pressure on the hand safty and some how malfunctions idk)
3 There really is no difference(in performance) in having it cocked back or not except that it is a lighter trigger pull.
Those can be a few reasons why not to but it really doesn't matter which way you carry it.
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Double action is the way to go. Nearly same reaction time.
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Carolina Kid wrote:
Only if you practice with the heavier trigger pull.Double action is the way to go. Nearly same reaction time.
I got some cheap ammo and my Taurus was not always firing it on the first shot. It has a sa/da function and when I fired it da that shot never seemed to be anywhere near the others. Training can fix that, but most people aren't going to work at it that much.
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I'm left handed so disengaging the thumb safety is a little more difficult for me due to the fact that it is set up for a righty.
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I like this topic. Im looking to get my chl at some point but my .357 is probably too big. And forgive me for being kind of a gun nub since i mainly use revolvers (double action). But if i read correctly the 1911 is da? If so id say uncocked. But i would love some feedback on a good pistol i could use for carrying
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bananapie333 wrote:
Just be sure to use a semi-automatic when you test for your chl.I like this topic. Im looking to get my chl at some point but my .357 is probably too big. And forgive me for being kind of a gun nub since i mainly use revolvers (double action). But if i read correctly the 1911 is da? If so id say uncocked. But i would love some feedback on a good pistol i could use for carrying
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ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
I know that story...☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
I read a story about a little old lady that got pulled over. She had a weapon in her purse, her center console, the glove box, and I think in one other place.Anyone who carries a gun must live in fear, fuck that, that ain't freedom
When the officer asked her what she was afraid of, she responded, "Not a god damn thing."
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YOU wrote:
Sorry for the topic hijack - this is in response to bananapie.I currently carry a Smith .38 Special +P 5-shot revolver on my hip. It's one of the more comfortable concealed carry weapons I've carried. Major drawbacks are that it's only five shots and I'm not accurate from 25+ yards. But the trigger pull isn't bad and the handgun is small enough to be work comfortably while sitting, standing, etc. And if you're simply looking for an "oh shit" weapon, itll do the job.
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Thanks for the tips! Much appreciated
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ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
I'm left handed so disengaging the thumb safety is a little more difficult for me due to the fact that it is set up for a righty.
Free Mason any good gunsmith can install a ambi thumb safety for relatively cheap.
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Gray Mane wrote:
I did not know that. I'll look into that tomorrow. Thanks!ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
I'm left handed so disengaging the thumb safety is a little more difficult for me due to the fact that it is set up for a righty.
Free Mason any good gunsmith can install a ambi thumb safety for relatively cheap.
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My duty gun is a 1911 and I carry it locked back. Just remember to keep the hammer area clean. Dirt and crap get in there easy and can cause a malfunction. Q-tips work really good for cleaning.
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Sounds like you should leve it cocked with a round in the chamber... A perfect example of natural selection in action
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alfonso s wrote:
That's kind of a dick thing to say.Sounds like you should leve it cocked with a round in the chamber... A perfect example of natural selection in action
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I carry a Kimber Ultra Carry II with the hammer back and thumb safety on. That's how a 1911 is designed to be carried. I also cary a spare magazine either in my pocket or on my belt.
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alfonso s wrote:
It is a perfect example. Tyranny becomes extinct when the citizens are armed. An unarmed man is a subject, an armed man is a citizen. Democratic natural selection of polities on earth.Sounds like you should leve it cocked with a round in the chamber... A perfect example of natural selection in action
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Condition one, round chambered, thumb safety on, is the correct carry method of the 1911. The 1911 is a great pistol, and for the era (1911) was truly innovative. However there are many drawbacks when compared to modern designs. There are more steps when disassembling, reassembling. The hammer area quickly becomes dirty with lint and dust and requires almost daily cleaning. The primary reason I don't carry mine on daily basis is when drawing while concealed the hammer often snags my shirt which makes me compensate causing an akward draw. For these and other reasons I carry a Glock 26 for concealed carry.
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Don't really understand the gun thing but sort of understand why you would fight to keep that freedom but do wonder in what situations it can be used
If you were getting mugged by someone carrying a knife/gun and you pulled out the gun and shot them would you end up in prison - or is it considered self defence ??
If you saw someone else getting mugged and pulled and used your gun would you go to prison?
And Freemason, if I remember rightly you work in education so are firearms banned from schools, teachers and pupils ??
And with that recent school shooting, if that happened in your school would you find your gun and then try to find the attacker and if you did and managed to shoot him would you be up on manslaughter/murder charges ??
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ɆͣƉͩƉͩ💥🔫ᏚℍʘŦ∙∘• wrote:
Good questions Edd. The way it works in most states is there are Affirmative Defenses written into law. One is self-defense. Another is "choice of evils". So if you need to break into someones house to save an elderly woman whose house is on fire, they don't charge you with trespass or attempted burglary. Lethal force will always be scrutinized the most, for obvious reasons, but typically if it falls into an affirmative defense, you'll be ok.If you saw someone else getting mugged and pulled and used your gun would you go to prison?
The reason that's not necessarily the case with the Treyvon Martin incident in Florida is because the man currently being charged placed himself into jeopardy.
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❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
I'm with the NYPD and buddy let me tell you that's not why it was chosen...don't make up things if you don't understand the conversation🌾ᏦᎻᎪᏞ🌾 wrote:
Umm, no they can't. Look up the testing online. Triple safety system is why NYPD chose it.❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
I'm sure he has a glock or another similar plastic easy-mode handgun. I think he likes the double-action 1911 style as its new to him. Also, Glocks can be AD'd just as easily as any other firearm. Dont let their "trigger safety" fool you.Trade it for a Glock. No hammers and no accidental firing
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@ ɆͣƉͩƉͩ💥🔫ᏚℍʘŦ∙∘•
Weapons are not banned from us, we just can't have them on campus. The administrative office and superintendent have told me that I may keep my weapon in my vehicle in the parking lot because A) I'm not a student - B) The weapon is technically not in the building - C) It's my right to have a weapon. However, to keep from ending up on the news under the headline, "Teacher brings gun to school!" I simply leave my weapons at home. It's not worth the frustration and headache.
As for an attacker in our building, we have lockdown procedures that we practice just like you would a fire drill or a tornado drill. Our protocol is to lock the doors and get the students out of sight within the classroom. We have other procedures as well but that is the gist of it.
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