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☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
That's the US for ya.O U 8 1 2 wrote:
Sorry if I offend, I'm not used to a society that finds it necessary to carry a gun when they leave their house, sounds like a scary place to live☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
I had to LOL at that 😂😂😂 dumbest thin I've heard all yearAnyone who carries a gun must live in fear, fuck that, that ain't freedom
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✰MAΥHΞΜ✰ wrote:
Because I refuse to be a victim and it's my right. ✊Ʈɧḛ Ƥuɳḭʂђeŗ wrote:
That's not a valid reason in my opinion. I can do a lot of things, I choose to do what suits my life. Now why do you carry a gun?☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
I do it not out of fear but out of the fact that I can.O U 8 1 2 wrote:
Sorry if I offend, I'm not used to a society that finds it necessary to carry a gun when they leave their house, sounds like a scary place to live☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
I had to LOL at that 😂😂😂 dumbest thin I've heard all yearAnyone who carries a gun must live in fear, fuck that, that ain't freedom
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ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
She must be from Texas ✊☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
I read a story about a little old lady that got pulled over. She had a weapon in her purse, her center console, the glove box, and I think in one other place.Anyone who carries a gun must live in fear, fuck that, that ain't freedom
When the officer asked her what she was afraid of, she responded, "Not a god damn thing."
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❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
I'm in law enforcement bro. The glock can be AD'd just like any other weapon, because the vast majority of ADs are caused by the end user. Glocks only "safety" is a trigger safety, in which you can't fire the weapon unless... Get ready for this.... Your finger is on the trigger. Any gun can be ADd despite what the Internet tells you.🌾ᏦᎻᎪᏞ🌾 wrote:
Umm, no they can't. Look up the testing online. Triple safety system is why NYPD chose it.❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
I'm sure he has a glock or another similar plastic easy-mode handgun. I think he likes the double-action 1911 style as its new to him. Also, Glocks can be AD'd just as easily as any other firearm. Dont let their "trigger safety" fool you.Trade it for a Glock. No hammers and no accidental firing
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Also, I've seen Glocks, first hand, double-feed, failure to feed, and failure to fire. Granted, you rack it five times in succession and it'll fix 95% of malfunctions, but don't think the Glock is a super weapon that doesn't "accidentally fire". It's just a very well designed handgun, but it's a tool that's only as functional as the end user.
P.S. Take your silly European "guns are bulky like wallets" arguments to another thread, please stay on topic here.
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The Glock has a deadfall firing pin. The only way to discharge it is to pull the trigger. Any other pistol with one in the chamber and cocked can AD by multiple methods. The Glock is, I believe, unique in it's safety. Drop a cocked 1911 and Glock and tell me which one AD's.
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❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
That would actually be a very helpful and entertaining study. To bad I don't have the $$$'s to test it out.The Glock has a deadfall firing pin. The only way to discharge it is to pull the trigger. Any other pistol with one in the chamber and cocked can AD by multiple methods. The Glock is, I believe, unique in it's safety. Drop a cocked 1911 and Glock and tell me which one AD's.
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I carry mine cocked with the thumb safety on
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derelict wrote:
I'm exercising my right!R|CCO wrote:
You are entitled to wear a t- shirt anytime! 😳If only more law abiding citizens exercised their right to bare arms. Maybe we'd outnumber the criminals and crazies out there who want to harm those we love and hold dear.
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Another stupid question.
The 1911 is very unique compared to my other handguns so forgive my ignorance.
When I pull back on the hammer, it seems to lock into place twice. Once when it is just barely pulled back and the other when it is all the way back. Is that normal?
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Never, ever carry a 1911 with the hammer down and a round in the chamber. That goes for all single action pistols. That is the most dangerous way to carry. Amazing how many people who truly don't know, are willing to offer an opinion.
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ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
Yes that's normal.Another stupid question.
The 1911 is very unique compared to my other handguns so forgive my ignorance.
When I pull back on the hammer, it seems to lock into place twice. Once when it is just barely pulled back and the other when it is all the way back. Is that normal?
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ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
Thanks, I just found the information. It's the half-cocked position which tries to prevent unintentional hammer release or follow through caused by sear bounce. I think that this is the way I should carry it.ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
Yes that's normal.Another stupid question.
The 1911 is very unique compared to my other handguns so forgive my ignorance.
When I pull back on the hammer, it seems to lock into place twice. Once when it is just barely pulled back and the other when it is all the way back. Is that normal?
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Yes that click is normal. Guns are only dangerous in the hands of dangerous peope. Know your gun and general gun safety. Put one in the chamber, with the hammer back, engage the thumb safety. Holster the pistol. Make sure your holster is strapped properly between your hammer and firing pin. When you draw your pistol disengage thumb safety and let em sing!! You don't have time to worry about racking one in the chamber.
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I love the new Sig Sauer P938 and P238. If you haven't seen them, you should. They are perfect carry pistols. Both based off of 1911 platform. But very small. And single action, unlike the bodyguard. I have the p938 and the bodyguard. My primary is a kimber 45 pro BP 10 II. Polymer stock.
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ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
I wouldn't recommend it. That half-cocked position was never intended to be a carry safety. It is to prevent mechanical failure. It's actually not as safe as condition 1. My recommendation is find a competent firearms instructor before carrying your first SA. There are lot of advantages over DA/SA, but they have to be handled differently.ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
Thanks, I just found the information. It's the half-cocked position which tries to prevent unintentional hammer release or follow through caused by sear bounce. I think that this is the way I should carry it.ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
Yes that's normal.When I pull back on the hammer, it seems to lock into place twice. Once when it is just barely pulled back and the other when it is all the way back. Is that normal?
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∞ $ℰℰḲ€ℜ ∞ wrote:
It can get pretty crazy over here. I have to carry one at work to kill meth heads if they try to come and steal copper.☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
That's the US for ya.O U 8 1 2 wrote:
Sorry if I offend, I'm not used to a society that finds it necessary to carry a gun when they leave their house, sounds like a scary place to live☣ՏɧʀɪɲʉϮ☣₅ͣ₅ͩ₂ͩ wrote:
I had to LOL at that 😂😂😂 dumbest thin I've heard all yearAnyone who carries a gun must live in fear, fuck that, that ain't freedom
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ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
Thanks. My intention was to carry it over my much smaller .380. We own probably close to 25 to 30 weapons and this is the first one that has left me a little stumped. I'm not sure if it is normal or not but th thumb safety only works when the hammer is cocked. I have a lot to learn with this weapon.ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
I wouldn't recommend it. That half-cocked position was never intended to be a carry safety. It is to prevent mechanical failure. It's actually not as safe as condition 1. My recommendation is find a competent firearms instructor before carrying your first SA. There are lot of advantages over DA/SA, but they have to be handled differently.ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
✂ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
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Free Mason, practice firing from the holster with it uncocked and you are much better off.
Preparedness and safety first in both senses. The percentage of you needing to fire it with the hammer cocked and likely hood of the .4 seconds of manual cocking saving your life vs the chances of misfire is disproportionate.
Instead be an expert and learn to quick fire from the holster uncocked.
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❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
Once you're gun savvy you want the fancy but less popular model.ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
See... Great weapon system, huh?❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
I have a Glock 22 and my wife has a 26.Trade it for a Glock. No hammers and no accidental firing
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veo wrote:
You may want to check on your firearms technique veo. Unless you have a 1911 with a firing pin safety(rare), or with a transfer bar system (even more rare), its never advisable to carry an SA pistol with the hammer down on a loaded chamber.Free Mason, practice firing from the holster with it uncocked and you are much better off.
Preparedness and safety first in both senses. The percentage of you needing to fire it with the hammer cocked and likely hood of the .4 seconds of manual cocking saving your life vs the chances of misfire is disproportionate.
Instead be an expert and learn to quick fire from the holster uncocked.
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Keep it uncocked. It is double action so you can fire with just a slightly heavier trigger pull. If you get in a situation where you need to use your weapon, with the adrenaline in your system you aren't even going to notice that extra pull.
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Why do so many people think the 1911 is double action? There are a few designs based on the 1911 that are double action, but they are few and far between.
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ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
Maybe I'm picturing the wrong gun... Highly likely. Don't have fast Internet here. Working from memory...Why do so many people think the 1911 is double action? There are a few designs based on the 1911 that are double action, but they are few and far between.
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Jim Dirt (Add A1) wrote:
Mason, I have carried a 1911 as well as a glock. It's like carrying apples and oranges. On a 1911 uncocked is your safest bet and like Jim said, not enough extra effort is needed in a time of crisis to justify the risk of AD from keeping the hammer back 24/7Keep it uncocked. It is double action so you can fire with just a slightly heavier trigger pull. If you get in a situation where you need to use your weapon, with the adrenaline in your system you aren't even going to notice that extra pull.
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Just to be clear, when you pull the trigger on a 1911 with an uncocked hammer, nothing happens, nothing.
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ᎦᏣᏌЂДᎦᎿ६٧६ wrote:
Well either way it all boils down to this: if you are packing, it is your responsibility to carry your weapon as safely as possible. That means uncocked. No matter what weapon you are carrying. They are called accidents for a reason. Accidents with firearms can be very unpleasant.Just to be clear, when you pull the trigger on a 1911 with an uncocked hammer, nothing happens, nothing.
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DA/SA pistols are generally designed to be carried uncocked. SA pistols for the most part have been designed to be carried cocked with the safety on. They are different weapon systems and should be handled differently.
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I've never carried a 1911, but I did borrow a sig 938 and carried it a little bit. I went through the same thoughts as you. What I came up with, and this is just my own opinion, is its best to carry with the hammer down, safety off. With a little bit of practice I got to where I could cock the hammer back when drawing. It seemd to work well and makes for a reasonably safe situation and a light trigger.
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❎❎~REVENGE~❎❎ wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with you bro. But consider this: aside from the 1911, all hammerless double action pistols cannot be cocked without trigger pressure. Second, the smith M&P has the same firing pin. Third, do a quick google search for ADs and find out how many of those are caused by the user. I've actually never heard of anyone ADing without putting their finger on the trigger. Now granted, that's just anecdotal evidence - but the primer strike required from "dropping" an uncocked handgun would be such a rarity that the point is moot. If you know how to handle and carry and care for your firearm, the glock is no more safe than the 1911. In fact, I'd argue the grip safety makes it more safe considering the number of ADs that are cause by someone actually depressing the trigger.Drop a cocked 1911 and Glock and tell me which one AD's.
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