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In light of recent events, it is becoming increasingly obvious that the politics of this game (specifically between alliances) is more than I am willing to deal with. While CMS is targeting Gc3 or ECS for war, individual battles between our groups are unavoidable.
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From this point forward, CMS will not be aligned with any other group. This does not mean we are openly declaring war on any group. I feel at this time, everyone will be better served by CMS acting alone having no alliance responsibilities. Much forum drama will be avoided this way. Good luck to Gc3 and ECS. Happy Turfin'
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Sounds like the 40 ronin samurai. I was wondering if you were going to declare this anytime soon. But good decision Nate, it will cause less drama.
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Thanks JayDee. Apparently, battles between individuals of allied groups are impossible without people getting offended or upset. We hold no ill will toward either of these groups.
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Well put Nate! 🐻
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Good on you and your group Natedogg. Nice to see u step up first.
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Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
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Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
Whew!Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
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Well said Nate, ty
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Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
so instead of corraling your rogue few you just say "fuk it" we won't be allies with anyone.Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
Never mind the fact that Gc3 hasn't once started these attacks.
Plain and simple Nate, YOU'VE LOST CONTROL OF CMS.
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DoN✯DriZZy wrote:
if thats true. He hurt he hurtNatedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
so instead of corraling your rogue few you just say "fuk it" we won't be allies with anyone.Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
Never mind the fact that Gc3 hasn't once started these attacks.
Plain and simple Nate, YOU'VE LOST CONTROL OF CMS.
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Plain and simple Drizzy......keep your opinions of what you THINK you know about CMS to yourself.
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Drizz...dealing with guild members is as much a problem with CMS as it is with your own guild...don't act like GC3 is doing any better than CMS. At least Nate is willing to step up and admit the facts of the matter. Good job Nate.
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DoN✯DriZZy wrote:
I'm saddened to read this Nate. Driz has a good point here. A good leader knos It's easier to wash your hands of a situation. Rather than deal with one.Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
so instead of corraling your rogue few you just say "fuk it" we won't be allies with anyone.Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
Never mind the fact that Gc3 hasn't once started these attacks.
Plain and simple Nate, YOU'VE LOST CONTROL OF CMS.
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DoN✯DriZZy wrote:
I don't agree.Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
so instead of corraling your rogue few you just say "fuk it" we won't be allies with anyone.Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
Never mind the fact that Gc3 hasn't once started these attacks.
Plain and simple Nate, YOU'VE LOST CONTROL OF CMS.
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Night wrote:
Drizz...dealing with guild members is as much a problem with CMS as it is with your own guild...don't act like GC3 is doing any better than CMS. At least Nate is willing to step up and admit the facts of the matter. Good job Nate.
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!Davey Boy 🌇🌊🔨 wrote:
I definately don't agree.DoN✯DriZZy wrote:
I'm saddened to read this Nate. Driz has a good point here. A good leader knos It's easier to wash your hands of a situation. Rather than deal with one.Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
so instead of corraling your rogue few you just say "fuk it" we won't be allies with anyone.Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
Never mind the fact that Gc3 hasn't once started these attacks.
Plain and simple Nate, YOU'VE LOST CONTROL OF CMS.
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Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
Well put. So if your not willing to dedicate the time into a alliance then why lead one? It's easier to be a mindless follower. Why not elect a new leader? It simply seems as your members speak on behalf of you anyways and do as they please with no recourse. As brown put it. Someone with less mob can't lead someone with a bigger mob. So it looks like your a small fish in your own alliance. Maybe one day they will turn on you aswell.In light of recent events, it is becoming increasingly obvious that the politics of this game (specifically between alliances) is more than I am willing to deal with. While CMS is targeting Gc3 or ECS for war, individual battles between our groups are unavoidable.
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Davey, I have not washed my hands of anything. One of the main reasons that I created CMS was to enrich my members gameplay experience. The drama created due to group conflict is not "enriching" the experience. There just as many issues with ECS and Gc3......I'm just choosing to remove alliance pressures from my people.
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We will continue to operate the way we always have and do not intend to change.
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All three big alliances are facing the same common problems as they grow and expand. This is also not soly cms fault. There are pretty much only two options. Downsize back into a more tightknit more manageable group or do as Nate has done.
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Amazing...drizzy and davey throwing stones...the drama ALWAYS starts in the forums. Cms is not perfect by any stretch but we by far are least vocal group in the game.
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I count atleast 3 larger CMS members than you Nate simply off the top mob. Which your not even on. Better get to mobbing up before they throw a coup d'etat.
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!Davey Boy 🌇🌊🔨 wrote:
this is True. Im not saying Gc3 are saints but CMS has initited attacks on both longstanding allies ECS and GC3, and instead of holding true to the ally situation, you take the easy way out and wash ur hands of those attacks.DoN✯DriZZy wrote:
I'm saddened to read this Nate. Driz has a good point here. A good leader knos It's easier to wash your hands of a situation. Rather than deal with one.Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
so instead of corraling your rogue few you just say "fuk it" we won't be allies with anyone.Correction....... My initial post should have said "While CMS is NOT targeting Gc3 and ECS......" we are not attacking Gc3 or ECS as a crew.
Never mind the fact that Gc3 hasn't once started these attacks.
Plain and simple Nate, YOU'VE LOST CONTROL OF CMS.
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Jimmy Slice 👊🔨💀 wrote:
the fact is CMS has initited attacks on allies long before this statement. If you do in ffact have control Nate, then you don't know what the word ally is.Amazing...drizzy and davey throwing stones...the drama ALWAYS starts in the forums. Cms is not perfect by any stretch but we by far are least vocal group in the game.
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There is more to leading than holding people under your thumb. If my members turn on me then so be it. Each of the CMS members submits to the values of the group because they choose to do so and not because I make them. As we grow, different gameplay styles emerge in the group and GOOD leadership is dynamic and can evolve to fit those changes.
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Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
This is not true. Firstly we were blindsided by a "bad joke" and now whenever you don't have the time to deal with something you simply wash your hands and hold no sense of accountability on your members whatsoever. If the CMS feels as tho the ECS is not moving at a pace that they want then come out and say it.Thanks JayDee. Apparently, battles between individuals of allied groups are impossible without people getting offended or upset. We hold no ill will toward either of these groups.
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Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
well said there NateThere is more to leading than holding people under your thumb. If my members turn on me then so be it. Each of the CMS members submits to the values of the group because they choose to do so and not because I make them. As we grow, different gameplay styles emerge in the group and GOOD leadership is dynamic and can evolve to fit those changes.
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As an outsider looking in It doesn't seem as though all of CMS as a whole is initiating attacks on any one group. Seems more like Brown is playing the game as he wants without the backing of CMS. Unless I missed something that is. IMO players should be able to play the game they want alliance or not. assuming of course that their conduct does not all out violate to core values of the group they represent.
If Brown or any other member of any group wants to go solo Rambo style against a whole alliance more power to him and best of luck defeating a whole group on your own.
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Natedogg 👊🔨💀 wrote:
then all you are is a PR guy, nothing more.There is more to leading than holding people under your thumb. If my members turn on me then so be it. Each of the CMS members submits to the values of the group because they choose to do so and not because I make them. As we grow, different gameplay styles emerge in the group and GOOD leadership is dynamic and can evolve to fit those changes.
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