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243-165-789 wrote:
Oh? Native Americans had no real borders. Yet they fought continuously. Where do you get this information that groups of people did not fight other groups of people before land rights? Chimps beat the shit out of each other. You're saying there was a time where we just danced in flowers hugged after early primates but before now?✂ i ✂ ar ✂ full of shit, ✂ you spent ✂ time ✂ under water.
I ✂ think you know ✂ more about the situation than ✂ i ✂d✂o✂.
Your championing violence is ✂the✂ sh✂i✂t✂.
war was never and issue ✂ makeing claims to land ownership, invented borders and nations, we are ✂ violent by nature, we are a reasonable race run by ✂ reasonable people, people ✂ conditioned to the point where you ✂ turn to ✂ the biggest gun to protect you, no matter what the cost✂.History is your guide to the future. Read it.
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@fnord:
Arab states that are deemed a threat to peace should be occupied where possible.
My vision involves a frightening destruction, Mano Dura so to speak, toward any outward expression of hatred for the occupiers under very specific parameters. These parameters would be specific, but great power should be given to the enforcers.
In El Salvador, it was "See a gang tattoo, execute."
Of course the US did not tolerate this, and they were forced to end the program or risk losing aide.
Meanwhile, one generation of young Arabs will be taught a liberal curriculum, and will achieve autonomy as soon as the threat of ignorance is gone. 50 years at the most.
Will it work? History says yes. It has worked several times, and here we are now, unwilling to make it happen, lest people suffer. But they ARE suffering, the ignorant, hate-filled bastages.
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This is exactly what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. We did it in Germany, Japan, America...
Invade. Kill opposition. Teach kids modern political theory. Wait for the old bronze-agers to die out.
People are not the problem. It's the ideology that must be fought. This is how it is done.
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Look at what Spain did to Latin America. Invade. Kill. Destroy culture. Make babies. Speak Spanish, bitch.
At first glance, that seems bad.
But think for a moment. Is a culture that practices human blood sacrifice really worth preserving?
Yeah, they replaced it with Catholicism. Whaturyagunnado? But when humans break free of that ignorance, we'll have to drag slower cultures along forcefully yet again. It's how modern culture progresses.
If we let cultures languish in the past, we end up with a billion people that think Mohammed was the shit, and we need to be killing the Jews.
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I thought all people's of the world were granted certain rights, under the US constitution. That's what you were arguing the other week, Brown.
I guess you meant only when it suits you? -
[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
How many times do I have to smash this into your skulls?I thought all people's of the world were granted certain rights, under the US constitution. That's what you were arguing the other week, Brown.
I guess you meant only when it suits you?Governments do not grant rights.
And... The fact that our government may not violate the established human rights of a person just because they aren't a US Citizen has nothing to do with the way Israel operates in wartime.
But hey, let's have Israel apply the Geneva Convention here. Oh, wait. A combatant without a uniform doesn't apply. Oops.
I know this is advanced stuff, this 17th century western philosophy... But you are new and modern, so it should be easy to figure out.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Look at what Spain did to Latin America. Invade. Kill. Destroy culture. Make babies. Speak Spanish, bitch.
At first glance, that seems bad.
But think for a moment. Is a culture that practices human blood sacrifice really worth preserving?
Yeah, they replaced it with Catholicism. Whaturyagunnado? But when humans break free of that ignorance, we'll have to drag slower cultures along forcefully yet again. It's how modern culture progresses.
If we let cultures languish in the past, we end up with a billion people that think Mohammed was the shit, and we need to be killing the Jews.
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So destruction and killing is ok so long as its to bring cultures other than yours inline with what YOU deem to be the 'right' way... Ookayyy
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@Brown:
Damn, that's some cynical shit. Sounds really really really expensive too. In blood and treasure. I'm not sure any threat warrants that kind of misadventure. We've faced much bigger threats in our history without totally losing our shit like we have in the last decade or so. It may not seem like it, but it's a fact that the world trends toward becoming a more peaceful place with every generation. Calm down and have a little patience. The only lasting change is that which happens organically and from within. Give the Islamic world something to rally for rather than something to rally against. -
★fnord★ wrote:
Oh, they will rebel, and grow. You just have to behead the caliphate to speed them along. :)@Brown:
Damn, that's some cynical shit. Sounds really really really expensive too. In blood and treasure. I'm not sure any threat warrants that kind of misadventure. We've faced much bigger threats in our history without totally losing our shit like we have in the last decade or so. It may not seem like it, but it's a fact that the world trends toward becoming a more peaceful place with every generation. Calm down and have a little patience. The only lasting change is that which happens organically and from within. Give the Islamic world something to rally for rather than something to rally against. -
Hey, Paws.
So a culture that mass sacrifices innocent humans to a floating heart-bird god is valuable to you? I'd kill that bitch with fire, and that's exactly what the Spanish did.
It's not that it's different from our culture. It's that it's against modern concepts of prosperity. The current standard for prosperity and freedom does not allow for the subjugation of women and the killing of homosexuals.
Human culture evolves globally through education, example, and, if necessary, enforcement. It has always been that way.
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I have never understood what Israel had against some smashed up chick peas.
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Tom Servo👊🔨💀 wrote:
Mmmmmmm.. Smashed up chicks with olive oil. I could murder me some Hamas.I have never understood what Israel had against some smashed up chick peas.
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I will say. Iron Dome is freakin' awesome.
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Yeah, ok, the Spanish did Central America for the good of humanity, not land and resources.
Also, to become 'civilized' its law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, might is right route.
Break out the eugenics, lads, its civilisation time, BrownNazi style! -
ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Just remember! Israel has the atomic bomb that the U.S. gave them back in the WWII era! No B.S.! If Egypt can't make a peace treaty to end the next war in the making, Pakistan will b a glass parking lot! Remember! Heat + sand= glass!!!! So that means there will b a lot of vacation property in the Middle East! Lol!!! I pray they drop the bomb on them sand niggers! By the way, I just served 37 months, 3 days, & 28 mins in the hell hole part of the world! FUCK THEM ALL! People think they have it bad here in the US! They wouldn't last 24 hours there!!! Lol!!!!Why are people pissed at Israel? If Hamas kept shooting rockets at my house, I'd turn Gaza into a Walmart with a big ass parking lot!
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ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Why are people pissed at Israel? If Hamas kept shooting rockets at my house, I'd turn Gaza into a Walmart with a big ass parking lot!
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Nuke the fucks!! Israel got the atomic bomb from us back in ww2! Use it Israel! Drop that bomb and have a brisk party on ObombA!!!! Lol!!! Fuck them all!!!!
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Way to get a thread modded, numb nuts.
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Why is it you find it do hard to look outside your own borders for information, its just another example of your short sightedness.
If by your logic we are programmed to kill and hurt each other how come we are still her as a race? Survival of the fittest, has it not occurred to you that trade, exchange, love and exploration play bigger factors in evolution than smashing heads and blowing up people?Just danced and hugged? Really, i diddnt say that, that is a stupid thing to say, childish but typical of your flippant arrogance and dismissal of that what you know very little about.
History is my guide to the future, to a point your right but I suggest you take your own advice and look into other cultures history, middle easten, European and chinease to start, the best way to get an understanding is to take an overview of all the available information not just that which says what you want to hear.
And to stay on topic,
Www.islamic-relief.org.uk, working to get aid to gaza, donate or just read up.
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There's always 1 that has to ruin it. I was enjoying the back and forth in here. Shame really.
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Gaza needs relief why? Is is someone launching attacks over the boarder so they shut it down? Stop giving them a reason to close the boarder and food will flow. This is logical isn't it?
Also as to gaza just anex it like the US did Hawaii. Teach freedom and show there is a better way and good can come from conflict in the end but leave the wound open and it will fester. The strong will prevail this is not mans rule it's natures rule. It's those minority in Islam that pervert the teachings that will loose but by negotiating like they are now gives false hope to keep the fight going and reason to fight for the radicals. Radicals don't understand diplomacy it's a sign of weakness to them they fear strength and direct action, it's the curency they deal in.
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(from experence a long way out side the "green zone") carry a weapon and we will shoot you period, very little resistance and huge steps forward. Kids in school and women and men walking through town doing there thing in peace, people in a towns or province villages don't need guns, our allies who believe in the right to bear arms allow it if slung and the rate of insodences jumps. You are giving them room to maneuver and thus fight you. Show them the stick and the carot, black and white no grey.
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Nice discussion back and forth indeed...
Following this thread with interest tbh...
So civilised for tw gd without any namecalling...
Of course, there is always people that didnt leave the neander era to spew some random idiotic shiz.... -
[Add:Baz]Boffer wrote:
Land and resources was the goal. But the culture was abhorrent to them. They tore down pyramids and used the stones to build churches. They assimilated the people with force. In the end, Latin America advanced. Rome did it. England did it. The US does it.Yeah, ok, the Spanish did Central America for the good of humanity, not land and resources.
Also, to become 'civilized' its law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, might is right route.
Break out the eugenics, lads, its civilisation time, BrownNazi style!Would you rather a long, bloody occupation, devastating war, and in the end, Aztecs are still throwing gutted babies down an airport stairway?
Nobody mentioned eugenics, but I have to wonder... Do we play God when we select a mate? Nature is at odds with human morality. We should understand that conflict intimately, before we destroy ourselves.
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Midgard wrote:
Why can't you get information outside your own borders?!(from experence a long way out side the "green zone") carry a weapon and we will shoot you period, very little resistance and huge steps forward. Kids in school and women and men walking through town doing there thing in peace, people in a towns or province villages don't need guns, our allies who believe in the right to bear arms allow it if slung and the rate of insodences jumps. You are giving them room to maneuver and thus fight you. Show them the stick and the carot, black and white no grey.
Oh, wait...
Great posts, thanks!
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Hahaha brown, you got your shit twisted bro. You're trying to defend Isreal from Isreal's standpoint. Why don't you tell us why the U.S has been their crutch? Why don't you tell us why Britain made a deal with a terrorist orginization of zionist jews to form a terrorist state with force in another country. Why did britain's support drop off the map? Why does a christian nation have interest in that of the jews nation? Hidden agenda's? Why did no one care when the germans were trying to exterminate the jews.
Here's the answer. It's all bullshit, corporate interests, hidden agendas, corrupt governments, blahblahblah. I don't play games, I look for logical solutions. When the rest of the world prioritizes human life above such bullshit, then the answer will be clear. -
But no, this bullshit is way too entertaining! Which is all it is, entertainment to those morally bankrupt parties who have "created" this war, for their own profit. Let's call the spade a spade, and in this case, I call it senseless loss of human life. I don't give a fuck about politics, I apply science, humanitarism, and logic to my reasoning. You have some personal ties to this dispute, and that has clouded your logic.
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I absolutely agree.
Now it's time to end the artificial conflict.
How would you do that?
Personally, I'd let them fight it out. And then I'd help make it quick.
Israel:Advanced
Islam:Barbaric
That's all it is.
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As for why "no one cared" when the Jews were being exterminated...
I'll just let that one go. You're drunk and don't know what you are saying.
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Hey Brownie,
Just wanted to say that I really don't like your postions.
They scare me and they are wrong in every way.I am sorry that i cant discuss that with you because my english is not good enough to show you my point of view...sad but true.
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