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Ʈℍㅌ ʘㄕㅌℝ₳₮ミℝ wrote:
I read pretty much the exact same thing.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Uhhh... That's not what I read, anyone else?Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
So you just keep blatantly insulting an repeating the same things until someone gets sick of you and leaves? That's a win? Good jobMission accomplished. Under 10 hours, not bad.
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Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Thanks for your support, Jeffy Boy! Here, have a healthy snack.... 🐮🍔DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Exactly. Why can't there be picking and choosing and less labeling?Malthus wrote:
Typical republican idiot. Assume that someone must float on one extreme or the other and it becomes wrong to live somewhere in betweenJeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
That's called capitalism. If your unhappy with that, burn your idevice, and live in the dark ages. Or north Korea.I'm with chicken on this one. And belial. Charging 1200 dollars for computer sOftware is ridiculous
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Malthus wrote:
I wasn't supporting you, I was supporting ßelialJeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Thanks for your support, Jeffy Boy! Here, have a healthy snack.... 🐮🍔DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Exactly. Why can't there be picking and choosing and less labeling?Malthus wrote:
Typical republican idiot. Assume that someone must float on one extreme or the other and it becomes wrong to live somewhere in betweenJeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
That's called capitalism. If your unhappy with that, burn your idevice, and live in the dark ages. Or north Korea.I'm with chicken on this one. And belial. Charging 1200 dollars for computer sOftware is ridiculous
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All I see in this thread is alot of ill informed members striking out against a group they do not
Understand, you trust your media channels far too much. but also to the ones claiming to
Be from anonymous, I doubt your claims, i bet you have never even seen a RAT let alone used one, Ah you know what I can write out a whole load of procedures, but it would be pointless because I bet theirs nothing but script kiddies here. Real anonymous would remain anonymous, and to everyone else look up hackbloc read their news letters and learn the truth. And before I am accused I am NOT in any organisation. -
If you look on anonymous' wiki page, commander x. The supposed leader insists that anyone who wants who wants too join anonymous can do so, all the have too do is show loyalty and be willing too get involved in discussion, 4chan still supports them, and did you know the supposed leader is a gardener and a homeless man was arrested on suspicions of being anonymous 😂
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FussyJosh wrote:
Wikipedia is full of lies!! Anon "members" would never do any of those things! We are all misinformed troglodytes!If you look on anonymous' wiki page, commander x. The supposed leader insists that anyone who wants who wants too join anonymous can do so, all the have too do is show loyalty and be willing too get involved in discussion, 4chan still supports them, and did you know the supposed leader is a gardener and a homeless man was arrested on suspicions of being anonymous 😂
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FussyJosh wrote:
If you look on anonymous' wiki page, commander x. The supposed leader insists that anyone who wants who wants too join anonymous can do so, all the have too do is show loyalty and be willing too get involved in discussion, 4chan still supports them, and did you know the supposed leader is a gardener and a homeless man was arrested on suspicions of being anonymous 😂
They got homeless Jeff? Who will lead anon now?
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Its on their facebook page you tit
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FussyJosh wrote:
Are you on drugs? Cause you referencing Facebook like its Wikipedia.Its on their facebook page you tit
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I need to buy some color wonder paper so I don't stain my carpet when I'm colorin.
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Aubergine wrote:
Wrong. Their profit margin is way high. Cost to develop cs is like 5% of the market price.DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
But they don't charge what they can, they charge what an economist tells them. They charge the price that will give them a marginal revenue = marginal cost. If they charged ANYTHING different, they would be less than optimal.Aubergine wrote:
Wrong. Adobe charges what theu charge because they canDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Adobe charges what they do for a very valid reason. It's what they have to charge.Malthus wrote:
We can accept some forms of capitalism and call others ridiculous. Software costs almost notij to develop. There's no reason for such a high cost just to edit photos -
Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
To the typical republican there's only the two extremes. Either you agree with everything they say or you must be a communist. This is how they maintain their circle of controlDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Exactly. Why can't there be picking and choosing and less labeling?Malthus wrote:
Typical republican idiot. Assume that someone must float on one extreme or the other and it becomes wrong to live somewhere in betweenJeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
That's called capitalism. If your unhappy with that, burn your idevice, and live in the dark ages. Or north Korea.I'm with chicken on this one. And belial. Charging 1200 dollars for computer sOftware is ridiculous
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warmachine6667 wrote:
LolFussyJosh wrote:
If you look on anonymous' wiki page, commander x. The supposed leader insists that anyone who wants who wants too join anonymous can do so, all the have too do is show loyalty and be willing too get involved in discussion, 4chan still supports them, and did you know the supposed leader is a gardener and a homeless man was arrested on suspicions of being anonymous 😂
They got homeless Jeff? Who will lead anon now?
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote: Wrong. Their profit margin is way high. Cost to develop cs is like 5% of the market price.
i run a company and you have to factor in overheads. there are a lot of staff and other items that support development.
then there is also the fact that this isn't some hobbyist software.
you probably know how to use maybe 5% of it and aren't seeing the value in it cause you don't need those features.full version of adobe elements(photoshop lite) is only $100
photoshop CS5 is $700
Creative suite is $1500
master suite is $2500i use master suite. it comes with all the adobe programs.(close to 10 apps if not more)
and my employee who uses it produces a minimum of 5K per month with that and his 17" macbook. -
All I know is I need minimum vs to do what I do and it's way overpriced.
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Cs. Not bs. This is all bs.
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Belial,
I must be a republican, but wait, I'm not even American. So I must be a Tory (the closest uk equivalent), nope. Wrong.
Photoshop is too expensive and is not worth it's cost. That's why it's so widely used by professionals. So your wrong on that too.
Let's cut to the chase. You can't afford what you want. Boo hoo. All you've been doing is whining on the forums for ages.
Brens are unfair, you can't afford it.
TWars is unfair, you can't afford it.
Photoshop is a rip off, you can't afford it.
Stop it now, you sound like a spoiled child. -
Photoshop is expensive because it's the only software that does why it does and it's absolutely necarily for all facets of photography. Therefore if someone wants to be into photography at any level even with a point and shoot they have no choice. So adobe makes a killing.
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And master suite isn't something I want. It's something I need. I produce raw files. That means they need to be processed. But I can't do that without cs
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Get elements then. Or get a hobby you can afford, instead if whining on about it.
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Malthus wrote:
Elements doesn't do anything. Wasted software.Get elements then. Or get a hobby you can afford, instead if whining on about it.
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
master suite, includes after effects and premiere and illustrator.And master suite isn't something I want. It's something I need. I produce raw files. That means they need to be processed. But I can't do that without cs
all things a photographer doesn't need.so let me get this straight.
you want to produce photography that is comparable with what professionals do.
but you don't wanna pay for it. well by your logic we shouldn't even have professional photographers and no one should spend time developing anything.
cause hey we can just let hobbyists do it for free it will look the same and they didn't have to do anything.adobe produces software for professionals in the graphic industry, they don't make photoshop for hobbyists.
as is stated before, there are tons of other software out there for that.
but guess what they aren't nearly as good, cause they didn't spend nearly as much developing it. -
Just pirate it
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I have lightroom. But it does less than 1/10th of a % of what a photographer needs. It's also worthless software.
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Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
That's what this argument is about. How anonymous stands up to those that would end our right to getting these essential softwares without giving everything we have to a corporationJust pirate it
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Trοϱϱψ 🙎👊 wrote:
Photoshop is an absolute necessity for even a hobbyist to produce useable results. Elements is worthless software that doesn't actually do anythingDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
And master suite isn't something I want. It's something I need. I produce
so let me get this straight.
you want to produce photography that is comparable with what professionals do.
but you don't wanna pay for it. well by your logic we shouldn't even have professional photographers and no one should spend time developing anything.
cause hey we can just let hobbyists
but guess what they aren't nearly as good, cause they didn't spend nearly as much developing it. -
DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
You just answered the question. Simple business - supply and demand. If you have a premium product you demand a premium price. If you have a niche product you demand a premium price. Why doesn't make sense? That's what business is. And as troggy said, your estimates on developerment is very far-fetched, it takes a team months of R&D to produce a final product at the level of technical ability Adobe offers.Photoshop is expensive because it's the only software that does why it does and it's absolutely necarily for all facets of photography. Therefore if someone wants to be into photography at any level even with a point and shoot they have no choice. So adobe makes a killing.
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Vadan™ v2.0 wrote:
I didn't say it didn't make sense. I simply said it wasn't ethical IMO. When something is absolutely necessary for every hobbyist to use the price shouldn't be ridiculousDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
You just answered the question. Simple business - supply and demand. If you have a premium product you demand a premium price. If you have a niche product you demand a premium price. Why doesn't make sense? That's what business is. And as troggy said, your estimates on developerment is very far-fetched, it takes a team months of R&D to produce a final product at the level of technical ability Adobe offers.Photoshop is expensive because it's the only software that does why it does and it's absolutely necarily for all facets of photography. Therefore if someone wants to be into photography at any level even with a point and shoot they have no choice. So adobe makes a killing.
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DRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Yeah that makes sense.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
That's what this argument is about. How anonymous stands up to those that would end our right to getting these essential softwares without giving everything we have to a corporationJust pirate it
I want to take up motorcycling again, but at the moment I have other financial priorities. Tell you what, I'll steal me a bike... -
Malthus wrote:
That's a bit different as there are cheap bikes you can find that'll do everything you need. That's not true in photographyDRAMABOT 5000 wrote:
Yeah that makes sense.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
That's what this argument is about. How anonymous stands up to those that would end our right to getting these essential softwares without giving everything we have to a corporationJust pirate it
I want to take up motorcycling again, but at the moment I have other financial priorities. Tell you what, I'll steal me a bike...
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