Did Hank himself lie to me himself? Is he deceased?
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That's not at all correct. I asked him why he thought a family member would contact him seeing as he didn't really know this person, Big Hank, well enough to even know his real name. He's response to that was, first, that it wasn't a family member. So I asked him why he said it was a family member if it wasn't. Then followed him trying to explain that one away. Then later he said, as if to imply that it was all irrelevant anyway, because he did know his real name. He didn't say he thought he knew his real name but was wrong, he said he did know it. But even if I concede that point, which I'm willing to do, it doesn't explain why he's core, basic, original story was completely changed to suit people's skepticism.
That's why I don't believe him. It's not the exact details of his story, it's that he keeps changing it when challenged. If he really tried to message Big Hank and someone answered then why did he say it was a family member contacting him? Those two versions don't match up in any way.
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So unless you're saying that Big Hank is Mark Van Doren and that he is dead what exactly did Nelli say here that is true?
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Widowmaker wrote:
If there is anything I missed, feel free to add but pls explain thoroughly b/c so far your questions are pretty idiotic.
Questioning whether or not a grieving family member would take the time to contact a random internet dude that their late husband, father or son chatted with occasionally is stupid? Oh, that's right, he changed that story later. Because he's such an honest guy.
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What a hanker.
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My take on this: Hank got busted for spoofing. He lives in Texas so he seen the news of the border patrol agent.
Timing is everything and he decided to use the agent as a way out.
It's clear Hank and Van Doren are two different people.
It was a pretty shit move on Hanks part, IMO.
As far as Nelli is concerned, I'd like to believe hecwas an unwilling participant in all this and duped by Hank, which is another shit move.
Hank should man up and come clean on here. He would regain a lot of respect if he did. And the same goes for Nelli if he indeed had a hand in the shenanigans.
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The devil wrote:
listen, you're the onky one who isn't following. Nelli got a pm saying hank was deceased. Then, Nelli started doing some diggin around and couldn't find anything for Hank Cunningham as thats the name he told us here. Nelli askd whoever had pm'd him about why no info, and nelli was told hank cunningham was an alias and big hank was really mark van doren. After more research, we have concluded that none of this is adding up. Forget any of the misconceptions you think about Nelli staging this or lying, look at the facts. YOU are the only one who IS not comprehending english here. Just leave it alone nixon, seriously.So unless you're saying that Big Hank is Mark Van Doren and that he is dead what exactly did Nelli say here that is true?
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I was texting back and forth with Nelli yesterday and we were trying to figure out why Hank reset. Nelli was thinking he got busted for spoofing his GPS.
during this exchange of texting Nelli said he just heard Hank was killed in the line of duty so Im googling it and we were both confused as to the name.It seems Nelli was mislead and thus posted that Hank was dead when he wasnt dead.
Bottom line is that it looks as though someone tricked Nelli into announcing Hanks death.
Nelli wasnt lying but was just duped
Very uncool to do that to a brotha -
It seems like u missed the point in this thread. He posted here b/c of the msg he received AFTER trying to get in touch with him. Him, as well as I'm sure many others would give news to what they were told immediately. After letting this information soak in, he then posted this thread raising the question of his death. He then went on to explain all the details that was given to him. I did not read one time where he said a family member contacted him. Pls post his quote here b/c I can't find it.
And the part about why he said he knew his real name, key word "did" know his reL name. In other words, at the time he "did". Which is the name Hank told him. U r being too pick on words and too quick to jump to conclusion on him being a liar. U even asked the same question twice about why he said he knew his real name when he gave u a good answer the first time. U r just giving this dude a hard time or taking what u think in your own way. I don't see anyone else raising these questions. -
Post where he said a family member contacted him.
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Nixon, you need to think outside the box bro. You have tunnel vision and its making you look bad.
Splash some water on your face and stay away from the weed for a little bit.
THEN go back through and re-read the entire thread, paying special attention to famouz's drawing.
Nixon, YOU are...the weak link. Try again.
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The devil wrote:
And how is this stupid to question? An accusation of a person we know was made and that accusation was death. Y not question that? He changed his story on that?? After looking at all the facts and thinking about it. The only thing I see he could have done differently was to think about all those things first before posting info of his apparent death.Widowmaker wrote:
If there is anything I missed, feel free to add but pls explain thoroughly b/c so far your questions are pretty idiotic.
Questioning whether or not a grieving family member would take the time to contact a random internet dude that their late husband, father or son chatted with occasionally is stupid? Oh, that's right, he changed that story later. Because he's such an honest guy.
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Widowmaker wrote:
It's actually the first statement of the RIP Big Hank thread...you'll find it on page 2.Post where he said a family member contacted him.
As for me, I haven't seen enough evidence that would support a conclusion for either arguement.
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Wait...the armed forces are allowed to carry their personal gadgets on a daily basis?
I know Schulzie is only allowed to play on the weekends but then again that's Australia.
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DoN✯DriZZy wrote:
My thoughts exactly. Ty drizzy and page for better explaining this. Oh, and if there is an accusation of Nelli helping Hank stage this??? ROFLMAO. Apparently u don't know shit about the past. Get your shit straight. There are SO MANY PPL that misinterpret things on these forums and then chime in with their unrelated comments. It's pothetic really....Nixon, you need to think outside the box bro. You have tunnel vision and its making you look bad.
Splash some water on your face and stay away from the weed for a little bit.
THEN go back through and re-read the entire thread, paying special attention to famouz's drawing.
Nixon, YOU are...the weak link. Try again.
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N130 wrote:
yes actually. Just limited to when its acceptable to use them.Wait...the armed forces are allowed to carry their personal gadgets on a daily basis?
I know Schulzie is only allowed to play on the weekends but then again that's Australia.
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~Matt~ wrote:
Got it. I was wondering where that came from. So just as I stated b4, if Nelli did anything wrong, it was making a post a little too early before letting it soak in. Many of us do that all the time. I can see where u can gave a simple mind at this and think Nelli was BSing but really think about it, they were never really good friends to begin with, we had it out in war a while back and then became allies once CMS helped us sew the womb with Hank. He has no reason to BS about this or cover up anything with Hank. Hell, to tell u the truth, he was the first person that brought up the fact that he got banned for gps spoofing.Widowmaker wrote:
It's actually the first statement of the RIP Big Hank thread...you'll find it on page 2.Post where he said a family member contacted him.
As for me, I haven't seen enough evidence that would support a conclusion for either arguement.
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He was confirmed this after Nick msged him asking if his death was true or was it due to his recent ban. THIS is when Nelli sarted to really question things and knew he might have been duped. And that's when he made his 2nd post. Doubting what he first beleived in. You can all beleive what u want b/c really all this is just hear-say. The only ppl that know for sure is the ones that know Nelli and this is all we can do in his defense. Beleive it or not, I'm done explaining.
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I don't believe that Nelli was or is part of any conspiracy to lie to everyone here. I also think many of us would have done what exactly what he did if we received such news.
Putting myself in Nelli's shoes...if for instance, I received a random Palringo message from Belial's account stating that Belial had passed away from an intra-axial hemorrhage he suffered in the mosh pit at a Slip Knot concert the night before...I would likely post the news here first, before even considering the implications of the situation.
It was purely an emotional reaction. I probably would have taken a more tentative, questioning approach & let the facts & news develop...more like, I think he passed away instead of RIP.
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Nelli can speak for himself. All I did at first was ask him to clarify a minor point. He's the one who started changing his story after that. You both can defend him till you're blue in the face. Nothing you guys have said has impressed me at all.
What I know, beyond conjecture, is that Nelli told us Big Hank was dead and that he was told he was Van Doren. None of that has really panned out. Who knows if he was even told that seeing as he has a couple different stories about it. Unlike you are me I'm not personally attacking him and don't care if he lied or was just spreading some bullshit he heard somewhere. Either way he was throwing people into a tizzy over something that is clearly untrue, unrepentantly, and then continued to do so.
So defend that all you want.
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Yesterday I brought up the fact that in every article I read (and I read a lot) there was no mention of his wife. Just recently in the woman laws thread he asked for advice on how to make up with his wife after an arguement. My husband even pm'd about it. So I thought that was odd.
I do feel bad for Mark F. Van Buren, because that man did die. It sounds like most likely though that was not Hank.
I did send Hank a message on Palringo yesterday, asking if he could (hopefully) refute the rumors. I have not received any response.
I also sent Nick a message via feedback asking him if there was a way to confirm Hank's death. I haven't recieved a response.
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Does anyone know if Hank has kids or their ages? No one has considered the possibilty that his kid or even a visiting relative could have done all this as a prank?
To me the most impotant issue is whether Hank is alive or not, not whether Nelli lied about it or not. Shouldn't you save those accusations until after there is verification of Hank's life or death?
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*oops, that should say Mark F. Van Doren!
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I don't get the people who were like no matter what he had "honor" in the game. WTF? If he's gone then yes...but using someone elses death as a scapegoat and faking your own does nor have any "honor" If he did that this guy us a huge piece of shit. And I doubt anything about being retired military is true if he faked his death...a real service man- hell a real man- would never take the
loss of another and shadow it with such douchebaggery. If he's alive I'd be pretty tempted to kick his ass for that being that I'm also in the military and that shit isn't cool...as backwards as it sounds I hope he is dead because otherwise this is horrible
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